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therealjohnpeat

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I know I'm kinda late to this PvP lark - at least in attacking mode - but I've been playing a bit in 40-49 and 20-29 and I've met a few cheats - however one guy tonight took the biscuit, cake and most of the other food available.

The classic 'inside the pillar' shit - not too hard to deal with - Magma Totem FTW

http://www.zen9171.zen.co.uk/pvpcheat2.jpg

The same guy was getting inside the wall just as you leave the alliance tunnel heading for the roof too...

This trick is a real fucker tho - first time I've seen it - he could stay in there all NIGHT... :)

http://www.zen9171.zen.co.uk/pvpcheat1.jpg

Am I overreacting or does this fucker deserve to DIAF? :)

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1 of the reasons I don't play WSG as much as AB is that it can get really boring if people hide the flag. I'd be all for the flag returning to base after 10 minutes if you haven't scored.

Another reason was all the exploits that go on in there, they just ruin the game. Although 1 time I had the Ally flag on our roof waiting for ours to be retrieved. A WArlock feared me and I ended up on the ledge above where our flag does sit somehow. I tried to jump down and I fell of the map, you know the drop through grey oblivion to death deal.

Deserves all he gets imo.

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I've seen the tunnel roof used like that before. It's actually pretty easy to hop onto from their base, only problem being you have to actually go up the ramp to do it and by the time you've done that, they can see what you're up to and run off.

Getting inside walls (or other bits of terrain) is a different matter - often hard to do 'right' unless you've spent time trying, which makes getting LoS on them to get them out a pain in the ass.

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Neither of those spots are really cheating, they're pretty well known if you play a lot, and you can still get to them/target them easy enough. The second one you just need to walk backwards off the upper spur thing.

But yeah, it is a bit lame, but the one that really fucks me off is hunters firing through trees etc in AV. Or mages and locks for that matter, but it mostly seems to be hunters.

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ive used both places. its as though you've never played Hide & Seek before. people can quite easily get to both places.

theres another where you drop down from the roof above the doorway. a GREAT place to stand if you're a healer.

what IS cheating is when you see people half way up walls.

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Ive been feared into walls in the horde base too many times recently - it's a bit shit when you've being hammered on and everything is 'Out of Range' <_<

The Alliance tunnel roof thing is taking the piss a bit - if not an outright exploit - I'd really like to see things like that fixed tho - and especially the 'hide in the wall' shit which must be fairly easy as that guy did it about 4 times in 10 mins...

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its not exactly hiding in a wall though, its hiding around the corner of a door where there is a space to do so. Its also the first place people look for flag captures.

as for the standing on the roof entrance, its piss to get there, and i see no problem with it.

if you want pvp where everyones rooted to the ground go play Guild Wars, the issues you have highlighted are no actual places where noone else can't get to. they're very accessable and well known places, next you'll be complaining about healers standing in bushes, or flag holders standing inside the chopped down tree stumps in the middle of the map, OR everyone could stand in the middle of the midfield and wait to be captured, or better yet /afk out or not bother picking up the flag at all.

they don't need fixed, as they're not exploiting anywhere.

try it yourself, go and stand around the corner of the door and see. its clever, but nothing V targetting or a friendly mind vision can't fix.

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I agree with nicky, but hiding in the wall was not intended by blizzard, and i think it should be fixed.

As should the exploits where you go behind walls, off the map etc. Things like the second screenshot are okay - hiding on the rood is perfectly acceptable

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He is in the wall - I don't have a screenie of the other side as I got ganked but his character was invisible both sides and I couldn't shock him from either.

My 10p on the tunnel roof this is that it's cheating as I don't think they intended you to be able to get there (the fact you can doesn't make it acceptable) - but I've yet to see any solid 'word' on that.

End of the day, if you have to play that way then I feel sorry for you more than anything else - if you persist with it I'll just afk out - as 6/9 of the team did from that game :o

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The other day, in WSG, a Paladin was in the Horde base and he got feared. You know as you run out the flagroom, to go to the GY, you have the logs sticking out - well, he got stuck there. He thought it was hilarious that he was out of LOS for spells, and that we could only hit him in melee. /laugh /spit /mock etc.

Until he realised the downside of being stuck - he was STUCK.

Could've just left him there, it would've been funnier I suppose, but eventually we killed him to put him out of his misery :ph34r:

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The other day, in WSG, a Paladin was in the Horde base and he got feared. You know as you run out the flagroom, to go to the GY, you have the logs sticking out - well, he got stuck there. He thought it was hilarious that he was out of LOS for spells, and that we could only hit him in melee. /laugh /spit /mock etc.

Until he realised the downside of being stuck - he was STUCK.

Could've just left him there, it would've been funnier I suppose, but eventually we killed him to put him out of his misery :P

Reminds me of the old "pit" near the alliance GY. Basicaly, once you fell in, you couldnt get out without being killed. Much to the disadvantage of the horde.

I recall a druid named defian on our server being chased by 8 or so horde, he jumped down and they all followed him down there. Naturaly, they killed him returned the flag, and scored - but they were now trapped there for the entire game, leaving it as a 2 vs 10 situation.

Overall score 3:1

It was fucking hilarious <_<

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  • 2 weeks later...

I saw my first speed hacker the other day, a shaman (who yes, has now been reported :() zipping around like an idiot. They started by saying "can go 400km n hr if u lt me!" and no one really knew what they were talking about, until they got the flag and were over the other side in about 5 seconds flat. Very strange, made everything quite buggy, got it on video though hehe :blink: No escape!

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