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Superb race. I woke up at 6-ish this morning cos I was so excited and it certainly didn't disappoint.

I agree with Martin Brundle about Nico Rosberg being man of the race. I wasn't expecting too much from him at the start of the year, mainly because of his performance at the begining of his GP2 season last year - it took him a while to find his confidence. But save for his first lap error, he was driving like a seasoned pro already - his hustling of DC in particular was fantastic. I hope Frank's got him on a long-term, water-tight contract cos, as I said earlier in the thread, you've got a world champion right there, no question.

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I see they've still got the discrepancy between the commentators and the on screen lap counter, with the former counting forwards and the other backwards.

"We're on lap three!" shouts the bloke, whilst the counter reads "64/67" or whatever.

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Guess I'm alone in feeling that the opening credits were more exciting than the race itself?.

I don't know if it was the camera angles/techniques uses or something like the width of the track and featureless surroundings, but most of the time there was very little sense of speed to proceedings, with the cars almost looking like they were crawling along at 30 instead of 130.

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Good stuff all round.

Like the qualifying,

like the Team radio cutting the comentators off

Like the fact Rosenthal has gone

Don't like the fact Williams and BMW look the same.

all in all, top stuff. I think we could have a classic season on our hands.

5 teams and 10 cars all in the hunt.

I'm goingot go for Kimi for the championship now. last to 3rd says that car has the speed to win.

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I wanna see how Rossberg takes to the season as a whole. That Cosworth engine really looks on the ball. He was impressive both for speed and for manoeuvres. Shame about the opening blunder, and the qualifying one, but let him settle and lets see what he can do

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I burst out laughing somewhere near the end of the opening credits.

yep, me too. horrible, horrible start sequence. ITV really dont have a cocking clue do they. i was never a fan of jim r in the early itv f1 days but he got better & better at it & i have to say id prefer him to steve riders presentation any day. rider is now just boring. BBC personalities never make a good transition to ITV.

ferrari & renault must be a bit concerned about the pace of that mclaren in kimi's hands. if he can just get some luck & start a race near the front i think he'll show just how much faster than anything else that mclaren is.

expect ferrari to be much further back in malaysia - they did a lot of barain specific testing prior to the GP which i think flattered them. im pretty sure that once weve had a few grand prix's well be seing honda consistantly faster than them, just behind renault, who in turn will be just behind mclaren. not talking massive performance differences though - i expect all those teams to be picking up wins in the coming weeks

rosberg was a bit special wasnt he. if i was webber, id be bricking it. hope frank has him on a cast iron contract. id expect ferrari to start sniffing arround him sooner rather than later if he can maintain or better his barain performance.

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Intro is shite - race was meh. Not much else to say really.

I was hoping Schumacher would pull off the win just to show he still has what it takes. It's a shame that the cars are still incapable of following each other nose to tail. The Cart racing in the U.S was always great for that kind of close racing and unpredicatability. I was hoping that the new regulations would bring F1 somewhat closer to that style of racing.

They drastically need an overhaul of the aero designs, and what is and isn't allowed.

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They are making significant aero changes in time for the new Concorde agreement in 2008.

Not sure I agree with you about the racing in CART though. It's always rather processional even if they can run closer than in F1 and use the push-to-pass.

But then that's just racing really. In pretty much every form of motorsport you have a qualifying session which puts people into the order of fastest through to slowest. It should therefore be unsurprising that the slow guys behind don't overtake the quick guys ahead.

But in defense of CART aero, I must say I was very impressed last year during the Toronto race in CART last year when Paul Tracy lost half of his front wing after Sebastien Bourdais chopped across him coming out of the pits, but was only losing 0.2 secs a lap and didn't really need to come in and change it. Nico did that yesterday and lost almost a minute, spin not withstanding.

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expect ferrari to be much further back in malaysia - they did a lot of barain specific testing prior to the GP which i think flattered them. im pretty sure that once weve had a few grand prix's well be seing honda consistantly faster than them, just behind renault, who in turn will be just behind mclaren. not talking massive performance differences though - i expect all those teams to be picking up wins in the coming weeks

I hadnt thought of that actually. Did Ferrari actually test in Bahrain with Honda and co, or did they run their own program ?

Talking about CART for a minute, I watched it religously one season (1997 I think, it was the year when Mark Blundell drove for PacWest and won a couple of races) on Eurosport, but havent really bothered with it too much since then. Theres an Indy Racing League in the US as well isnt there ?

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I didn't watch Indy since it split in two.

I remember the 'Indy Lights / Lite' series running as well as CART, but that seemed to be more of a junior series, like F3000/GP2.

Seems like Champcar and Indy Racing League are 2 seperate senior championships now (well thats the way I understand it, wouldnt be suprised if im totally wrong!)

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I remember the 'Indy Lights / Lite' series running as well as CART, but that seemed to be more of a junior series, like F3000/GP2.

Seems like Champcar and Indy Racing League are 2 seperate senior championships now (well thats the way I understand it, wouldnt be suprised if im totally wrong!)

It's when Indy broke away from CART and created their own series that I lost interest. Both seemed to suffer for a while, with Indys IRL series being worse than CARTs Champ series at first, but the situation seems to be kind of reversed now, with CART apparently in financial trouble.

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US open wheel racing is certainly a whole lot worse off than it was in the mid-nineties before the split. I first started watching CART in 1993 when Mansell went over there and FUCK ME, it was good. So many genuine stars and such close racing.

Here's a treat for all of you:

Highlights of the 1993 New England 200. Amazing race, I'm sure you'll all agree

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Action for the Malaysian GP kicked off in the early hours of this morning :

Friday second practice times from Sepang

1. DAVIDSON Honda 1m35.041s

2. WURZ Williams 1m35.388s

3. ALONSO Renault 1m35.806s

4. MASSA Ferrari 1m35.924s

5. RAIKKONEN McLaren 1m36.132s

6. FISICHELLA Renault 1m36.182s

7. M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari 1m36.617s

8. BUTTON Honda 1m36.661s

9. VILLENEUVE BMW 1m37.045s

10. BARRICHELLO Honda 1m37.270s

11. TRULLI Toyota 1m37.317s

12. HEIDFELD BMW 1m37.418s

13. KUBICA BMW 1m37.457s

14. MONTOYA McLaren 1m37.463s

15. LIUZZI Toro Rosso 1m37.590s

16. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m37.603s

17. R.SCHUMACHER Toyota 1m37.695s

18. JANI Toro Rosso 1m37.831s

19. SPEED Toro Rosso 1m37.926s

20. WEBBER Williams 1m38.081s

21. ROSBERG Williams 1m38.205s

22. MONDINI MF1 1m38.256s

23. KLIEN Red Bull 1m38.644s

24. ALBERS MF1 1m38.918s

25. DOORNBOS Red Bull 1m39.105s

26. MONTEIRO MF1 1m39.416s

27. SATO Super Aguri 1m41.549s

28. IDE Super Aguri 1m43.164s

Honda and Williams looking quite tidy again.

I believe Fisichella and Massa have changed engines for this GP, so they'll be 10 places down on the grid.

I'll go for a Raikonnen win as my early prediction !

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I'll go for Davidson, he seems more than handy in the practice sessions ^_^

Hmm, I don't really like going for predictions, much as I hate stats. "Every driver that's started on pole whilst wearing green undies and eating a curry the night before, always pits on the 14th lap"

So with that, I'm going to refrain from putting one down. I'm very interested in seeing how Schumacher goes this week. I wanna see if his pace keeps up for two races in a row. (I don't want him to win mind, that would be terrible).

I'm gonna keep a close watch on Rosberg too, I think I'm gonna make him my seasons driver to keep an eye on.

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It's when Indy broke away from CART and created their own series that I lost interest. Both seemed to suffer for a while, with Indys IRL series being worse than CARTs Champ series at first, but the situation seems to be kind of reversed now, with CART apparently in financial trouble.

I think you'll find that the situation is the other way round now, if Honda pull out of the Indy racing league I dare say that'll be the end of it. Some of the Champ Car races I watched last year were fantastic, one of the circuits involved racing through the streets of some place I can't remember, but they never managed to level out the tram lines heading into one of the corners. I've never seen anything like that before in my life. Champ cars don't bounce very well.

The only thing going for Indy racing league is the sheer predictability of the accidents. I can recall watching last year with 5 cars going into the last 2 laps nose to tail each one of them in with a chance of winning. They just managed to get round the first corner before one of the drivers put another one into the wall. Still, with a new chassis in the pipeline for next year on the champ car front and countless talks of a re-unification of both series I wouldn't be at all surprised if it happens in 2007.

Anyway, here's hoping this weeks a bit more entertaining.

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