Super Mario Galaxy on the way for Wii

[the_dude]

"Your comments can mostly be prooven wrong. So your opinion doesn't mean anything regarding this topic anymore. You've simply lost and cannot be taken seriously anymore and when that happens theres just no point being here really."

Well, i'm just not as gullible as most gamers here by that i mean buying the same old title/IP over and over again...so if that's losing, then so be it.

[Capwn]

"buying the same old title/IP over and over again"

You make it sound like Mario games come out from a tap. On average a 'proper' console mario game comes out around every 5 years. In the meantime Nintendo are creating new IP all the time. Like pikmin, animal crossing, nintendogs, braintraining etc

[emps]

I'm going to watch The Big Lebowski again to see if the dude actually does openly offend an entire community. I remember liking him when I watched the film in the past as well!

[Don Rosco]

The Dude's right. Someone needs to get Nintendo on the phone and tell them to start innovating!

[CrispyXUK]

/Counts Mario Games over the last 25 years...

1

2

3

4

5

6

Glaxaxy = 7

Hardly milking it is it?

[Pussy Surprise]

Well, i'm just not as gullible as most gamers here by that i mean buying the same old title/IP over and over again...so if that's losing, then so be it.

If you have a problem with the same old Mario IP again and again, that's fine - Nintendo really beat the shit out of the fat plumber during the Gamecube era.

But if you have a problem with a new Mario platform game, you need to get your brain re-wired.

Games with the Mario name grow on trees, sure, but true Mario platform games are once-a-console-generation jaw droppers.

[joeplus]

Well, i'm just not as gullible as most gamers here by that i mean buying the same old title/IP over and over again...so if that's losing, then so be it.

HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHA

You're the guy who tried to make this point in the other thread a couple of weeks ago, aren't you?

You're the one who just ignores everything that people say, all the arguments they provide against you, and use the words "same", "nintendo", and "IP" in every post, as if you even know what IP means, aren't you?

Dude, thinking about your attitude gives me more lols than Brass Eye. Most PS3 fanboys at least learn the words "graphics" and "Motorstorm".

[Uzi]

Hes got a point, Nintendo is all REHASH! Not like Sony

The ps3 has metal gear solid 4, final fantasy 13, gran turismo 5, devil may cry 4, ridge racer 7, rachet and clank 4, wipeout 6, tekken 5 something to download and Virtua Fighter 5

But these games wont feel like anything like last gen, it'll feel all new because theres no rumble! But dont fear too much, the pad is otherwise the same as the first one from the 1997 dual shock.

Not like nintendo and tv remotes and ninja arsenal, nunchucks indeed!

JESUS NINTENDO, GET SOME NEW IP! YOU'RE FOOLING GULLIBLE GAMERS!

[Rudderless]

I think The Dude would prefer to play ten identikit stealth-em-ups with different names, just because they don't have the same characters in.

I mean, new characters is really what makes a game different. Super Paper Mario, Mario Party 8 and Galaxy might as well be the same game - well, they all feature Mario, don't they?

[scottcr]

IMO, Nintendo are creating the same old IP for a new generation of gamers/comsumers i.e. grannys, grandpas, your mum and yer da.

Other game developers would kill for intellectual property as powerful and instantly recognisable as Mario.

[emps]

And who says they haven't? Eh, Sega?

[Uzi]

Who?

[Retroid]

The blasting through space part thing is a very clever concept and it works in two ways. First of all in that video at least it shows off what the Wii can do. You see Mario flying past some of the planets and they all seem to be fully rendered, LOD turned up full, and it looks all very nice and all.

Secondly; it acts as a loading screen. Because you've seen these planets up close your mind assumes that when Mario blasts off and the camera pans way out that those planets keep the same amount of detail; when really they don't. In fact they go quite low polly in some cases so as this happens it's rendering the next bunch of planets ready for you to explore - pretty smart I reckon.

I'm also loving those capsule based planets, they look far more interesting then anything in the previous Marios.

[roadkill]

Other game developers would kill for intellectual property as powerful and instantly recognisable as Mario.

Not these days I think. Mario, his captive audience beside, is a bit of a relic of the past.

As the Zelda man was saying in his speech because the americans wanted Zelda realistic WW didn't really sell. The same logic goes for Mario - they're going to start churning out Mario games which satisfy the needs of the obsessive shouty contingent on american forums. It's going to get harder, more complicated (ie less accessible to newcomers), and less "kiddy" as time goes on (about as much as allowable within the scope of the franchise). A very dangerous trend in the games industry is listening too much to those few loud people.

Mario as a brand really has been on a bit of a downhill slide since Mario Kart on the SNES.

[Uzi]

Listening to the players about what they want is a horrible idea

[roadkill]

That's not what they're doing. They listen to the loud types that do things like start online games blogs.

The quiet majority, that explain things like why the PS2 did so well last gen, even without the approval of so many people on the Internet, and explain why certain titles on the DS sell so well in spite of relative online indifference, demonstrates that games forums are about the last place you should be checking for information on how to tune your game to an audience - because the audience online is not the same audience that buys the games.

The only exception to that would be the PC/360 scene, where MS seem to pander to it quite deliberately, and in that bubble it works for them.

[Jarik]

With Super Paper Mario giving the 2D Mario game new "Twists" & Mario Galaxy giving 3D Mario new "Dimensions" it looks like the gameplay of the Mario platformer will be greater than ever.

And it was hardly shoddy to begin with.

[Campfire_Burning]

I love the look of the capsule-type planet in the new footage. There was a larger planet encased in a clear, seemingly plastic shell in a previous video and it had me wondering if you could somehow get inside for a bit of platforming. So far it looks like Nintendo have filled the galaxy with little toys and games to mess around with, which sounds absolutely perfect to me.

[Kelthink]

/Counts Mario Games over the last 25 years...

1

2

3

4

5

6

Glaxaxy = 7

Hardly milking it is it?

7? Bit more than that. Well, a lot more.

[Ste Pickford]

"Your comments can mostly be prooven wrong. So your opinion doesn't mean anything regarding this topic anymore. You've simply lost and cannot be taken seriously anymore and when that happens theres just no point being here really."

Well, i'm just not as gullible as most gamers here by that i mean buying the same old title/IP over and over again...so if that's losing, then so be it.

IP and gameplay are not the same thing.

Nintendo have the best record of innovation of any game developer in the world. They've constantly innovated with the Mario series. Every single game in the series is an experiement in inventing new game mechanics (with the possible exception of NSMB, which was a nostalgia trip), clothed in the Mario IP to increase sales / give a hook of familiarity.

To criticise a new Mario game for being the same old shit is laughably ignorant.

[Major Britten]

Not these days I think. Mario, his captive audience beside, is a bit of a relic of the past.

As the Zelda man was saying in his speech because the americans wanted Zelda realistic WW didn't really sell. The same logic goes for Mario - they're going to start churning out Mario games which satisfy the needs of the obsessive shouty contingent on american forums. It's going to get harder, more complicated (ie less accessible to newcomers), and less "kiddy" as time goes on (about as much as allowable within the scope of the franchise). A very dangerous trend in the games industry is listening too much to those few loud people.

Mario as a brand really has been on a bit of a downhill slide since Mario Kart on the SNES.

How do you explain New Super Mario Bros then? That was a huge success and actually went back to Mario's roots from the NES days.

Also the Zelda comparison is incorrect as the "kiddy" zelda was a new look for the franchise when most people were actually happy with the old look. You could say then that Twilight Princess is more a "relic of the past" than Wind Waker was, in terms of artistic direction, and which one was more successful?

[Major Britten]

7? Bit more than that. Well, a lot more.

Erm not a lot more. Mario Galaxy will be the Eleventh proper Mario game, if you count Mario Bros 2 (which originally wasnt a Mario title) and the handheld games.

Console

1. Mario Bros

2. Super Mario Bros

3. Super Mario Bros 2

4. Super Mario Bros 3

5. Super Mario World

6. Mario 64

7. Super Mario Sunshine

Handheld

1. Super Mario Land

2. Super Mario Land 2

[Lujin]

/Counts Mario Games over the last 25 years...

1

2

3

4

5

6

Glaxaxy = 7

Hardly milking it is it?

7? Bit more than that. Well, a lot more.

On the consoles:

1 Super Mario Brothers

2 Super Mario brothers 2

3 Super Mario Brothers 3

4 Super Mario World

5 Yoshi's Island

6 Mario 64

7 Mario Sunshine

But if you include the handheld games then you could add at least 3 more to that

[robdood]

the_dude blatantly is a PR-account...

Nobody could be that dumb.. could they?

Regardless: the_dude, I have a question for you;

"What are you looking forward to in gaming right now?"

(I put the quote marks there for you already! )

[Popo]

Don't forget The Lost Levels. The amount of innovation in that game was shocking!

[robdood]

Lost levels was Super Mario Bros 2 in Japan anyway And it was very good.

Super Mario USA was the first Mario game I completed though; I have fond memories of that game The music was ace too.

[Kelthink]

Mario Party, Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, Mario Kart, Mario Basketball etc.

Didn't say they were platformers

[SPE]

And wasn't there a new Super Mario game for the DS recently? I've forgotten what it was called.

[Qazimod]

"I fucking hate it when people don't use the quote button and instead use "quotes like this""

Bit harsh, no?

[dogsout]

the_dude blatantly is a PR-account...

Nobody could be that dumb.. could they?

He's not. I recognise him from NTSC-UK, I remember having a similar argument with him about the DS and PSP. It was around the time the DS Lite was coming out and he was cussing everybody for being excited about it, going on about how much more fun and original the PSP was.

Sad, but true.