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Space Renegade Ulala

Space Renegade Ulala

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I'm not having a go at you personally, hon, my point is it's akin to writing off Blackwing Lair because the drakes drop crap half the time and the guys before them dropped Venomous Totems and Runes of Metamorphis for the last 6 weeks. 'So what if Nefarian has ace stuff, I'm not bothering if I have to go through all this first.' That's virtually what it amounts to.

Vek'lor - http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/mob.html?wmob=15276

Vek'nilash - http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/mob.html?wmob=15275

Ouro - http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/mob.html?wmob=15517

C'Thun - http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/mob.html?wmob=15727

Ignoring the issue of stuff for healers to level in, between the four of those guys, are you really saying there was almost nothing there to benefit your raid at the time?

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The raid itself really was fine, it was just the riding on their coattails aspect that got to me and I felt something like a fifth wheel throughout it all. We shall see.

Nothing makes you feel a part of a guild like getting a guild (or server ;)) first kill. So here's hoping Chant's divine presence tips the balance and persuades a certain old god that it's time to hand over the reins.

What's worrying is that you actually like Skeram ... the boss I dread most due to the horrible line-of-sight issues on the stairs, his weird aggro on each split and the way that a messy kill on him can set the mood for the rest of the evening. I find Huhuran rather fun in comparison, being the place DPS casters get to really test their damage gear.

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http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=21839 is very shiny, about the only thing I really get terribly excited about... same with most AQ stuff, to me personally, is that some of it is marginal upgrades but arguably not that worth it.

Two bosses into Naxx and you can get http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=22942 + http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=19312

So, hmhmhm.

The thing is, AQ40 does have good DPS loot and Chim *did* go there, ok so didn't spend years there and all but people still got loot, experienced the fights, downed the Twin Emperors. And C'Thun is still going to die, so you could say about missing out on the sort of enjoyment aspect of seeing it all but we won't, because we will kill him.

Then Naxx appeared and Chimaera started doing well there, with arguably better rewards.

So why spend ages in AQ40 if it becomes not so necessary? I wasn't in the guild at the time but the decision was made not to go ahead to C'Thun, maybe because people weren't enjoying AQ and if you're not enjoying something why do it? PinkMoon seems to indicate that a lot of people didn't like it much. Of course, I know some did, but how can you *ever* please everyone? Why condemn that decision? Yeah, ok, maybe if Chim never even went to AQ, but that wasn't the case...

They were ahead of us. Me, Ulala, Cowfields, and so when we'd seen all there was to see in BWL, there was the option basically 'hmm, AQ40 or Naxx?' I suppose. But as Chimaera were ahead, they've now done both...

It's not like ignoring BWL like you say Ulala, because they didn't ignore the hypothetical BWL.

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Mr.Jeff

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Do chimera still do bwl and how fast are they managing it? I mean, if you're doing bwl fast enough you might want to conisder the possibilty of going across to silithus and seeing how fast you can nuke your way through that.

Additionally, to add a sweetner to the pot, you coul put in place some rules that any nexus's gained from disenchantments in aq40 get sold on the horde ah and then total value of all of them being sold is split among 40. Granted it won't be that much but every little helps™.

Just an idea. ;)

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Aye we do. Speed varies. BWL is open to 'PUG' members who want to buy epics that would otherwise be disenchanted. So often there is some explaining involved for them ;)

It's about 2hr30-3hours though depending on the above and how many AFKs etc :D

The thing is, BWL night is also a night off for many people. Chimaera has some casual members too who come along, which means that those who raid Naxx who are all finished in BWL can happily have the night off raiding, and making it an AQ venture too would mean bringing some more of the Naxx raiders in/losing the 'PUG's etc... always time involved with something like that.

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therealjohnpeat

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The whole "Why Chim don't do Naxx" thing is getting tired - it's dead easy, I'll repeat it only wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaannnnce - so pay attention.....

We went there, we got some nice loot but we disenchanted a LOT of loot - even in the first few runs.

We found it profoundly boring for the most part - it's not that difficult upto the pre-Twemps trash (since nerfed) and the Twemps themselves and we were disenchanting more loot than we were keeping.

Once most people had the CC/BoN rep they needed for rewards, Naxxramas was available and it's loot is superior in EVERY POSSIBLE WAY as far as the overall raid group is concerned.

We tried doing BWL (can be done in 150 mins) and then AQ - but by the time you reach the Twin Emperors you have a raid group who are losing focus just when you need it most - and hacking thru the SHIT between the AQ door and them is just pointless for the most part.

This compares to Naxx where the challenges are also FAR more varied and the loot is spectacular for the most part - it's a totally different ballgame really - hardly even the same sport...

Once we'd done Naxx for a bit we went back and killed the Twemps - mainly because we had people who needed to hand in their Regalias etc.

So - we're progressing thru Naxx by this time - we're actually getting Server firsts over an Alliance guild who are months ahead of us in raid experience and equipment terms - and TBC is coming which will render both AQ and NAXX redundant in the blink of an eye.

Can we kill Kel Thuzard before that happens - it's worth a poke for sure - but we can't do that AND C'Thun at the same time so we do KT first - and if we pull that off, we kick CT in the eye and BANG - Atiesh.

p.s. I should add that Chants belief that Naxx items are quickly replaced in TBC is, for the most part, wrong - if the stuff I've seen is typical.

Guns are not so good for most Hunters (other than Dwarves who get racial benefit) thanks to the lack of decent ammo carriers with +haste - I'm not grinding AV rep to 'stand still' on stats ;)

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Space Renegade Ulala

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As far as disenchanting goes, though, we dissed stuff almost from day one in Blackwing Lair, you're always going to get a fair degree of stuff no one wants, even from Nefarian. Anyway, we'll just have to agree to disagree. The main thing is to do whatever makes things fun for you. I'm something of a purist so I'd quite like to finish this challenge before moving on to the next.

What no one but the most hideously unchic and/or colour blind moron can deny is that the tasteful wine red Doomcaller looks a hell of a lot nicer than fucking bad brown acid casualty Plagueheart. The 60s are over, man.

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Otherwise, give it up.

Well Chimaera seem to have, so I guess I'll just shut up about it from now on. And our drops actually werent that bad, as a good amount of people grabbed gear that was clearly an upgrade for them, like Grohog for example. Sheepdog and Outrunner had started getting the tier 2.5 gear, but thats not possible now, despite it being a nice alternative to the tier 3 set, same for the other healer classes.

And last BWL, more than half the loot got dissed, despite having pugs, so saying we dont diss stuff in BWL as much as AQ40 is wrong. Compared to Nax, true, though almost all those random Epics we got in Nax got dissed, which boggled me at the time, but now I realise that Grimheim wants enhancement gear (which he cant get), Dringol is saving for the mace from KT, Sheep I have no idea why (but I think he wasnt there when they dropped?). Also it wont be long before everone has the bracers, belt and boots, so they'll be kinda left on the corpse. Same with the shoulders I'd wager.

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therealjohnpeat

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This isn't about set bonuses, it's about style. I'd rather be a gnome than swan about in something that wouldn't look out of place on the cover of Sgt Fucking Pepper. Orange and green should never - ever - be seen, darling.

Whilst I like my characters to look half-decent - this is a combat game, not Barbie Dress-Up Adventures :)

Felheart is HIDEOUS - however it's also possibly the best T3 armour in terms of stats and set bonuses - it's possible it's ugly simply because they wanted to apologies to other classes for not doing half-as-well with their T3 stats ;)

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Space Renegade Ulala

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There's always time for Barbie's Dress Up Adventures, though I hear the Horse Adventure was actually the best of the bunch. In any event, the Autobot Jazz summed things up best:

"Do it with style or don't bother doing it."

If only they'd let tailors amend their armour...the pink & black spy suit from SC5 2 would be ideal for...pink & blackness.

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And last BWL, more than half the loot got dissed, despite having pugs, so saying we dont diss stuff in BWL as much as AQ40 is wrong.

I don't recall anyone saying that we dissed less stuff in BWL than in AQ40. Not sure where you got that idea from. BWL is a fun-run which allows people to pick up random bits of kit they've missed to date and earn 40g. It also gives wasters like me a night off and provides plenty of Nexus for guild cash, which goes back into potions etc, meaning less farming for everyone. It's a stress-free, highly lucrative few hours.

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I don't recall anyone saying that we dissed less stuff in BWL than in AQ40. Not sure where you got that idea from. BWL is a fun-run which allows people to pick up random bits of kit they've missed to date and earn 40g. It also gives wasters like me a night off and provides plenty of Nexus for guild cash, which goes back into potions etc, meaning less farming for everyone. It's a stress-free, highly lucrative few hours.

My mistake then, I thought someone mentioned that.

There are people still needing stuff from AQ40 though which could increase healing/dps or whatever, but well, its all gonna be irrelevant I guess in about a month or so.

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My mistake then, I thought someone mentioned that.

There are people still needing stuff from AQ40 though which could increase healing/dps or whatever, but well, its all gonna be irrelevant I guess in about a month or so.

I'll tell you what to do. Stick a thread on the Chimaera forum. Ask how many people theoretically fancy a weekly trip to AQ40. Get some idea of numbers. For the record, you can count me in. I still enjoy my raiding and don't care too much where we go.

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Space Renegade Ulala

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Some of the stuff you get from the trading card 'loot cards'...

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More here!

How utterly bizarre (boomtish) - I was wondering this very afternoon whatever happened to that whole kaboodle with the collecting cards and items you could get from them. The turtle's quite sweet and the firework display trinket tempting but no, just NO.

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