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Did you happen to try the spec (2/46/3) I linked above?

Not precisely that spec, but I believe I went 0/51/0 for fun with my last 50 gold. I was mainly soloing at that point so have no idea how raid-friendly it was, seemed to be rather fun if I remember correctly though. :)

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I've been reading up on the Mage forums. Ignites no longer roll or stack, and apparently the debuff is refreshed every time you crit. So if you immediately crit a Scorch after Pyroblast, the Scorch ignite will override Pyroblast.

And Counterspell is now on a global cooldown, meaning we're shafted even further against other casters.

It's not a good day for PvP Mages. I was really excited about going 0/51/0, but without rolling Ignites there's no point.

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Just got home and installed everything - read updated, and apparently the servers are meant to be up 10 mins ago....

Apparently the Paladin talents are old as well, still got 6 second CS and 15% vengeance

Patch Day, lol

I've been reading up on the Mage forums. Ignites no longer roll or stack, and apparently the debuff is refreshed every time you crit. So if you immediately crit a Scorch after Pyroblast, the Scorch ignite will override Pyroblast.

And Counterspell is now on a global cooldown, meaning we're shafted even further against other casters.

It's not a good day for PvP Mages. I was really excited about going 0/51/0, but without rolling Ignites there's no point.

Haha, you dont need ignite for PvP. You can two shot any class just fine in 2 seconds with instant casts :) -

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*raises an eyebrow*

You do realise that the survival defensive hybrids are also two-shotting mages with the talents as they are?

I was in a 5v5 arena match where all of our team was dead within seconds, except me, but only because I got feared through the gates and couldn't get back in. Regardless, the other four were down before my fear broke. The only person on the other team I actually saw was the warrior who charged and used his fear before we'd cleared the waiting area.

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But..but...Daisy told me to get Cold Snap! /crai. It's nice to have, But I suppose I can live without it. I use it when it's up, but with Ice Barrier now, I can usually get away without getting damaged and hit another nova. (Been killing a lot a few levels above me so with the resists it can get a bit worrisome at times).

Sorry for my noobishness - bear in mind I was last a dpser of any kind back in January as a kitty in pvp, since been healing non-stop and have developed a raid mentality as a druid ("heal = good! dps = bad!")... I've never experienced the 'resist' factor on mobs with spells (moonfire lol), so wasn't sure how worth it those points were. Ditto with Winter's Chill - in reality, I wasn't sure how it would improve the crit rate on frozen mobs.

ty folks :)

(I have about +130 dmg which is about the same as Kay, lol :))

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Mr Ben

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Just got home and installed everything - read updated, and apparently the servers are meant to be up 10 mins ago....

Apparently the Paladin talents are old as well, still got 6 second CS and 15% vengeance

Patch Day, lol

Haha, you dont need ignite for PvP. You can two shot any class just fine in 2 seconds with instant casts :) -

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To be honest, that Paladin (judging from his hp/mana) isnt wearing the epic pvp set, whereas the mage is wearing at least some parts of tier 3!

Admittedly the pvp gear hasnt got much more stamina than that, but he wouldnt have been 2 shotted I think, rather 3 shotted :)

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But..but...Daisy told me to get Cold Snap! /crai. It's nice to have, But I suppose I can live without it. I use it when it's up, but with Ice Barrier now, I can usually get away without getting damaged and hit another nova. (Been killing a lot a few levels above me so with the resists it can get a bit worrisome at times).

Sorry for my noobishness - bear in mind I was last a dpser of any kind back in January as a kitty in pvp, since been healing non-stop and have developed a raid mentality as a druid ("heal = good! dps = bad!")... I've never experienced the 'resist' factor on mobs with spells (moonfire lol), so wasn't sure how worth it those points were. Ditto with Winter's Chill - in reality, I wasn't sure how it would improve the crit rate on frozen mobs.

ty folks :)

(I have about +130 dmg which is about the same as Kay, lol :))

Uncle Daisy once spent about a week trying to raid without the fire threat reduction talent and died so many times it went beyond funny and veered into the ridiculous; his advice clearly comes from a crazy place... :P

Seriously though, Cold Snap *is* nice, but I tend to see it in conjunction with ice block for something like Nefarian etc. You shouldn't meet too much before you get into raiding that will kill you before you can get another nova or frostbite proc in on. So I'd say you can skip it for now.

As for Winter's Chill... unless you have 5/5, it takes a long time to stack it and most stuff will be dead before you get any benefit from it. If you nova/frostbite a mob you instantly have a base crit chance of 50% on your next spell regardless of gear or INT, so another few percent doesn't make much difference on anything other than a raid boss.

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All I'm really lacking is ctraid and some kind of boss addon really.

CTRaid's a mess at the moment. We had a play around in ZG last night and it was all over the place.

Some people were seeing MT Windows, some weren't. Same for boss warnings, etc.

And I really hope they can get some kind of Emergency Monitor working soon.

Other than that, we had wicked fun last night playing around with all the new things. Seems like a great pacth to me.

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Yeah, word on CTRA is to avoid it like the plague, it's not letting you move people around once a fight starts, it's crippling frame rates (more so than usual), etc.

Maexenna is said to be obscenely easy now, one guild reported doing about 28% damage between sprays and the stacking HoTs meant that the MT never dropped under 90% while everyone was immobilised. Wraith Blades for all?

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Maexenna is said to be obscenely easy now, one guild reported doing about 28% damage between sprays and the stacking HoTs meant that the MT never dropped under 90% while everyone was immobilised. Wraith Blades for all?

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Think we did 30% --> 6% on our last kill between sprays. And they're not Wraith Blades, they're Gramme Blades. Server first m9z!

Oh, and you have a partner in crime... Blood Guard Gramme FTW.

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therealjohnpeat

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There was copious anguish in our Hunter channel last night as people found casttimes on spells which didn't used to have them etc. etc.

Then - as people fiddled with things - there was "OMG I fucking pwn" kinda comments :(

I'm leaving mine until others find the best talents tho - I've spent enough farting about this those of late...

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I cant say this enough after last nights bunch of AV games. Resto is now the dogs bollocks for AV, and more than likely the other BG's as well, at least untill you have the gear to go proper Enhancement (I'm talking mostly HWL gear here). I chose this spec : Earth Shield ftw!

No Mana Tide or the mana totem enhancing talents, though I hardly notice I havent got them tbh. I drink when I want mana, and I've managed fine without Tide in AV, so I cant see why I'd want it in any the other BG's. I could drop the Totem range talent, and Ancestral Knowledge to get them though if I so wish, but I like that my totems can reach further, and that I have a bit more mana to play with. I can still kill people too (mainly as the stamina changes arent in yet) thanks to Natures Blessing and my ridiculous Int stat. Imba! :D

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