bigbrick Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Tesla 'breakdowns' staged? in the 3 or 4 years i have seen the Tesla at Goodwood, it only just managed a single run up the hill this year and sat in the pits for every year previously. it seems a tad unreliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawp Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 in the 3 or 4 years i have seen the Tesla at Goodwood, it only just managed a single run up the hill this year and sat in the pits for every year previously.it seems a tad unreliable. If it was at Goodwood it wouldn't have been the finished product that rolled off the line this year. There hasn't been anything in the usual channels of any real-world Teslas breaking down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealjohnpeat Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Tesla 'breakdowns' staged? A fair bit of what happens on Top Gear is 'not entirely what it seems' - it's primarily an entertainment show and more popular as a result of it. Anyone taking TG's "reviews" as buying advice is like someone taking Zero Punctuation as buying advice for games - regarless of the content, TG was a good thing for Tesla and their moaning about it is just MORE publicity (and a sign they're touchy about their car!!) A LOT of cars breakdown on their track I imagine - they're treat pretty harshly. I used to know a press officer at BMW and he said the state some cars came back from reviewers was fairly shocking and TG was amongst the worst. 55 miles on a track would actually be pretty decent for an electric car tho - it's hardly intended to work there... TG regularly gets into 'spats' with people too - Ultima make a mental V8 powered madmanwagon which DESTROYS anything TG have tested - but TG won't have it on the show for some reason (probably because a fibreglass kitcar blowing everything into the weeds isn't really very entertaining). http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/CARS/news/37372.html It's time is astonishing tho - over FOUR SECONDS faster than the Gumpert - that's like a WEEK in racing terms... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roskelld Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Vietnam Special is a 75 minute special apparently, a detiled synopsis is below Really looking forward to this episode. I did the same thing early this year, albeit from the top of Vietnam down. It's an amazing journey, if not scary as fuck in some places. Ho Chi Minh is fucking terrifying the sheer number of other vehicles that you have to compete with. There's only really two choices of road for a good part of the journey, I took the mountain pass, which is inland, as opposed to the more coastal route. I hope they take the same, the views are mind blowing and the curves of the empty roads are so nice to drive. Plus, it's great to take a break every now and then to play with some snotty nosed kids. p.s The Helmet was the last in the shop and really wouldn't have been my first choice. I got the dirtiest face wearing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthSquirrel Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/CARS/news/37372.htmlIt's time is astonishing tho - over FOUR SECONDS faster than the Gumpert - that's like a WEEK in racing terms... Woah. There's a guy round the back of me who spends his weekends in his garage building one of those. A nice yellow one. He's almost finished it now but I didn't know what it was until i clicked that link. Any idea how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbo Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 WHAT THE HELL? This episode was on last week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morcs Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Some awards special this turned out to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossco Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 I thought we had a new episode tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Er, no, we weren't supposed to have a new episode. The next one is supposed to be the Vietnam special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbo Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 But why show the same episode twice in a row? Why not another program, of a Best Of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFly Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Just a repeat on Dave where Hammond and May with a lot of built a rocket out of a reliant robin, a great episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy_Sephy Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 I just watched that too, great stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFly Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 I cant believe how well they actually did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoothy Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Explanation of Tesla "running out of juice" incident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Rob Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Explanation of Tesla "running out of juice" incident That's the lamest excuse I've ever heard. Why not do the same to every single car they test, by showing what would happen if it ran out of petrol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanR Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 That's the lamest excuse I've ever heard. Why not do the same to every single car they test, by showing what would happen if it ran out of petrol? because it doesn't take HOURS to fill up a petrol car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy_Sephy Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Because it's much easier to fill a car with petrol and they were making a point about the difficulty in, and time needed to charge it up. You can fill a car with petrol quite easily even if you break down on the side of the road. You can't charge the Tesla if you break down on the side of the road. Nothing would be proved by having or pretending a car run out of petrol during a test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradigm Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 It was still misleading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy_Sephy Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 It's misleading to suggest it won't go very far compared to a car? I understand that saying it ran out of juice on the track when it didn't is misleading, but I don't see how it affects the actual review or peoples impressions of the car (which ultimately is the only thing that is affected by it). I imagine plenty of petrol cars run out of juice during testing, but they aren't trying to prove a point with those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Rob Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Nothing would be proved by having or pretending a car run out of petrol during a test Nothing is proved by pretending the car ran out of charge when it didn't. I don't disagree with the conclusions reached; I fully accept that battery-powered cars are still at the 'hopelessly impractical' stage. But I don't think it's right to state that something happened during the test that didn't actually happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngchol Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 because it doesn't take HOURS to fill up a petrol car? It's misleading to claim that the car ran out of charge, when it hadn't run out of charge. It implies that the low-charge warnings were not functioning, which falsely suggests that the car is dangerous on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanR Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 It's misleading to claim that the car ran out of charge, when it hadn't run out of charge. It implies that the low-charge warnings were not functioning, which falsely suggests that the car is dangerous on the road. It IS dangerous. You can't hear it coming, unlike a combustion-engine-powered automobile. :huge winky: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 It's misleading to suggest it won't go very far compared to a car? I understand that saying it ran out of juice on the track when it didn't is misleading, but I don't see how it affects the actual review or peoples impressions of the car (which ultimately is the only thing that is affected by it). They went on about how Tesla say it will go for 200 miles (or whatever) between charges and then said it ran out after 55 (or whatever), saying that Tesla got their figures wrong. Which was a lie and very much affects peoples impression of the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Well they've said it didn't run out of charge mid lap, but that doesn't mean they got 200 miles out of it. Perhaps they had done 55 miles when the warning light came on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawp Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Yeah, that's properly shit. They implied both cars they had broke down or ran out of juice. Journalism from a News International employee right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackign Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 My route to work recently has taken me through an Audi garage. I can't but think "you fucing cocks" every single time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawp Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 My route to work recently has taken me through an Audi garage.I can't but think "you fucing cocks" every single time. Through an Audi garage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wools Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Through an Audi garage? And fucing a cock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackign Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Through an Audi garage? As in using my legs to physically take a shortcut through the carpack of an Audi garage (Garage being a place where a person may buy a car that they like if they bring the required finances) And typos, the internet is full of them. So fuck off you cocks. (Who apparently can't read anyway, I said "you", not "a") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawp Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 You must have this place confused with Games Radar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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