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I was dissapointed that 'Lost in Translation' didn't win.

There are many movies, ack! - I mean films, that I think are more deserving.

I don't agree with that, personally. Lost in Translation was very good, but ROTK was in a class of its own. Proper epic story, brilliantly told.

Jackson was basically getting the award for the trilogy and I for one don't begrudge him it one bit. It would have been so easy to fuck it up, but he did an excellent job.

I hope it cleans up at the oscars.

I wanted to go, but couldn't. My Valentine's Day date went and I'm sure she prefers Bill Murray to me.

He wasn't there. Scarlett Johansson was though.

Gutted.

I was dissapointed that LoTR won though.

Which movie do you think was more deserving?

The Young Ones is still ace, man. The Young Ones hasn't changed. It's YOU.

Granted I'm older, but I was still very shocked at quite how bad I found it coming back to it. There's plenty of other stuff I liked when I was younger that I still find very appealing. I was just very disappointed with The Young Ones. Anyhow I'm going to rent the second series next, and see what I make of that.

I didn't announce my departure to the audience

You should have done, in super theatrical fashion. You'd have provided the poor bastards with at least a little entertainment for their money.

I saw it before LOTR came out, and I'm not even a fan of said movies, so I (thankfully) don't have to deal with such related nonsense

I saw it fifteen years ago, when it came out. So boo-ya

It's always interesting to see where big directors started off though, imo, even if you don't like their new stuff. Fascinating to observe the progression.

The second series was much funnier with totally irreverant episodes and is absolutely so much better when watched today

Exactly what I was looking for, thanks very much. Have added it to my queue.

Cheers.

Apart from that awful time machine millenium special.

I love the first series too (written by Atkinson himself) although it's a very different animal to the later ones.

Don't think I saw the special. I've seen all four series, and nothing else. The last one is my fave, then the first I reckon. I'm hoping it's timeless, although I've not seen it in a good while.

How could it not be though, with Atkinson and Robinson together? The dialogue between the two is just pure class.

I hope.

Because it just broke all the rules.  It as genuinely outrageous.  We could not believe what we were watching.  All that stuff has been done better since and worse (Bottom).

Fair enough, that makes sense. Still feel a bit gutted about it though, although more than 20 years later I guess my expectations were a little high.

Oh well, about to wean her onto Blackadder. I know I'm not going to be disappointed with that one

Young Ones was very much 'of it's time'. It was astonishing when it was first shown.

Why though? Not being facetious, really want to know. I honestly remember loving it, but coming back to it now it just seems painful. Cringeworthy, even.

Why was it so well received when it first aired?

Oh dear.

Really short of ideas now, clearly.

No, you're wrong.

When did you last watch it?

Gutted.

I remember loving it when I was younger. Just watched the first series, and it's absolute pants. I was especially disappointed after having raved about it to my wife, who was expecting big things. I honestly can't believe how poor it is. There's probably half a dozen decent gags in the whole first series, if that.

Are the later ones any better than the first? I absolutely loved it back in the day.

Bad Taste would be rubbish without the silliness though.

True. It really is very silly indeed though. Interesting purely 'cos it's Jackson's first feature, if I'm honest.

(or I could just watch Bad Taste again )

Blimey - there's a coincidence! Just watched it again last night. What a very silly thing it is. I especially like the simian aliens with knees, elbows and arse hanging out.

Top, if very silly.

Bad Taste - Jackson's directorial debut. Very silly, very gory alien invasion flick.

The Cooler - William H Macy is the world's worst gambler, employed by a vegas casino to spread his bad luck around the tables. Half love story, half a look at the dark underbelly of vegas. Horrifically violent in places, but still manages to give you that nice warm fuzzy feeling every now and then. A much more realistic portrayal of life in Vegas than we're normally afforded. Well worth a look.

Fargo - pure class from the coens.

That you can think anything of Die Hard 3 other than that of it's brilliance is truly astounding.

It's fucking shit. Hackneyed old pile of pants.

With Willis saying he's on-board for Die Hard 4, are you happy that another installment of a great franchise is coming, or sad that Hollywood is milking yet another franchise beyind it's "best before" date.

Rubbish idea. Die Hard was ace, 2 was ok, and three was just plain pap.

Alien? Same thing.

Terminator? Same thing.

Lethal Weapon? Ditto.

Scraping the bottom of the barrel. Quite sad, really.

What other movies have they made?

Blood Simple, Raising Arizona, Miller's Crossing, Barton Fink, Hudsucker, Fargo, Lebowski, O Brother Where Art Thou, The Man Who Wasn't There, Intolerable Cruelty.

In that order.

All essential viewing, although Bloody Simple is a bit raw for some tastes. Barton Fink is probably the weakest of the lot. For me their big strength is that they don't really conform to usual stereotypes. Their movies just don't fit into the nice neat pigeon holes that Hollywood is used to.

Miller's Crossing is one of the great movies of our times. If a Hollywood bigshot had made it rather than a couple of relative unkowns it would have swept the board at the Oscars. Very differerent to Lebowski though - proper dark gangster film/love story (ish). Essential viewing.

Their remake of The Ladykillers is due out in a couple of months, too.

Is it really better than 'Miller's Crossing'?

Nope. Nor is it better than Fargo, although it's a little pointless to compare different genres.

Is it better than Raising Arizona?

No.

So that's that then. It's good (certainly not a bit shit), but nothing to get too excited about. Fargo and Miller's crossing, on the other hand, are.

Those aren't very old.

My contribution:

The 39 Steps (the one with Robert Donat).

They're plenty old. I'm just after any gems from the past, basically.

Why do you like the original 39 steps so much then? It's being remade at the moment, I believe. <shudder>

Your guidelines seem to imply any good films more than 17 or so years old. Yikes. I'll pretend you meant what I thought you did from the topic title, so:

Seven Samurai

Laura

Casablanca

The Third Man

Citizen Kane

I could go on, but 5 is enough.

The earliest of them is 28 years old, which is almost as old as me.

Why should people watch the films you've recommended particularly though? Same applies to everyone else.

So, what older films should everybody have seen at least once? Just been thinking about it, and I've come up with these:

All the President's Men

Superb dramatisation of one of the most important political scandals ever (Watergate). Excellent performances from Robert Redford and Dustin Hoffman as the rookie reporters who broke the biggest story of our time. Brilliant political intrigue, made all the more so because it's true.

The Italian Job

Just excellent, really. Michael Caine as the coolest robber ever, plus it's got minis showing the Italians how to do things in it. Top thing.

Dog Day Afternoon

Based on a true story - possibly the strangest bank job ever. Early Pacino at his absolute best. Proper surreal stuff.

Loads of others, of course. So let's hear 'em please.

It looks like we are going to make it through the whole tournament without having a single cointoss.

Good game last night, Arnie74. Me and Minerwilly in the final. When are you available?

XSN is a complete and utter pisstake. Grr.

You beat me and it failed to register. So I forfeited. Just checked the mail account I registered with, and this was in my inbox:

Choccy,

Because your game against yorkie247 (Competition: RLLMUK CHAMPS 2) was not

completed by 1/31/2004, it has been decided by a coin toss. yorkie247

was granted the win.

Remember that failure to play your games by the required deadline will

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Gah, gah, and thrice, gah.

Only trouble is I've also got 'Dead Like Me', 'Tru Calling', '24', and 'Enterprise' to watch.

Did you enjoy Carnivale?

(sorry for dragging the thread off topic, briefly)