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It's like that for all games because Microsoft don't allow games on different xbox models to have varying levels of gameplay performance. They all have to work with the lowest common denominator in mind, which is the Core model.

Dont make things up chase christ. :) Its not like that for all games.

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30 second load times are "very short" ?

Allrighty then.

Hi Mr Liar

The initial load to start the game is around 30 seconds (prob less), once it theres 2-6 second loading screens inbetween getting new mission cutscenes. The game feels load free overall. A lot of time is spent outside of these instances. In fact the majority of the game.

What this means is: start game- loading of 20-30 seconds

once in game the occasional 2-6 second loading scene with new story based missions. Not side missions.

There is NO interior loading because the doors open in one animation and the interior is there, it is seamless. So basically very little loading overall in the game

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I'm baffled by that IGN report. Why would the 360 version have more pop-in? That doesn't make sense at all given it was developed 360 first, that most multiformat titles are superior on 360, that the main limitation is not being able to install... which shouldn't impact on pop-in rate anyway. :)

How biased has IGN's coverage of the PS3 been? Are they trustworthy? Because it's not likely that many people will have the opportunity to play the games side-by-side and they're the only site to report this so far.

When the head of the xbox part of the site bashers the 360 you know theres something away with the fairys. Ill wait for better sites to give there impressions before id roll out the sony victory carpet.

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that the main limitation is not being able to install... which shouldn't impact on pop-in rate anyway. :)

Why not? It's texture pop-in that they are complaining about, not pop-up.

I assume the PS3 is able to stream the textures from its hard drive quicker than the 360 can from the DVD.

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Why not? It's texture pop-in that they are complaining about, not pop-up.

I assume the PS3 is able to stream the textures from its hard drive quicker than the 360 can from the DVD.

Probably this. It's in no way detrimental to the game- you notice it on rare occasions and when you do you're having too much fun to care.

People who obsess whether a game loads by a few seconds faster or has less things drawinging in on rare occassions are a big part of whats wrong with gaming. Just lighten up and enjoy it guys.

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Do you know what's really missing the point? All this 'discussion' on which version is better :P

It's fucking amazing either way, guys. :)

Chase does it again. He keeps pestering me with PM's to open the PS3 v 360 thread lolz.

Seriously, I don't care which console you get it on (unless you play online with me lolz). Just fucking get it. It is in the top 3 best games that I have played probably in the last 5 years. Easily.

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I've got a whole weekend with absolutely nothing to do.

Why the fuck can't we buy this in the shops yet.

Would you rather they released it the Friday after this Tuesday?

It's like that for all games because Microsoft don't allow games on different xbox models to have varying levels of gameplay performance. They all have to work with the lowest common denominator in mind, which is the Core model.

Not even slightly true, Footie Manager, FFXI and a few other games disagree with you, and the Xbox Originals.

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I tell you what I was amazed by: my mate (hanzo of this very forum) has been playing this last night, and I lolled when he had to admit something... I mean, he's usually the kinda dude who loves the mindless murder of civilians, eg Postal 2 is his pornography :P BUT! He's only killed a couple of people in GTA4 so far.. Why? Cos he feels GUILTY when he does so. :)

Now in my eyes, that is a fucking epic achievement!!

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In that case, considering from the videos we've seen of signs appearing out of nowhere texture pop-in really is of little concern. But I'm still sceptical... because the HDD issue was something the PS3 crowd latched on to, it's highly convenient that IGN validate this and go on to mention pop-in three times during the article.

Even if the 360 version turned out to be inferior at this stage, my console still cost me £100 less than a PS3 and allowed me to play Dead Rising... plus we'll be getting DLC soon enough.

Well put. I don't care about texture pop ups. I only care about getting the game.

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In that case, considering from the videos we've seen of signs appearing out of nowhere texture pop-in really is of little concern. But I'm still sceptical... because the HDD issue was something the PS3 crowd latched on to, it's highly convenient that IGN validate this and go on to mention pop-in three times during the article.

Even if the 360 version turned out to be inferior at this stage, my console still cost me £100 less than a PS3 and allowed me to play Dead Rising... plus we'll be getting DLC soon enough.

It's all of very little concern. I'm getting it on the 360 for the DLC/Live anyway.

I don't think there's any conspiracy. I think IGN just pointed out the only differences they could see between the two versions. I assume the pop-up we've seen is present on both versions.

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I tell you what I was amazed by: my mate (hanzo of this very forum) has been playing this last night, and I lolled when he had to admit something... I mean, he's usually the kinda dude who loves the mindless murder of civilians, eg Postal 2 is his pornography :P BUT! He's only killed a couple of people in GTA4 so far.. Why? Cos he feels GUILTY when he does so. :)

Now in my eyes, that is a fucking epic achievement!!

The world has so much more weight and reality to it. The pedestrians are no longer lol worthy target practise. And Nico is too awesome to turn into a murderous twat.

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In that case, considering from the videos we've seen of signs appearing out of nowhere texture pop-in really is of little concern. But I'm still sceptical... because the HDD issue was something the PS3 crowd latched on to, it's highly convenient that IGN validate this and go on to mention pop-in three times during the article.

Even if the 360 version turned out to be inferior at this stage, my console still cost me £100 less than a PS3 and allowed me to play Dead Rising... plus we'll be getting DLC soon enough.

It's only really inferior if you're a pedantic twat. All things mentioned have no impact on the gameplay or enjoyment.

Ive said it before and I'll say it again. IGN are fucking annoying geeks. They sit around for hours with special nerd fest magnifying glasses grinding games down to near pointless technical differences which just are cannon fodder for fan boys around the world. Then they miss out key things when considering gameplay and stuff because they deal with gaming in the complete wrong way. They are fucking idiots. Overly harsh and elitist about technical issues and can't review some games well at all.

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It's only really inferior if you're a pedantic twat. All things mentioned have no impact on the gameplay or enjoyment.

Ive said it before and I'll say it again. IGN are fucking annoying geeks. They sit around for hours with special nerd fest magnifying glasses grinding games down to near pointless technical differences which just are cannon fodder for fan boys around the world. Then they miss out key things when considering gameplay and stuff because they deal with gaming in the complete wrong way. They are fucking idiots. Overly harsh and elitist about technical issues and can't review some games well at all.

And Uzi scores a knockout. IGN down in the first round.

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Is it possible that IGN were simply giving an honest appraisal of any differences they found? Probably in the hope that the fact they only found such minor issues would go some way to avoid further fanboy 'debate'?

Also, they did go on to say that 'either version will do you proud'.

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Played it for a few hours last night, can't attest to noticing any technical issues (360 version), and the initial loading really isn't a bugbear for me yet.

Anyways, not got up to much yet, did a few missions, took the girl out on a date bowling and played pool with my cousin, which is that novelty flash game in 3d. Still quite enjoyable though I suppose. Then I got run over while trying to cross over to check an ATM, so I decided to try and find a prostitute to get my health back, after a littling bit of cruising I found one and picked her up. I drove down into a cemetary and parked up and was just cycling through her different (and extortionately priced) services when some bum carjacked me and scared off the hooker :) . So I started beating on this bum who gave up after I knocked him about a bit and tried to walk off. So I ran him down in my car. Then I went home and played GTA.

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I tell you what I was amazed by: my mate (hanzo of this very forum) has been playing this last night, and I lolled when he had to admit something... I mean, he's usually the kinda dude who loves the mindless murder of civilians, eg Postal 2 is his pornography :P BUT! He's only killed a couple of people in GTA4 so far.. Why? Cos he feels GUILTY when he does so. :)

Now in my eyes, that is a fucking epic achievement!!

:(

I think I'll stick to Crackdown then.

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Heheh Craig, just try to be a murderous bastard when you play this. Hanzo felt so guilty when he killed a ped one time, he wondered if he could call 911... and he could! Amazing scenes :P

Also - getting carjacked while getting serviced by a hooker is fucking lols!! :) ARGH CANT WAIT TIL TUESDAY.

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