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3 hours ago, Sarlaccfood said:


It was all mags. The PlayStation ones fucking hated 2D games too.  
 

In fact I bet loads of people on this forum agreed with them. Look at some of the reactions sub-60fps games get on here for instance.

 

Jesus Edge hated 2D games that weren't Japanese shoot-em-ups.

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12 hours ago, Gambit said:

Regarding the latest Back Page Pod.

 

 

I never had a Dreamcast when it was alive, so didn't buy any of the magazines. Were they all as batshit insane as this quote? :blink:


I feel like one aspect of this that Sam and Matt didn’t address was how the PlayStation brand in the 90s was part of a wider lifestyle movement that centred around music, clubbing and lad culture (amongst other things) - of which I’m probably not saying anything we don’t all already know.
 

But what you may not know or remember is how the crushing of Sega by Sony during the 32-bit generation pushed them towards an all-out marketing and branding campaign focused squarely on the mainstream audience that identified with Playstation - remember how they spunked masses of cash on sponsoring Arsenal and PSG? Bearing in mind that the Dreamcast played host to games like Chu Chu Rocket and Sonic Adventure at the time, it was quite an incongruous campaign, in hindsight. 
 

Anyway, this was an audience that was new to games, so it stands to reason that the mags at the time wanted to focus on the 3D wow-factor that PlayStation had ushered in, while doing down 2D - I don’t doubt that writers at the time really did believe that 2D was a thing of the past, it’s hard to underestimate how powerful PlayStation and the move to 3D was at the time - and all of this was underpinned by a wider immersion in the popular culture of the 90s. 2D games were NOT cool. 
 

Which brings us to ODM, or Official Dreamcast Magazine. I read Sega Saturn Magazine religiously at the time (you might say obsessed - I even used to call their offices on a semi-frequent basis, and I think there was a veiled admonishment published in one issue aimed at me - possibly!), so when it died and ODM came on the scene I immediately continued reading, but it could not have been a more different publication. They had articles on fashion and music in amongst the games content, for example, and the tone was way more ‘too cool for school’ compared to its quite juvenile, geeky predecessor. It was a magazine that sat somewhat uncomfortably with the Dreamcast itself; which existed as a way to play arcade-perfect ports of Sega and Capcom games - with their blue skies and whacky, broken English announcers - as much as it was for anything else. 
 

Perhaps that goes some way towards addressing ODM in particular. It changed over the years, especially as it brought in more established writers, but those early issues make for some unusual reading.
 

On a slightly related note, as Sam and Matt are on record as not being particularly up to speed on Sega in general, I’d really love it if they could get a guest in to talk more about those games and consoles for a special episode - Richard Leadbetter would be the obvious choice, given that he’s at least still a journo working in the industry doing Digital Foundry, but I’m sure there are lots of people from a variety of mags who they could tap. Sega is what I grew up on, it’s the one thing I wish there could be more of on the Backpage. 

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Two topics destined to define 2022 dominate the convo this week: the MS/ActiBlizz buyout, and the phenom that is Wordle.

 

Also featured:
We talk about Word Forward, Gravity Chase’s compliments to the genre staples and the wonderful world of photgraphing good boys in Pupperazzi.

 

SHOWNOTES:
00:01:03 – MS buy Activision Blizzard
00:11:50 – Streets of Rage 2
00:18:13 – Word Forward
00:21:53 – Wordle
00:30:48 – Gran Turismo Sport
00:45:02 – Gravity Chase
00:52:27 – Street Fighter II Plus
00:54:10 – Pupperazzi
01:00:45 – MHG chat: YouTube’s Advertising

 

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12 minutes ago, Graham S said:

I’m still having a great time catching up with a year of The Back Page. For anyone wanting to know where I’m currently up to, I’m here. 
 

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Oh man so good.
 

It’s like when a TV show says “okay they know the characters now, let’s hit them with the lore”

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103 - Teabagging The Radio Times

 

 

 

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Bradley morphs into a pinball wizard, whilst Stu says Lacuna (@digitales_games) Matata . I's a wonderful phrase. Also @Eko_Software's Rugby 22, @astroneergame on Switch & plenty more.

 

SHOWNOTES: #

00:02:48 - Super Ninja-Kun

00:16:50 - Cities Skylines: Airports DLC

00:24:47 - Lacuna #

00:29:04 - Rugby 22

00:39:03 - Astroneer

00:45:50 - MHG chat: Pinball

 

https://mhg.podbean.com/e/103-teabagging-the-radio-times/

 

 

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My Wii Draft Picks:

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Multiplayer: Wii Sports

RPG: Skyward Sword

Platformer: Super Mario Galaxy

Sports/Fighting: Mario Kart Wii
Shooter: Metroid Prime Trilogy
Motionplus: Wii Sports Resort 
WiiWare/Re-Release: Lost Winds 
Puzzle/Survival Horror: World of Goo
Wildcard: SIn & Punishement Star Successor
Freepick: Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition

 

There's no way you can neglect the appeal of Wii Sports, gotta get the customers  with Resort being to many an unplayed sequel.

 

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Good Back Page Pod this week where they try and create their own Gamepass competitors. 

 

Typical draft format, 10 categories as usual although the format is perhaps slightly undone by the final category which is the entire library of games on a single console. Which, once you've picked that one is basically going to overpower all your other choices! Actually there were a few big categories such as that one and also an entire gaming franchise (Mario etc.) and a continually updated MMO game. But once you've chosen those ones, the single choice for licenced game doesn't have as much weight attached!

 

Anyway, amazingly Matthew bossed it this week. Definitely had the best service in the end. Spoilers to follow:

 

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Sam got in early with the PS2 as console library which, as they are prone to do, is somewhat prioritising games which are difficult to play now over games you'd actually want to play now. Matthew then took the 360 library which is probably the correct choice. Loads of classic 360 games that you'd definitely want to replay whereas PS2 games might be looking a bit long in the tooth now. Think 360 covers the first four Halo games (Halo Anniversary), got Gears of War games, Crackdown, Forza, Banjo Nuts and Bolts, Amped 3 as the exclusives as well as all of the great third party games released - the Burnouts, Call of Duty, some GTAs, Far Cry's etc. A really strong library pick and I think much better, for playing these days, than the PS2 library. 

 

Matthew then did the icing on the cake with Mario as franchise series (which I think includes the mainline series games such as World, 64, Galaxy, Odyssey and I also probably think things like 3D world), BOTW as Metacritic 90+ game and exclusive future game as GTA  6. Sam took the Zelda series which is good but not as interested as the Mario series, took BOTW 2 as future game but really by this point the draft was won as no one is going to change their vote because Sam took GCN's Rogue Leader as his licensed game (Matt too PS5 Spiderman - a much better pick anyway). 

 

But basically, it was effectively won with the 360 library pick and further bolstered by Mario franchise and BOTW.  We were all waiting for Matthew to trip over his own tail with his usual Red Faction, Indiana Jones, some unknown water game you've never heard of and never want to play but frankly even the shittiest dodgy choices can't take away from his early strong foundations of 360, Mario and BOTW. 

 

Hard to beat the 360 library really although I think the current Switch library is a consideration - it is an incredibly strong library. PS2 for the basis of a modern day Gamepass competitor service? Nah. 

 

Hopefully they will get round to a Desert Island style draft - 10 games you'd choose to take with you to a desert island to spend the rest of your days playing. That'd be an interesting listen. 

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13 minutes ago, Graham S said:

I'm halfway through this draft and I think Matthew's head's gone, the manager might need to bring him off.

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Yeah, thankfully he got his important picks in first before the Curse of Castle once again struck. 

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Gamepass Draft

 

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'Shitting the bed in 3...2...1' 

 

I tweeted them this, but I did enjoy the juxtaposition of sagely nodding along to the idea of a carefully curated subscription service one minute and witnessing the mad rush to pick two of the most gigantic console game libraries the next. 

 

Voted for Matthew. Silent Hills was nearly enough of a pull but the quality was just better on The Golden Ticket. 

 

Also, I know we're not supposed to take it into consideration, but the prospect of eternal life and/or hand delivered CEO pick 'n mix is difficult to ignore. 

 

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Backpage:

 

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ETERNAL LIFE!?

 

:lol::lol::lol:
 

 

Hard to decide this week as the choices encompass so much, it’s hard to get my head around. I think Sam went a bit too retro as he suspected and agree with people here that the 360 catalogue is likely to have aged a bit better. Not to say I wouldn’t jump at the chance to play PS2 games on Spartacus if it ever becomes reality, so it was still a great choice but 360 just about pips it.

 

Mario games I’m more likely to want to jump in and play rather than Zelda. And yeah the next GTA is a must. Right that’s me decided then, off to Twitter to vote. 

 

 

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Enjoyed the Simon Parkin episode of The Back Page because it was nostalgic for very specific things that probably only a few people cared about and most of them were probably on here. The Edge forum. The Joao/Ste/Taurus era of Edge. The Girl Issue. New Games Journalism. Cex Retro. Edge Retro specials. The boom times of Eurogamer. 

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Latest from us: 105 - Blind Fury

 

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Brad & Stu share their good news and positive vibes, including – but not limited to – playing Panic Barn’s superior Not Tonight 2 & Marvelous Inc.’s Daemon x Machina.

It’s good news all round with new jobs and a long battle to get PiP all coming to conclusions.

 

SHOWNOTES:

00:04:13 – The Super Shinobi – @SEGA

00:21:27 – Not Tonight 2 – @PanicBarn

00:36:02 – Daemon x Machina

 

https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-2hw7s-11a6219

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1 hour ago, Graham S said:

Enjoyed the Simon Parkin episode of The Back Page because it was nostalgic for very specific things that probably only a few people cared about and most of them were probably on here. The Edge forum. The Joao/Ste/Taurus era of Edge. The Girl Issue. New Games Journalism. Cex Retro. Edge Retro specials. The boom times of Eurogamer. 

 

I think there's only so much new stuff to say about the past before you're repeating yourself, so I'm happy that Sam and Matt don't do too many episodes about mags - however! - they are easily the most fun and engaging episodes they put out.  It brings out a fun energy in everyone that's very contagious, and it is sort of the MO of the whole show.

 

It's nostalgia, yes, but there's also the curiosity of wanting to know how the sausage is made, and hear about the mad-cap jollies the journos used to go on.  Which episode was it where the contributor talked about going to the Bond villain-esque Konami HQ?  Possibly the episode with Dan Dawkins?

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Yes the Konami story was one of the best anecdotes, as was Edge removing the lightbulbs and wearing sunglasses. I’m mostly not here for the ins and outs of magazine production, partly because I didn’t read their mags at the time, I came for big lists of games and stupid drafts, but now I’m into the deep lore I’m happy to hear about Luigi heads and ill-advised craft projects too. 

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Really enjoyed this week's TCGS. I've been thinking of visiting Centre Parks later in the year but didn't quite it enjoy it as much as everyone else did when I went a few years back. Also, all the promotional material I've seen about it recently makes the facilities seem a bit sterile. I was meant to do some research on it at the weekend but time go away from me so it was really useful to hear some thoughts. 

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On 24/02/2022 at 11:10, minstrels said:

I'm serious, I genuinely thought they were just recounting their recent trip to Centre Parcs? To be fair, I am clearly an idiot.

 

Oh was it a Switch Sports thing, what with the bowling chat...

You thought Mat James Sean and Dave went to Centre Parcs together and played Chambara? And were forced to play tennis with randoms? And that Dave didn't enjoy bowling because it felt different to how it used to on previous trips to Centre Parcs? 

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