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Posts posted by dr_manhattan^

  1. 2 minutes ago, Boothjan said:


    I too am biased and I agree.


    It's too raw to say whether I'd feel the same if it was the other way. 


    We played well and more than deserved to win. Absolutely sick that we didn't. 


    Ugh. Football. I'll be devastated if that means we don't finish in the top 6. 

    Yeah I thought we’d lose tonight, but to deserve the win and have it snatched away because Matt didn’t want to take a kiwi size eleven to the face. 

    Dunno man, I think VAR let’s Harry Maguire off with that. 

    Worried about Europe now. 

    Great penalty though. 

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  2. Just now, feltmonkey said:

    I've not got it on, but the BBC updates make it sound like the ball hit the defender's hand while he was trying to protect himself from a high boot - is that right?

    Spot on. Wood’s foot high, Doherty protecting himself. VAR was as shite as usual, champions league gone now. 

    Feel a bit robbed. 

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  3. 2 minutes ago, feltmonkey said:

    I imagine all the alternatives have their own benefits and drawbacks.  Obviously if there is a solution that does what you say, that would be ideal.  With this ruling, they might have to explore those, as surely FFP is dead in the water now.


    I think one was something to do with owners guaranteeing losses, but I really don't know.

  4. 5 minutes ago, feltmonkey said:


    What would you do though? FFP is designed not to help the big clubs (although I understand of course that it absolutely does) but to keep all the clubs in existence. It was a reaction to what happened to Leeds, Portsmouth, and Blackburn - unchecked overspending leading to the financial collapse of a club. What would you rather have - Wolves, having to work within parameters that ensure they remain viable but which makes it functionally impossible to break into the top three or four permenantly, or the chance of a spending spree from your owners which brings in a bunch of stars and makes you a Champions League club, but one that suddenly collapses out of existence and leaves you with no club to support at all? I know neither scenario is great.


    FFP is unfair, but I guess in theory it keeps clubs alive. I'm not an expert, particularly in financial matters, but there must be a better way of doing things. For a start, there must be greater scrutiny of owners, and perhaps some restrictions on the way ownership of a club should work. Whatever our grievances about this situation with City, which directly impacts both our teams' ambitions for the end of the season, we're better off than Wigan fans. The whole way football is organised is wrong. 


    I've heard on various podcasts that there are other methods to achieve the protection you refer to without having the side affect of hampering competition.  It's not either/or, from what I understand there are alternatives.


    So I'd have the footballing bodies explore these.

  5. Just now, feltmonkey said:

    No matter what you think about FFP, those are the rules that exist. Does anyone seriously think that City didn't deliberately break them? 




    You're right of course, but personally I don't think it's a solid argument to denounce City.  It's anti-competitive which shouldn't be a goal or product of a set of rules developed by a sporting body in my opinion.

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  6. 1 minute ago, ryodi said:


    Those clubs would also welcome loaning players from City in the future so I'm sure it wasn't a selfless act. PSG got away with it, I'm not surprised City have as well. 

    I was referring more to United and Liverpool than the other three.  The replies indicate that Wolves were of the same opinion as Liverpool and United anyway.

  7. 38 minutes ago, Naysonymous said:

    Yes, it's a way of ensuring established old money clubs don't get overtaken by the next Chelsea, PSG or Manchester City.   I think Manchester City have proved that they can afford justice though, their owners are richer than UEFA and FIFA combined and have publicly said that they are happy to bog this shit down in court for years and see who runs out of money first. Guess it's an effective tactic.


    If true, this would also back that up:



  8. Just now, Sirloin said:

    They look like they came for a 0-0 and are particularly determined to keep either side from playing.

    Yeah, I think they just know their season is over, would be better to see them just go for it in that situation though.

  9. 21 minutes ago, Boothjan said:


    Whoa whoa whoa, what's with this negative mindset?! Still think we'll make the top 6. Have a bit of faith!

    Top six? I don’t see it personally. I’d take seventh if offered now. Hope you’re right though. 

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