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  1. Certainly a good range of directors across those 30 films although the middle poll being dominated by 3 different trilogies (all with the same directors across all 3 films) reduces the director spread a bit. 6 Directors with multiple films: 3 - Christopher Nolan 3 - Peter Jackson 2 - Edgar Wright 2 - Cohen Brothers 2 - Quentin Tarantino 2 - Denis Villeneuve
  2. Leeds CEO stated that it would be a 'National Embarrassment' if The Premier League and Championship aren't finished. Which is a ridiculously overblown thing to say. An interesting tactic to rile up all the teams with players who don't really think we should restart who then decide for one game they will go all out to win as if its a cup final. Leeds first two fixtures back are Cardiff away (and we are a terrible bogey side for them) and then Fulham at Home. They could be on the way to blowing it again within the first week of restart!
  3. I think they've said Play-off woulds happen (although who knows how) - I think the third place team going up automatically creates another set of arguments, but equally a closed door play-offs would be exceptionally strange.
  4. I'm I reading it right that they'll be a vote on whether to finish the season and it needs 51% to scrap the remaining games and use PPG. If so, then that is the ball game in the Championship, 5 out of the 6 clubs at the top are almost certain to vote to finish now to go up or retain their play-off spot. The exception might be Fulham if they think they can chase down Leeds or West Brom. There are 5 teams within 3 points of the drop so all of the are going to vote to finish now so they stay up. So you need 3 more teams out of 13 to vote to finish now. The 3 at the bottom won't leaving 10 that could still technically make the play-offs. If 3 of them think its unlikely they will get there and its going to be more expensive to finish the season than not then season over.
  5. Over the last few months - we've voted on the best films of the last three decades. So - lets crown a winner for each decade. I'm being lazy and doing a straight up poll for each decade of the winning film for each year. Poll closes in a week. Mods - Could this be pinned? Please discuss your choices and terrible agonising over what to vote for. I think the broad range of films/genres that have won each year should make it interesting to see what comes out on top in a straight winner takes all vote.
  6. Stats Highest scoring winning film: Dredd (2012) - 32 Points Lowest scoring winning film: Under the Skin (2009) - 14 Points Highest scoring 3rd place film: Black Swan (2010) – 18 Points Lowest scoring 3rd place film: The Master (2012) & The Nice Guys (2016) & Leave No Trace (2018) - 10 points Total number of films with votes: 287 from 1917 to Zootropolis Year with most picks 2011 - 33 different films Year with least picks 2015 - 23 different films Winning Films by Director 2 – Denis Villeneuve (plus 1 Third Place) Winning Films by Actor 2 – Scarlett Johansson 2 – Dave Bautista 2 – Ryan Gosling Top 30 Stats 6 Films set partially in Space 5 Super-hero films (not included Dredd) 1 Foreign Language film 1 Animated film
  7. DECADE RESULTS 2010 1st Place - 22 Points: THE SOCIAL NETWORK 2nd Place - 19 Points: INCEPTION 3rd Place - 18 Points: BLACK SWAN 2011 1st Place - 21 Points: DRIVE 2nd Place - 18 Points: THE RAID 3rd Place - 9 Points: TINKER TAILOR SOLDIER SPY 2012 1st Place - 32 Points: DREDD 2nd Place - 24 Points: AVENGERS 3rd Place - 8 Points: THE MASTER 2013 1st Place - 14 Points: UNDER THE SKIN 2nd Place - 13 Points: GRAVITY 3rd Place - 12 Points: THE WOLF OF WALL STREET 2014 1st Place - 26 Points: THE GRAND BUDAPEST HOTEL 2nd Place - 19 Points: WHIPLASH 3rd Place - 17 Points: NIGHTCRAWLER 2015 1st Place - 31 Points: MAD MAX: FURY ROAD 2nd Place - 18 Points: THE MARTIAN 3rd Place - 17 Points: SICARIO 2016 1st Place – 19 Points: ARRIVAL 2nd Place - 12 Points: HUNT FOR THE WILDERPEOPLE 3rd Place - 8 Points: THE NICE GUYS 2017 1st Place - 24 Points: BLADERUNNER 2049 2nd Place - 13 Points: PHANTOM THREAD 3rd Place - 11 Points: THE DEATH OF STALIN 2018 1st Place - 30 Points: AVENGERS: INFINTY WAR 2nd Place - 29 Points: SPIDER-MAN: INTO THE SPIDER-VERSE 3rd Place - 8 Points: LEAVE NO TRACE 2019 1st Place - 17 Points: PARASITE 2nd Place - 12 Points: AVENGERS: END GAME 3rd Place - 10 Points: APOLLO 11
  8. But they will still have play-offs which feels like a logistical nightmare if one of the 4 teams comes under any sort of player loss disadvantage from the virus and that is 12 teams out of 76 having to train and get ready to play in the most important of games to determine their season while the clubs relegated have no opportunity to play themselves out of trouble. Just saw something that said Charlton dropped into bottom 3 for the first time on the final week-end. There next game was Hull who they would go above if they won.
  9. I'm going to do some stats now and I'll include the master list. What I might do is average points as different number of votes between the split polls I was thinking of some sort of decade or century so far poll and also a tournament. Not sure with decade/century overall what sort of restrictions to put on it - top ten/top 5 - pick from the 30/60 top films in the poll only?
  10. 2019 Results And so it ends with the final year in this poll and the decade. 2019 is a really, really good year and sadly it’s going to be a while before we get a year as good as this one again or even close given the current state of affairs and future impact that may have on the film industry. For 2019, I asked for Top 10s as well as Top 3s and now realised it is difficult to use both at the same time. So this will use the Top 3 scores to determine the 2019 winner (but each films Top 10 Points) will be in brackets as we go down the list and then at the bottom will the list based on Top Ten scoring (where 1st place is worth 10 points regardless is a voter picked 3/8 or 10 and then 2nd worth 9 and so on). 2019 Box Office 1 Avengers: Endgame $2,797,800,564 2 The Lion King $1,656,943,394 3 Frozen II $1,450,026,933 4 Spider-Man: Far From Home $1,131,927,996 5 Captain Marvel $1,128,274,794 Best Picture: Oscar: Parasite Best Picture: BAFTA: 1917 2nd at the box office is Jon Favreau directing a ‘live action’ Lion King. His adaptation of Jungle Book was pretty good and made a lot of money. This made even more, but unlike Jungle Book, its pretty much a shot for shot remake of the original that is an incredible technical achievement, but lacks the charm of the original mainly because super realistic animals doesn’t work if the film is exactly the same. 3rd is Frozen 2 which took a lot longer for Disney to cash in on their mega hit. This take a lot of money, but like the original film, isn’t that great and lacks the killer songs. 9th is another Disney live action remake as Will Smith is the Genie in Aladdin directed by Guy Ritchie(?!). It’s not without its charm. 10th is Jumanji: The Next Level as Dwayne Johnson and Jack Black are joined by Danny Devito and Danny Glover. It’s a fun mess. At the box office, the only award winner to not get any top ten votes is Rupert Goold directing Renée Zellweger to all the Best Actress awards as Judy Garland. Forgot to put this in my top ten, but Little Monsters Is a really funny, bad taste Zombie/school trip comedy with Lupita Nyong'o and Alexander England. Daniel Kaluuya and Jodie Turner are really good as Queen & Slim in this on the run road movie. Brian Kirk directs Chadwick Boseman in decent cop thriller, 21 Bridges. Tom Hanks is Mr Rogers in A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood. Tom Hooper directs Cats The Musical with James Cordon and Judie Dench and terrifying/freaky cat CGI that was so bad they had to patch it. Let us never speak of it again. Ang Lee directs Will Smith and Young Will Smith in this charmless action film, with a couple of good set pieces and all over the place CGI in Gemini Man. M. Night Shyamalan directs James McAvoy, Bruce Willis, Samuel L. Jackson in Unbreakable and Split sequel, Glass and it isn't up to much. Tim Miller directs Terminator 6 or Terminator 3.2 as Arnie is back alongside Linda Hamilton in Terminator: Dark Fate. Forgettable, but a pretty good action film at least compared to anything after T2. A cast of Chris Hemsworth, Thessa Thompson and Liam Neeson in Men in Black: International sounds like it should be good, but it isn't. Simon Kinberg gives us the 4th in the Xmen 'Prequel' run with Dark Phoenix which, like the 3rd one, was rubbish. Ewan Mcgregor stars in Shining sequel, Doctor Sleep. Jason Statham and Dwayne Johnson bicker and blow stuff up in Fast & Furious Presents: Hobbs & Shaw. Michael Dougherty directs the pretty average Godzilla: King of the Monsters. David Harbour is in a Hellboy reboot that didn't do very well. Gurinder Chadha directs a decent coming of age/Bruce Springstein inspired tale of growing up in Luton with Viveik Kalra and Kulvinder Ghir in Blinded By The Light. Jay Roach directs Charlie Theron and Nicole Kidman in Fox News/Me Too biopic, Bombshell. Tod Haynes directs a good and shocking true life lawyer tale as Mark Ruffalo stars in Dark Waters. Zac Efron is Ten Bundy in Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil and Vile. Robert Pattinson tastes the High Life Chris Butler directs Hugh Jackman and Zach Galifianakis in enjoyable stop-motion tale, Missing Link. Abominable was pretty good as well as was Will Smith and Tom Holland in Spies in Disguise. Adam Cornish directed The King Who Would Be King which was supposed to be good and Dora and The Lost City of Gold was a fun kids Indiana Jones tale. Dev Patel and Armie Hammer star in Hotel Mumbai. Michael B Jordan and Jamie Foxx faced some Just Mercy. Emilia Clarke and Henry Golding star in George Michael song, rom-com, Last Christmas. Natalie Portman was Lucy in the Sky Angelina Jolie returned in Maleficent: Mistress of Evil meh! Roland Emmerich directs Ed Skrein and Luke Evans in a war film that has dodgy dialogue and CGI, but was quite watchable and enjoyable overall in Midway. Stallone does Rambo: Last Blood which wasn't very good. Clint Eastwood directs Paul Walter Hauser and Sam Rockwell in bio-pic Richard Jewell. André Øvredal directs Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark. Sam Jackson and Richard Rowntree return for a third generation of Shaft. Kumail Nanjiani and Dave Bautista aren't very funny in Stuber. Michael Bay drops to Netflix to direct Ryan Reynolds in 6 Underground. Gerard Butler is still protecting the president in Angel Has Fallen Elizabeth Banks fights an evil kid Superman in Brightburn. Jillian Bell stars in Brittany Runs a Marathon. Elizabeth Banks directs herself, Kristen Stewart and Naomi Scott in Charlie's Angels which wasn't completely terrible. Aubrey Plaza stars in a Child's Play reboot. Liam Neeson does a Cold Pursuit. Justin Dec directs rubbish phone app horror, Countdown. Alexandre Aja directs Barry Pepper in alligator flood horror, Crawl which was pretty good. Hugh Bonneville stars in Downton Abbey: The Movie. Tim Burton directs the third live action Disney film of the year as Colin Farrell and Danny De Vito star in Dumbo - which wasn't well received, but I quite liked it.. Horror included Escape Room, Black Christmas, Happy Death Day 2U and Annabelle Comes Home. Gene Stupnitsky directs crude and pretty funny in places kids on a mission comedy, Good Boys. Emma Thompson stars in Late Night. Edward Norton directs himself in Motherless Brooklyn. Adam Sandler and Jennifer Aniston do a Murder Mystery. Keira Knightley uncovers Official Secrets Jason Clarke stars in a crap Pet Sematary adaptation. John Cena is Playing with Fire. Alexander Skarsgård and Keira Knightley deal with The Aftermath. Benedict Cumberbatch and Michael Shannon fight The Current War. Jim Jarmusch does zombies with Bill Murray and Adam Driver in The Dead Don't Die. John Crowley directs Ansel Elgort and Nicole Kidman in The Goldfinch. Bill Condon directs Ian McKellen as The Good Liar. Hilary Duff stars in The Haunting of Sharon Tate. Kevin Costner and Woody Harrelson were The Highwaymen Anne Hathaway and Rebel Wilson do The Hustle and Hathaway finds Serenity with Matthew McConaughey. Melissa McCarthy and Elisabeth Moss went to The Kitchen. Steven Soderbergh directs Meryl Streep and Gary Oldman in The Laundromat. Shia LaBeouf and Dakota Johnson star in The Peanut Butter Falcon which received some acclaim. Danny Boyle directs Himesh Patel and Lily James in fairly bland Beatles comedy, Yesterday. Ruben Fleischer directs; Woody Harrelson, Jesse Eisenberg and Emma Stone returning for Zombieland: Double Tap. Richard Shepard directs out there horror, The Perfection starring Allison Williams which is worth a look. Mel Gibson and Sean Penn were The Professor and the Madman. Adam Driver exposes post 9/11 torture in decent biopic, The Report. Bryan Cranston and Kevin Hart do a remake with The Upside. Nicholas Hoult is Tolkien. Ben Affleck and Osacr Issac went to the Triple Frontier. Dan Gilroy directs Jake Gyllenhaal and Rene Russo in Velvet Buzzshaw. Adam Shankman directs Taraji P. Henson and Tracy Morgan in What Men Want. A lot of not very good animation with Wonder Park, UglyDolls, The Secret Life of Pets 2, The Angry Birds Movie 2, Tha Addams Family, The Playmobile Movie. Films with points from Top Ten Lists, but not from just Top 3 lists (with points in brackets – full list in order at bottom) Asif Kapadia directs a documentary about troubled football genius, Diego Maradona (1 Point) Vince Gilligan directs Aaron Paul in Breaking Bad The Movie: El Comino (1 Point) which gives us closure on where Jessie ended up. Pedro Almodovar directs Antonio Banderas to his first Oscar nomination and a Best Actor at Cannes in Spanish drama, Pain and Glory (1 Point). Andy Muschietti directs James McAvoy, Jessica Chastain, and Bill Hader taking on Pennywise in It Chapter Two (1 Point). Joanna Hogg directs Honor Swinton Byrne and Tom Burke in British romantic drama, The Souvenir (1 Point). Alita: Battle Angel (2 Points) see Robert Rodriquez diecting Rosa Salazar and Christoph Waltz in this decent sci-fi action Manga adaptation. Can You Ever Forgive Me (3 Points) has snuck in here from 2018 - Melissa McCarthy and Richard E Grant are very good and well worth a watch. Rob Letterman directs Ryan Reynolds as Detective Pikachu (3 Points) which wasn't as good as it looked like it was going to be from the trailer. Alex Ross Perry directs Elizabeth Moss as a destructive rock star in Her Smell (3 Points) Samara Weaving and Aiden Brody star in a fun horror/comedy as a Bride is asked if she is Ready or Not (3 Points) to become a member of her husband's family. Jay Baruchel and Toothless star in the third, How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World (3 Points) Paul Thomas Anderson directs a musical short film with Anima (4 Points) James Gray sends Brad Pitt to space to find Tommy Lee Jones in Sci Fi 'road' movie, Ad Astra (4 Points) Shia LeBeouf writes and stars in a tale of a child actor based on his own upbringing in Honey Boy (4 Points) and it is really good Tom Harper directs Felicity Jones and Eddie Redmayne in rather great hot air balloon adventure, Aeronauts (5 Points) S. Craig Zahler directs Vince Vaughan and Mel Gibson in dark cop tale, Dragged Across Concrete (5 Points) Lorene Scafaria manages to get a great performance out of Jennifer Lopez in decent stripper/crime drama, Hustlers (5 Points) with Constance Wu. Awkwafina scoops a Best Actress award at the Globes for her perforance in Lulu Wang's The Farewell (5 Points) Zeek Earl and Chris Caldwell direct Sophie Thatcher and Pedro Pascal in Prospect (5 Points) Bernard Rose directs Japanese tale, Samurai Marathon (5 Points) which Benny calls "highly entertaining and unusual period piece" Armando Iannucci takes a break from foul mouthed political idiots to direct Dev Patel in the rather lovely retelling of a Dicken's classic in The Personal History of David Copperfield (5 Points) James Mangold directs Matt Damon and Christian Bale doing some racing in Ford v Ferrari (5 Points) Jon Watts directs the first post End-Game movie as Tom Holland is Spider-Man: Far From Home (6 Points) which is decent, but not as good as the first one. Best post credits ever though. Stephen Merchant directs very enjoyable WWE/Paige biopic as Florence Pugh is Fighting With My Family (7 Points) with Nick Frost and Dwayne Johnson Jia Zhangke directs Zhao Tao and Liao Fan in Chinese drama, Ash is the Purest White (7 Points) David F. Sandberg directs Zachary Levi and Mark Strong in DC's Captain Marvel movie, Shazam! (8 Points) Which, like its Marvel equivilant this year is a fun superhero tale. Mike Mitchell directs Chris Pratt and Elizabeth Banks in The Lego Movie 2 (8 Points) which is good, but nowhere neat the quality of the first one. Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck directs Brie Larson as Captain Marvel (9 Points) alongside a de-aged Sam Jackson in this enjoyable MCU prequel. Greta Gerwig directs Saoirse Ronan and Emma Watson in an acclaimed adaptation of Little Women (9 Points) Jeremy Clapin directs French animated fantasy tale, I Lost my Body (10 Points) Craig Brewer directs the Eddie Murphy from the 80's and Wesley Snipes in a brilliantly foul mouthed, feel good, film making comedy, Dolemite Is My Name (11 Points) By far the highest scoring top ten picks film to not appear in anyone's top 3 is Keanu Reeves on tour and doing some horse-fu in John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum (24 Points) Top 3 pick Results (with Top 10 pick score in brackets) 1 Points Alejandro Landes directs Julianne Nicholson and Moisés Arias Columbian drama, Monos (8 Points) Fernando Meirelles directs Anthony Hopkins and Jonathan Pryce as The Two Popes (8 Points) Riley Stearns directs comedy/thriller, The Art Of Self Defence (8 Points) with Jessie Eisenberg. Noah Baumbach directs Scarlett Johansson (who had quite a year with 3 films on this list) and Adam Driver going through a divorce. Laura Dern won all the Best Supporting actress awards in Marriage Story (35 Points) 2 Points Brady Corbet directs Natalie Portman trying to survive being a pop star in Vox Lux (9 Points) Richard Stanley directs Nicholas Cage in Sci Fi Lovecraft horror in Color Out of Space (15 Points) Sam Mendes directs George MacKay and Dean-Charles Chapman in 1917 (17 Points). Technically impressive, filmed as one shot (with an intermission as it were) with amazing Roger Deakins cinematography. It lacks 'something', but the first act is incredibly tense and its good stuff. The film and Mendes both won at the Globes and BAFTAs. Rian Johnson directs Daniel Craig, Chris Evans and Ana de Armas in a family murder mystery, Knives Out (48 Points) and it is clever, funny and brilliant. 3 Points Jonathan Levine delivers Seth Rogen and Charlize Theron in likeable rom-com, Long Shot (10 Points) David Michôd directs Timothée Chalamet and Joel Edgerton (who also co-wrote the script) in historical, Shakespeare adaptation, The King (10 Points). Celine Sciamma directs Noemie Merlant and Adele Haenel in historical French drama, Portrait of a Lady on Fire (10 Points) Dexter Fletcher directs Taron Egerton as Elton John in Rocketman (17 Points) in this musical biopic with a lot more invention and edge than Bohiemem Rhapsody. Lee Chang-dong directs Yoo-Ah-in and Jeon Jong-seo in Korean mystery, Burning (17 Points) Robert Eggers directs Willem Dafoe and Robert Pattinson in psychological horror, The Lighthouse (18 Points) J. J. Abrams directs John Boyega, Daisy Ridley and Adam Driver in the 9th and final(?) Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (19 Points) as they go with part enjoyable fetch quest as long as you don't think about it and part trying to conclude something they hadn't planned out in the first place. A disappointing box office performance as well finishing only 7th globally. Jordan Peele directs Lupita Nyong'o and Winston Duke in very good doppelganger horror/comedy, Us (20 Points). Don't think about how it works too much though. Olivia Wilde directs Kaitlyn Dever and Beanie Feldstein in a very good coming of age comedy, Booksmart (28 Points) Josh Cooley directs Tom Hanks and Tim Allen in Toy Story 4 (33 Points) which I personally found a bit disappointing, but disappointing Toy Story is still good Toy Story. 5 Points Martin Scorsese directs Robert De Niro, Al Pacino and Joe Pesci in a very epic gangster tale, The Irishman (35 Points). 6 Points Safdie brothers directs the direct opposite of a chill out movie as Adam Sandler is excellent in super intense crime drama, Uncut Gems (42 Points) which Benny nicely describes as “Like being aggressively tapped on the forehead repeatedly for over two hours. And it's brilliant” 7 Points Florence Pugh and Jack Reynor take a very messed up trip to Sweden in Ari Aster's horror, Midsommar (32 Points). 8 Points Todd Phillips directs Joaquin Phoenix in Joker (48 Points) in this King of Comedy remake/Batman prequel. Phoenix is excellent and won all the Best Actor awards, it is well put together, but feels over-hyped and not sure I'd rewatch it. 9 Points Taika Waititi directs himself, Thomasin McKenzie and Scarlett Johansson in Jo Jo Rabbit (54 Points) which was strangely disliked or not really rated by critics. It’s a fantastic coming of age black comedy pivoting between ridiculous farce to the horrors of the Nazi regime. Everyone is great and that isn't another film this year that jumps from <mild spoilers> comedy to tension to tragedy and sadness in about a 5 minute spell. Quentin Tarantino directs Leonardo DiCaprio, Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie in alternate timeline end of the 60's Hollywood love letter, Once Upon A Time in Hollywood (56 Points). Some argued it was too long and not a lot happened, but for those who were drawn into this part buddy comedy/part history lesson/part sort of horror then it is up there with Tarantino's very best films and should have been even longer. Personally, I'm going masterpiece. Pitt won all the Best Actor awards and the film itself won a Globe. 3rd Place 10 Points Apollo 11 Taking third place on top 3 picks, Todd Douglas Miller directs a documentary on the Apollo 11 (45 Points) mission which Benny calls “a stunning, visually and aurally spectacular reminder of one of the most incredible events and feats of science and engineering in human history, and hits all the beats of the mission with expert skill”. 2nd Place 12 Points Avengers: End Game The Russo Brothers direct the biggest grossing film of all time (not adjusted for inflation) as they concluded the epic two parter started in Infinity War with Avengers: Endgame (75 Points). Its not as good as part 1, a bit too long and the super big battle at the end is a bit of a mess/disappointing as times (but also has some great bits), but it is still very good stuff and hard to see we will ever see such a big event film again - at least not for a long while. 1st Place 17 Points Parasite The Best Picture at the Oscars is the Best film of the year here as Bong Joon-ho directs (and wins his own Oscar) for Parasite (93 Points). It is an incredibly well put together black comedy drama which constantly keeps the audience guessing, surprised and engaged with plenty to contemplate when it is over. Song Kang-ho and Lee Sun-kyun star. It was the first non English language film to win the Best Picture also won the Palme d’Or. If you haven’t seen it then do so and try and go in cold. Top Ten Pick Results Top Ten of Top Ten Picks
  11. Given that the Championship is mental anyway and the gap between the last game and the first game back is going to be longer than between two seasons then the form book coud be completely ripped up across the board. Maybe not for poor old Hull, but its not unknown for teams that finished one season well and were subsequently favorites for promotion to be rubbish the next year. It won't just be relegation threatened clubs who might start crying halfway through the restart. Imagine Leeds collapse again and can't pick up a win and their top 2 place looks in serious danger <cough>
  12. I think to counter-act the empty stadiums and lack of fitness then every round of the Premier League should have a different rule (some stolen from Fifa). Week 1: Survival Mode - team loses a player when they score Week 2: Headers and Volleys: Only Headers and Volleys count as goals Week 3: Long Shots: Goals Outside the box count double Week 4: No Offsides: As it sounds Week 5: Multiball: Additional footballs introduced at various times Week 6: Legends: Every team must play a legendary striker/attacking midfielder and only their goals count. Week 7: Mascots: Entire team must wear be dressed in full club mascot costume. Week 8: Barbed Wire, Explosive Death Match: Barbed Wire around pitch - small explosive devices buried in the turf.
  13. If sign up to Marvel Unlimited for a year on their website that allows me to log-in on multiple devices, doesn't it? I accidentally let the free trial roll over via Itunes for a month which only seems to recognise me as subscriber on my iphone.
  14. What a mess and it very hard to fully disagree with anyone's positions on this referenced in that article. Be interesting to see exactly what sort of quality is served up in the German league today, but while the players will get fitter as they play games - any team or players reluctant to be back are hardly going to be giving 100% especially once their team has nothing to play for (and there will be a few where that is already the case). 'On the beach' replaced with 'Whats the point' or 'I shouldn't be here'. That article mentions managers concerned other teams might call games off over self interest, but I reckon you will also see teams moaning that their rivals played a game against someone who clearly no longer gave a shit (players not pressured to play/put the kids out) when they had to play a rival. Total mess - but not sure what the answer is. As Fry Crayola says - what you can't have is the leagues in the EFL all making decisions independently of each other even though their situations are different because of the financials. Fans are going to lose their clubs at the end of this and the FA and the Premier League and Sky are going to be seen as responsible if they aren't very careful although I'm not sure if it will actually matter to them, at least in the short term.
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