Casino Bonus Bagging

[Rog]

Yes that will certainly help, but they seem a little more proactive in cutting out the bonus hunters than other casinos.

[Guest kokyu]

# All bonus monies must be used to play at VC Casino

Rule no. 16 for their signup bonus. Does that mean "stake the bonus once" or something else?

[doola]

You need a big bankroll to do this, indeed. $1000 to start with, which is quite alot, and you need to know that you _can_ lose it all. Gambling is never bulletproof, even though you can come quite close, and everone who play on a casino or a poker site should now this.

The post wasen't ment to confuse anyone, just to explain the difference between a normal wagering bonus vs sticky bonus.

They get there by having a good software, support and bonus. Every rate isen't done by Bonus-Money.com internal, but by users we know. We are working on a rating system for users to auto vote, and we hope it will go live within a week or two. We will basically set the score on every casino to 5/10 with one vote at that, and registred users will be able to score once on every casino. It's not always good to have an auto voteing system due to the abuse risk, though, so we are not really sure if we can have it live for long yet.

If you think we higher the score by request from the casino/poker/sport sites, which it sounds like, your wrong indeed. It's true, however, that we've had few (one or two) sites asking what they need to do to get to the top 10, but we've never once replayed nor increased their score.

We dosen't get anything for increasing scores (we really dosen't get much for the affilites at all).

I hope you are satisfied with that answer?

EDIT: You are welcome to post rates at our forum between, which we will review and change the score of a site if needed.

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Just wanted to say that www.bonus-money.com now has a voting and a review system for the casino, poker and sport sites. Users can now vote and review directly. Thouse sites that hasen't been reviewed or voted on from a user will be instantly updated with the score the user gives it. The review, however, is for us to use for the abuse risk. A Blackjack strategy tool is availibe now as well.

Hopes this clears the debate about the score?

[Guest kokyu]

Just wanted to say that www.bonus-money.com now has a voting and a review system for the casino, poker and sport sites. Users can now vote and review directly. Thouse sites that hasen't been reviewed or voted on from a user will be instantly updated with the score the user gives it. The review, however, is for us to use for the abuse risk. A Blackjack strategy tool is availibe now as well.

Hopes this clears the debate about the score?

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That's what your site says, might want to check that out.

[doola]

That's what your site says, might want to check that out.

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Thanks, might been a problem while testing a poker odds tool we are working on. It should work now though.

[evil p]

Update on my whiny Coral nightmare - basically just completed the wager at £1 bets and ended up losing £35 overall which is obviously excellent compared to the -£100 I was on before. Still, on the £50 I put in, i was actually up about £20 until a freefall before the bonus came in. If i'd actually made a profit off of all this, I guess it wouldn't have been right.

Still! £75 saved! Thanks to those who recommended I carry on (ie everyone).

EDIT: or, £65. Being a bit optimistic there.

[evil p]

Another thing, this time concerning the Littlewoods bonus: i've just put in £25 and it's matched me to £50. Can I qualify for both the £25 signup bonus and the monthly £50 in the same month? Ie, play for a bonus of £75 for a wager of £1000. I can't see anything which says otherwise, but it all seems a little generous especially for a deposit of £25...

[Bushby]

Another thing, this time concerning the Littlewoods bonus:  i've just put in £25 and it's matched me to £50.  Can I qualify for both the £25 signup bonus and the monthly £50 in the same month?  Ie, play for a bonus of £75 for a wager of £1000.  I can't see anything which says otherwise, but it all seems a little generous especially for a deposit of £25...

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In short, I don't know. It's credited automatically though, so just try it.

[Guest kokyu]

I just did my first sticky bonus on PaddyPower. I had a rediculously bad run of luck, ended up losing my initial £50 deposit with £90 left to wager (this was at £1 a hand, nothing too extravagant). Deposited an extra £20, cleared the remaining wager requirement £2 down on that, for a total of £52 down. Got credited a £50 sticky bonus. Stuck all £68 (£50 sticky bonus plus £18 left over from £20 top-up) on one hand, and won, so I now have £136. I've put £70 in, and £50 has to stay, so am I right in thinking that if I withdraw £76, leaving the £50 sticky in the account, I'm all of £16 up?

What then, if anything, do I do with the remaining £50 sticky? Gamble it all on one hand again? Or go play slots or what?

[bazclef]

I just did my first sticky bonus on PaddyPower. I had a rediculously bad run of luck, ended up losing my initial £50 deposit with £90 left to wager (this was at £1 a hand, nothing too extravagant). Deposited an extra £20, cleared the remaining wager requirement £2 down on that, for a total of £52 down. Got credited a £50 sticky bonus. Stuck all £68 (£50 sticky bonus plus £18 left over from £20 top-up) on one hand, and won, so I now have £136. I've put £70 in, and £50 has to stay, so am I right in thinking that if I withdraw £76, leaving the £50 sticky in the account, I'm all of £16 up?

What then, if anything, do I do with the remaining £50 sticky? Gamble it all on one hand again? Or go play slots or what?

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Err, as far as i'm aware PaddyPower dont do sticky bonuses. It should be withdrawable after you've staked it through once.

[Guest kokyu]

If you are playing in Euro (€) or Pounds Sterling (£), this bonus can only be claimed by using the myCitadel payment method.

Please read these rules carefully and make sure that you fully understand them before agreeing to be bound by them.

This offer applies to FIRST TIME REAL MONEY PLAYERS, will be applied to their FIRST DEPOSIT ONLY, and cannot be combined with any other bonus or promotion. The PLAY BONUS will not be given for future deposits.

To qualify for this promotion, you must download and install the casino software, register for Real Play and deposit a minimum of $25 into your Real Play account.

Qualifying players will have their account credited with a 300% PLAY BONUS of up to $300. Any initial deposit of more than $100 will receive a $300 PLAY BONUS.

You are allowed only ONE ACTIVE ACCOUNT. Winnings will only be dispersed to players having one account. If you have more than one account, all winnings will be VOID. If the name on your account does not match the name on the credit card(s) used to make deposits to the account, all winnings in that account will be VOID. Any abuse or fraudulent activity with relation to your account or any bonuses awarded or offered, will cause your account to be blocked and any winnings will immediately be VOID.

Credits issued during the promotional period MUST be wagered FOUR (4) times the total amount deposited (credits purchased + promotional bonus) BEFORE making any withdrawal. (For example, if you play two hands of Poker and wager 5 credits on each, this represents a total of 10 credits wagered. If you win one of these hands and lose the other, your credit balance will remain the same; the amount wagered (10 credits) counts toward fulfilling your promotional obligation).

All PLAY BONUS credits are for wagering purposes only. No withdrawal will be honored for an amount less than the PLAY BONUS. Upon your FIRST withdrawal (regardless of the number of deposits), any amount up to the equivalent value of the PLAY BONUS will be deducted from your play balance or winnings prior to settlement. The first credits wagered will be deducted from your deposit(s) rather than from the PLAY BONUS.

If the casino deems that you have wagered and risked only the BONUS in order to pass the audit, the casino reserves the right to void any winnings resulting from these wagers as well as the bonus itself, and will refund your purchases.

By claiming this promotion, all forms of Craps, Roulette, Baccarat, or Sicbo cannot be played until you have cashed in after wagering 4X the total amount deposited or your play balance reaches zero. Failure to comply will void any and all winnings, as well as play bonus credits, and may result in your account being locked at the sole discretion of the casino.

All withdrawals will be subject to audit before being processed. GoldenPalace.com reserves all rights to void bonuses or any winnings for failed audits. GoldenPalace.com reserves the right to modify these rules or cancel this promotion at its sole discretion.

In any case, a first withdrawal must occur within a period of 14 days from the date said bonus is credited to your account, or such bonus credits will be deducted from your play balance at our sole discretion.

This bonus is subject to our official Terms and Conditions, which shall be binding in all cases. You must comply at all times with the standards and/or laws in any jurisdiction where you are located or residing.

If you have any questions regarding our policies, please contact our 24 HR Customer Service Department for assistance.

GoldenPalace.com reserves the right to lock accounts at any time, if registration information is discovered to be incorrect or misleading, or for any other reason it may deem sufficient at its sole discretion. GoldenPalace.com is restricted to individuals of legal age only. Minors cannot play.

All promotions are available only once per person, family, household address, e-mail address, credit card number, and environments where computers are shared (university, fraternity, school, public library, workplace, etc.).

This promotional bonus may not be used in combination with any other promotion currently offered by GoldenPalace.com.

By participating in this bonus, you agree to be bound by these rules and to the decisions of GoldenPalace.com whose decisions are final and binding in all respects.

Any applicable taxes and fees in connection with any winnings awarded to you are your sole responsibility.

That's a sticky bonus right? Wager 4x deposit+bonus to enable withdrawal, but stake the whole lot ($400 if you deposit $100) on one hand of blackjack just beforehand and take your winnings, if any?

[Rog]

Uhh, I'm at work so I can't check, but what PP bonus is this? Signup? I know that they are planning to change their bonus system this month and I haven't examined the new t&c but PP haven't offered a sticky bonus to my knowledge.

Are you sure you don't just have to play through the £50 to make it withdrawable? Email their CS or play one £1 hand and see if your withdrawable balance changes.

Edit, damn my slow typing

[Rog]

Those are t&c from a different casino. Confusion is me.

[Guest kokyu]

Err, as far as i'm aware PaddyPower dont do sticky bonuses. It should be withdrawable after you've staked it through once.

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50 free chips for new accounts

1. Offer applies to over 18’s only.

2. Offer is open only to the residents of those jurisdictions where participation in paddypowercasino.com is legal.

3. Offer applies to the first casino deposit of at least £50 ("qualifying deposit"). If your casino deposit is less than £50 you will not qualify.

4. Maximum free credits is £50 per customer.

5. You must stake at least £500. Please note that stakes on Euro Roulette, Roulette with French/Neighbour bets, and Craps will not contribute towards the £500 stakes required to obtain the bonus.

6. You must e-mail us at support@paddypowercasino.com when you have satisfied the bets/turnover criteria and the free £50 chips will be credited within 24 hours.

7. Bonus chips may not be transferred or withdrawn from paddypowercasino.com.

8. Paddypowercasino.com reserves the right to withdraw or amend this offer at any time.

9. Normal paddypowercasino.com terms and conditions apply.

10. Paddypowercasino.com reserves the right to withhold bonus payments where the terms of this offer are not fulfilled, or where paddypowercasino.com believes the offer has been abused. The decision of the Casino Manager is final.

Rule 7: You do not talk about Fight Club.

I thought this meant it was a sticky? I've just been playing normal ones up til now, this was my first "sticky", if indeed it was one.

[Rog]

It is difficult to tell the difference, as sticky bonses will say the same thing, but in this case it just means that you need to play the bonus through once.

[Guest kokyu]

That wording is shit to be fair. I've just transfered the lot from paddypowercasino.com to paddypower.com (the sports branch) and withdrawn it all too, so total profit £86. I was just very lucky that I won that all-or-nothing hand, I would have just calmly played through the £50 bonus once if I'd known, hope to only lose a few quid in the course of that, and come out £10 down or something similar. Admittedly the end result is far better now than what I would have come out with had I taken the sensible route, but it could easily have gone oh-so-wrong. Thanks for the help Rog and bazclef, what d'ya think of that golden palace one?

[Rog]

The Golden Palace IS a sticky bonus, and a pretty good one too. It wasn't that generous when I played there!

[bazclef]

Yea the wording on Paddy is dodgy, damn these casinos and their hefty T&Cs.

Thank fuck you asked before trying to double up!

[Guest kokyu]

I did double up though, and won, luckily.

Word of warning guys and gals, keep a track record of what you're doing. I thought my spreadsheet was comprehensive, but there's still a few bits of information missing and I'm like "well, where the hell has that money gone/come from?" Spend an hour tonight working out exactly how much has gone in and out and from where folks, you'll thank me later.

[johnj]

+You need a crazy account with mycitadel for golden palace, im gonna be doing it soon, 100 down for a400 bet? yes please. just gotta wait for them oneys to come back in.

[Bushby]

Does the thought of losing £100 in about 10 seconds not worry you?

[johnj]

not with all the profit ive made no

[Guest kokyu]

Does the thought of losing £100 in about 10 seconds not worry you?

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That's not the thought though, the thought is "this is a large bet that has a 50% chance of coming off, and it doesn't matter if I win or lose, because statistically the more I do it the more my win/lose rate averages out to 50/50. In this case, I'm 25% of my investment up across the board".

Not really got the same ring to it but you see my point.

[Guest kokyu]

The sporting odds one, stake £50, get £50 bonus, which then has to be staked 20 times before withdrawal, i.e. £1000 staked to withdraw the £50 bonus. Does that £1000 count towards the £5000 stake requirement to qualify for the £100 bonus? That £100 has to be wagered 20 times to withdraw as well, and seems altogether like a bad return considering the time investment, but if that £1000 counted towards the £5k that would improve it slightly.

[mrben09]

The sporting odds one, stake £50, get £50 bonus, which then has to be staked 20 times before withdrawal, i.e. £1000 staked to withdraw the £50 bonus. Does that £1000 count towards the £5000 stake requirement to qualify for the £100 bonus? That £100 has to be wagered 20 times to withdraw as well, and seems altogether like a bad return considering the time investment, but if that £1000 counted towards the £5k that would improve it slightly.

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Yes it does. Paid me out over a monkey at the weekend (see the good wins thread).

But the way it works is:

50 in play 50 get 50 bonus.

You need to play 20x the bonus to cash out, and this will not happen while your own cash is in there, so take out your cash balance.

Then if you play 1000 with the 50 bonus you can cash out. However you should be up a shitload by then, and should be able to carry on till 5000 (eg 4000 more). Then you get another 100. Use the same drill again, eg cash out, etc.

It only took me 5 hours to get to this stage (however towards the end i was staking 25 a hand, and doubling/splitting, etc).

If you do get this far save the 100 bonus for another day, i didn't, and was that fucked by then that i spunked the lot quicktime.

[Guest kokyu]

It only took me 5 hours to get to this stage (however towards the end i was staking 25 a hand, and doubling/splitting, etc).

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You're asking for trouble there. Even the smallest variance down and you're tits up. I'm only "bagging" bonuses that are mathematically and statistically likely to come off, that usually means play £1/£2 a hand. Thanks for the info, but the way I play (safe and steady) I'm unlikely to bother going for the extra £100 bonus, seeing as you have to wager it 40 times, whereas the £50 one is only 20x.

[mrben09]

The only reasdon i was staking high, was that the game was practically giving money away,i was that hot.

Like i say, once i cashed that out, the 100 went quick, but i didn't give a fuck by then. Hence my warning at the end.

[tyler]

What's up with the BlueSQ bonus, they seem to be offering the same as they did last year and have just changed the closing date to 28th Feb but the t&cs still say it ends 31st Dec 05

tut tut

[Guest kokyu]

Quick question: in your opinion (or certain knowledge) does opening an account registered for your home address but playing from uni halls prevent anyone else from those halls from registering an account (albeit with their home address but playing from the same premises)? It's just some say "any place where computers are shared" only qualify for one account (and it specifically cites universities) but I'm thinking they're referring to like multi-computer study areas right? Ta

Edit: Oh, and what's myCitadel like? Why does GoldenPalace offer a bigger bonus for depositing with it?

[Pob]

I told my mate to try out some bonus bagging a while back, as he's pretty hard up. Just got an email about his first experience. It's well funny:

Mate, I've just had a hellish experience playing internet blackjack. It took me an hour to register and load the f ** ker onto my computer (the dial up must have been really slow). I almost gave up buut when I finally got to play things took a turn for the worse.

You made £120, I told my mate at work, he made £80. I printed out your crib sheet and followed it exactly but still only made £19.

Worst of all, it took me five hours of solid playing to get through 667 hands. It really was like doing a menial job and getting paid menial wages. It left me shattered and depressed, with a bad back and sweat pouring off my brow. It was midnight before the misery was over.

Still, I made it out relatively unscathed as at one point I was down to £47 of my own money. Anna kept coming in and berating me for wasting money and turning into a gambling addict. I tried to reason with her that I needed to play all 667 hands to allow the odds advantage to swing in my favour but the hard financial truth belied my mealy mouthed utterances. Only a run of blackjacks, a few lucky doubles and splits saved me from making a loss. It probably made about £2.75 an hour, but if you factor in labour costs, heating, lighting and a penny-a-minute internet charges, I probably lost around £35!

After a day at work I'd been staring at a PC from 9am till midnight. What a day! Never again.