partious

2 hours ago, amc said:

Went bonkers and pre ordered the Horizon bundle and controller chargers. That's a Quest, GearVR with S9+, PSVR1, a pair of Nreal Air glasses and now PSVR2.

 

My fucking eyes are gonna fall out before I'm 51.

How are the nreal airs in terms of comfort and resolution etc? 

I have the old Sony HMZ t3 but it's only 720p and not very comfortable. 

 I’ve always been impressed that the Wii U had the hardware to “emulate” (if mister is emulation this is too..) GameCube games (but not discs) perfectly but the only GameCube games you could officially play on the thing were two full price Zelda remasters, with console VC conveniently stopping at N64. Thanks Nintendo!

2 minutes ago, Kevvy Metal said:

 

It's also my understanding that There's no software emulation for PS1 games on PS3. The PS3 literally has a PS1 inside it, so all that functionality is just carried over. 
I find it to be a bit lacklustre though as the scaling creates a lot of lag. 

I thought the hardware was just for PS2 BC. Anything I’ve read over the years said PS1 was software emulation, but that could be mistaken.

PS1 on PS3 was pretty impressive from a consumer standpoint because Sony let you play any ps1 disc on a software emulator, which now seems to be something that it would be impossible for a console to allow for some reason (legalities?). 

Is there anything stopping Sony or MS putting software BC in a modern console to let you play every PS2/original Xbox disc aside from effort/lack of desire to do so? 

That’s fair enough and I’m doing my best not to come across like I’m saying mister is bad, because obviously it isn’t. I think it’s great and worth the money. I just think there’s often an implication that it’s some sort of night and day difference compared to modern software emulation and I think it’s worth sharing a dissenting opinion, especially since the mister is pretty hard/expensive to get hold of right now.  I think you have to already be somewhat far down the rabbit hole to appreciate the mister.
 

You don’t have to mess around with those retroarch settings to have a good experience beyond an initial setup that is no more complex than the mister ini setup. I think a raspberry pi 3 directly connected to a Crt via composite and running thousands of arcade games that a mister can’t via Final Burn is as impressive as a mister. Also costs a fraction of the price. The mister crt setup requires having a higher end crt, add on boards for the mister etc. The pi worked out of the box with a cheap composite cable. 

One area where I think mister shines compared to software emulation is home computers like C64 and Amiga. If those are someone’s main interest I’d strongly recommend a mister over the alternatives.

For consoles and arcade games I don’t think mister offers a massively better experience than software emulation but it wasn’t my intention to just come here and badmouth the mister, I guess I’m just curious what exactly people are finding so amazing about the mister experience vs modern emulators.

I have a mister and it’s excellent but I feel like the discussion surrounding it always comes with the false implication that there is some major perceptible difference in the gameplay experience vs software emulation on a decent modern device (which is also excellent and not laggy, inconvenient, complex to set up etc etc).
 

My most impressive emulation experience was probably the day I discovered MAME back in the day. Also I feel like dolphin for GameCube on a good pc is the closest an emulator has come to making a console obsolete by offering a superior experience. 

Putting aside the methods that people use to get it for peanuts and considering it as Microsoft actually intends/expects people to use it as an ongoing service, I think it’s probably decent value if 1) the Xbox is your only console,2)you own no unplayed games(which I guess is what might make having access to a bunch of old games of varying quality appealing), and 3) you have a lot of gaming time but just want to play “a game” and not particular games that may or may not be on the service. I’m surprised how many people here the second and third points seem to apply to. 

I have a library of PC games that I got free from epic and prime over the last few years that I never play, along with my steam collection which basically means I wouldn’t even consider gamepass for pc. There’s the promise of Day 1 first party releases but somehow I haven’t felt like I’m missing out on all those classics yet. I don’t like how maintaining ongoing subscriptions feels like wasted money if you play a long game that isn’t on the service/aren’t in the mood of gaming for a while etc. I feel like it kind of changes the relationship you have to the games you’re playing.

7 hours ago, MattyP said:

Maybe next year we start to see more games that use the new consoles hardware a bit more?

 

Had both the PS5 and Series X and not really found a compelling reason to keep either at the moment. I expect some revised consoles at some point and some games that need the power of a PS5 or Series X. Until then I will just keep plodding on with my Series S and GamePass seems to be enough fun gaming right there ATM. Oh and my old PC with the Oculus S.

How does buying and getting rid of a series x and ps5 and then playing gamepass on a series s while waiting for there to be games that make it “worth” having a series x or ps5 make more sense either financially or just in terms of effort than just buying and keeping a series x in the first place? If you scalped the ps5 then fair enough but that’s the only way this way of going about things makes sense to me.

 The upgrade to PS5 and PSVR2 hardware is exciting if you imagine yourself playing AAA games on it.

 Stuff like Pistol Whip will benefit from not having to use the move controllers but that’s about it really, does a higher resolution really matter for that tier of vr game?

The hardware upgrades and resulting high price would only be fully justified if there’s a decent stream of AAA PSVR2 content, either vr conversions of existing games or new content. The announced games don’t inspire too much confidence that that will be the case.

I got PSVR at release and am definitely at the higher end of the "interest in vr games" scale, but I'm out at that price. Not totally Sony's fault, to be honest, I'm out on basically any product that has an RRP that was set after the yen went to shit compared to the dollar. 60,000 yen for a PS5 and then 75,000 yen for the headset...

Not getting PSVR2 basically ensures I'll be staying PC only this gen as it was the main reason I would have considered a ps5.

I'll stick with my PC and Quest. 

I'm sure the psvr2 will be better but to what extent? Slightly higher perceived resolution? Who cares? The problem with vr is lack of worthwhile content. That list of psvr2 launch games isn't exactly enticing when you've already played Alyx and various PC vr mods.

The early vr hype is pretty much gone now. I wouldn't be surprised if this thing flops, especially now that I've seen the price/announced games.

57 minutes ago, DeciderVT said:

Only if you play a couple of systems.

True, I’d realized that part was biased towards my own use case and edited it out but you got your reply in too quick

I really don’t see the point of most of the add ons if you’re using the mister with a hdmi screen, other than making it slightly more convenient/tidy. 
I have the de10 nano and 128mb sdram and after a few years of using those I haven’t felt the need to get anything else. All the add ons are very far from necessary but YouTube videos etc have done a good job giving newcomers the impression that they’re absolute essentials.

When you get into the territory of buying adapters for minuscule input lag reductions I’d be more inclined to just play on the original hardware (probably costs less anyway). 

13 minutes ago, ulala said:

 

"stung"?

 

what do you mean by that?

What do you mean by your question?

I was asking a question about copyright and youtube. Zero interest in getting involved in the latest uk retro scene aggro beyond that.

6 hours ago, ianinthefuture said:

It was a video about Altered Beast, and the photo was on screen for a second or two.

 

He used a copyrighted image without permission, though, doesn't matter what the topic was or how long it was for. Loads of YouTubers do it, he got caught doing it. And then made it much worse for himself for trying to throw his weight around alongside his wife's terrible acting.

Did he have no alternative but to pay the 500 quid? Could he have disputed it/taken down the video/removed the picture/argued fair use etc?

I'm just curious as I didn't know it was so easy to be stung for a fairly significant amount of money on youtube, as opposed to just having the video demonitized or taken down, considering how much of retro gaming YouTube is based around some sort of iffy copyright stuff. 

I've never heard of anything more punitive than a video being taken down/demonitised, but maybe it's a common occurance?

How long was the Harryhausen photo on screen for? Was the video about “this photo of Harryhausen” or was it something flashed for two seconds in a video about old games? 
 

As a non-UK person, I find that the UK retro scene seems to have a lot of aggro and angry people involved. There often seems to be some sort of infighting going on around website ownership/management, niche products and now YouTube creators, something which I don’t seem to notice as much with stuff from other countries.

No physical backwards compatibility resulting in Switch games hitting the bargain bins asap.

52 minutes ago, Jazz Glands said:

Decided after a week or two to stick them on eBay, as I’m generally collecting NTSC stuff to play and they’d just sit on the shelf.

There’s no shame in admitting you bought them to flip on eBay for profit. Up on eBay after an entire week of ownership just cos 

I bought about 60 Japanese n64 carts recently and I’m sure the total price was less than 100 pounds. Basically the entire Japanese catalogue of any merit aside from Sin and Punishment and Bangai O (more expensive) and Goldeneye (Japanese version slightly pricey compared to other Japanese games and not sure I want it in 2022). Japanese n64 games are dirt cheap, boxed or unboxed. I got carts because when boxed games are worthless you kind of see the reality that a bunch of boxes = a bunch of cardboard clutter.

 I got most of the classics, Mario 64, Mario kart, both Zeldas, pilotwings, starfox, smash bros, Paper Mario etc etc from 100 yen bins, most of the ones that cost a bit more are relatively crap games. So my recommendation for anyone who wants cheap retro games in 2022 is Japanese n64 games. 

19 minutes ago, bignige said:

Is that Sega Rally 3? You’ll want Teknoparrot for that. It runs really well on a half decent pc. 

2006 is the Japan only PS2 game that came in a set with the emulated original arcade game. It doesn’t really have the Sega Rally “feel”, but it’s a decent enough game. 

2 hours ago, Isaac said:

What are some great pick-up-and-play games for the 360/Dreamcast/PS2 era?

 

Want some arcade racers on my steam deck but not sure what to try.

There are a LOT. 

A few arcade racers (just the main ones that come to mind).
 

PS2:

Ridge Racer 5 

Battle Gear 2 and 3 

Burnout 2 (and the rest I suppose)

Shox Rally (a surprisingly good game)

Outrun 2

The King of Route 66

Motorstorm Arctic Edge

Sega Rally 95

Splashdown Rides Gone Wild

PS3/360:

Daytona USA

Outrun 2 online

Sega Rally Online Arcade (not Revo)

Ridge Racer 6(360) 7 (PS3)

Blur

Split Second (Also on steam)

Pure (Also on steam)

GTI Club

Motorstorm games (PS3)

Sonic etc etc Transformed (Also on Steam and highly recommended over the console versions).

57 minutes ago, Lying Cat said:

 

Sure, but there's a literal ocean of amazing indie titles which you can boot up for a quick blast if you're not in the mood to collect 3422 Viking Codpieces or whatever.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there are no good games nowadays. Indie stuff is one of the main reasons I decided to go with a PC over PlayStation or Xbox this gen. 

I think it might depend on how you take the question in the OP. Do I want a new Sega console where current day Sega release Yakuza sequels, Sonic Frontiers, Football Manager, the 100th release of the same 30 MegaDrive games. No!

Would I like to see console in a world where later arcade games like Outrun 2, Afterburner Climax, etc etc were commercial hits, and see what games that might have led to. Yes I would. 

23 minutes ago, Lying Cat said:

 

Oh, I know. I'm, like, 41 and spent a disproportionate number of weekends down the Trocadero. I have no longing for that era - been there, done that, got shaped, loved the experience. Outside of dreary Ubisoft Collect-a-thons I'd prefer to play new games if I'm honest.

Might be partly an issue of attention span on my part (although not really something I suffer from outside of my gaming preferences) but I find almost all big modern games equally dreary after the initial couple of hours, not just the Ubisoft ones. 

The Yakuza games were mentioned above. Well made, highly polished games but really all I want is the Spikeout/Slashout style action stages, the rest just feels like drudgery to me. I'd be much happier if those games were a bunch of linear action stages that took a few hours to complete.

I used to think I'd gone off gaming over the years but eventually I realized my tastes always heavily leaned towards fast paced games with exciting moment to moment gameplay and not slower story heavy stuff.

The Dreamcast was the last console where the majority of games seemed to be made for people who mainly wanted the instantly gratifying, exciting moment to moment gameplay style of gaming.  

15 minutes ago, Lying Cat said:

 

Maybe I want more than "drive the car" for my golden age?

My bias showing There were arcade style games that weren't about driving cars too I'm sure, but you'll just have to take my word for it.

I've already pretty much decided not to buy any more Sony and Microsoft consoles going forward, so sure.

I think the problem with a question like this on this forum is that a lot of the people who are still enthusiastically posting on game forums of the non-retro variety and telling us how we've never had it as good etc weren't really big fans of arcade games, Sega games etc etc. 

I can see the clear progression from 80s home computers, 90s PC games, Tomb Raiders, Resident Evils, Syphon Filters, Gran Tourismos etc etc to making that claim, but I can't see a logical link from Crazy Taxi, Sega Rally, Daytona, Ridge Racer and all the rest of the great arcade games we were constantly getting until the early 2000s to thinking we're currently in a golden age.

I'd trade any of the modern game publishers output for a legal way to play all the modern arcade games people pirate and run on the "emulator" (not actually an emulator) teknoparrot.

I've never done this and I'm fascinated by the people on this forum who do it multiple times every single console gen unless they're stuck for cash.

  When you go to sell your 4th switch do you not think "hmmm there is a slight chance I might maybe end up doing this again so maybe I should keep it"?

Buying and reselling PS5s or graphics cards at above rrp which some people have mentioned doing in this thread is just regular opportunistic scalping.