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I agreed with him though.

I think that the presenters (in training) went N (by far), Simon, Tre (best to worse).

I'd have put the best/worst together to try and even it out.

Dunno, I think Simon was the worst at everything, even in training (how many times did he lead the others wrong by telling them the wrong info about the rugs, basic things such as colour, etc. and was reprimanded by it by the girl training him? But yet you think he was the best choice to go on his own?) If you had put Simon with Tre with Naomi on her own, she would've presented far better, then back in the control room she would've been leading the other two on the mic. Having Simon (who was clearly not good) on his own simply made it even more obvious that he had cocked up big style.

Exactly. Surely no-one here suspects that the person 'employed' is actually going to be doing anything of consequence for Sir Alan? The '£100k job' is just a desk and a chair, and possibly part-covered by the BBC expense wise. That's why it doesn't matter that Sir Alan's choices are entirely arbitary, they don't affect his business one bit. It's all about the spectacle and his own self-promotion from day one.

Obviously not, or he wouldn't have expressed his disappointment at the last candidate...

Apart from the fact they oversee multi-million pound projects, no, their job isn't of any relevance.
Suuuure they do.

Well Tim Campbell was Project Manager of the Health & Beauty division before he left. So hardly a desk and chair job.

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Niamo and Tre's selection:

A Trampoline - How was a man in a suit meant to sell that?

Decoupage - Too specialist/niche.

AND niether of them met the "high end" product description from the Team leader

Simon's were niche market, but they were high end niche. They made alot of money on one sale.

The final lot this year seem poor, and they're seemed to be so promising at the start...

Hang on .. a wheel chair is going to be far more niche than the art craft stuff. The mistake was just selling those bags of sticky things. they should have gone with a craft theme. But to say that's more niches than a wheel chair .. come off it. Also i'm sure they could have asked for a loverly assistant to demo the trampoline. They use model types for the cloths and stuff .. don't they?

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Actually, I would say that Sir Alan does kick in the £100k - it's peanuts really. He gets many times that worth in international media exposure for the business from the show.

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Hang on .. a wheel chair is going to be far more niche than the art craft stuff. The mistake was just selling those bags of sticky things. they should have gone with a craft theme. But to say that's more niches than a wheel chair .. come off it. Also i'm sure they could have asked for a loverly assistant to demo the trampoline. They use model types for the cloths and stuff .. don't they?

I didn't say it was more Niche, I said it was more niche and not the high end Simon's was. :lol:

Simon's sold 2 and made £450 quid ish

I'd also imagine assistants were allowed

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It's quite hard to present a product that you've no fucking idea about, hence it was poor product selection by Naomi.

That's rubbish - how long would it have taken him to learn, at minimum, what decoupage actually was? 1 min? 5 mins? It's not exactly a hard to grasp concept. If he'd bothered to even do some minimal research, his presentation would have been a million times better and he would potentially have significantly increased his sales. The thinking behind those pads was sound - craft items are popular right now (especially with people sitting at home, watching TV with time on their hands), those small sized pads are harder to find, and they were cheap enough for people to impulse buy (which is what she was specifically looking for as they wanted a range of price points in the collection).

They should have been part of a larger 'craft' theme for sure, but the potential of those decoupage pads was certainly there given the correct handling.

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That's rubbish - how long would it have taken him to learn, at minimum, what decoupage actually was? 1 min? 5 mins? It's not exactly a hard to grasp concept. If he'd bothered to even do some minimal research, his presentation would have been a million times better and he would potentially have significantly increased his sales. The thinking behind those pads was sound - craft items are popular right now, those small sized pads are harder to find, and they were cheap enough for people to impulse buy (which is what she was specifically looking for as they wanted a range of price points in the collection).

They should have been part of a larger 'craft' theme for sure, but the potential of those decoupage pads was certainly there given the correct handling.

Absolutely. For someone who is supposed to be selling it, I'm very very surprised he didn't try to do some research into it. If Naomi and Tre were unenthusiastic about the wheelchair, Simon was too (about the other products).

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Absolutely. For someone who is supposed to be selling it, I'm very very surprised he didn't try to do some research into it. If Naomi and Tre were unenthusiastic about the wheelchair, Simon was too (about the other products).

Yep. We've agreed. Simon/N/Tre were pretty much as bad as each other on this task, except product selection (where Simon was better) and presenting (where Naomi was better).

Given the track records and which one of those two above SirA values, it was a forgone conclusion.

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I don't agree about the product selection, but I'll check out the blog you linked to :lol:

It's not quite "I don't agree with what you do, but I'll fight to the death to defend your right to do it", but it's close.

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Well Tim Campbell was Project Manager of the Health & Beauty division before he left. So hardly a desk and chair job.

Why? Any idea about exactly what he did there, other than the title? A title means jack shit.

EDIT: Actually, don't bother, I've looked it up myself. Apparently he 'developed' the Integra Face Care System as the Project Director. Here's a quote from one of the first articles that mention it, and says it all really.

Infomercial fans probably know that such devices aren't new, but the Integra is getting special attention because of the man behind it.

It's all marketing, son.

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Simon may well have frozen when he was producing, but equally Tre and Naomi gave him shit support when they swapped over. Neither of them pointed out what he was doing wrong when he assembled the trampoline, and the cues Naomi was giving him for the decoupage was a load of tosh as well. As Sir Alan pointed out, Simon didn't actually explain what they were for until he'd been speaking for a few minutes and that was down to Naomi.

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Well Tim Campbell was Project Manager of the Health & Beauty division before he left. So hardly a desk and chair job.

As ZOK points out, that means nothing. If he was a project manager, it depends entirely on what project they'd given him – it could have been Project Keep This Chair Warm And Play With This Bubble Wrap.

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Apart from the fact they oversee multi-million pound projects, no, their job isn't of any relevance.

What..like Tim and his facial beauty project ;)

They are giving the six figure salary, told not to screw things up and when their first year is up they get their salary 're-negotiated' (obviously way way lower than their first year's one)

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Naomi had turned into a nodding dog over the last couple of weeks, just saying yes to everything Kristina did.

Now, I don't agree 100% with her being fired - Simon was awful all the way through the task, and he was lucky that they manage to sell 2 wheelchairs. As I said before, Tre's card is marked - he's not the winner, and I think he knows that now.

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You could have. But Tre/Nia didn't.

They didn't seem to defend/rationilise themselves very well at all (in the BR we saw).

N didn't do that in "You're Fired", continuing to slag of Simon, as opposed to defend herself.

Why are you using letters and abv. to indicate people? Why don't you just type Naomi - it's only a 5 letter word. SirA?

What's BR btw? :unsure:

Oh hold on:

"Niamo"

Don't worry about it.

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Well this is the thing. If that is so (and it looked like it) then there would've been nothing Naomi could've done, which is pretty poor IMO.

I don't agree. She was the best member of the team this week but she was still pretty average, she could have done a lot better in several areas, she hasn't really had an excellent performance in the entire series either. Whereas both Tre and Simon have had a few good weeks, Naomi has just sat in the background and followed orders from the start.

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Sir Alan even mentioned when he sent them out of the boardroom for 5 minutes that when Naomi was given the project leader she completely froze. I can't even remember which task she was team leader in so she obviously didn't do very much to make an impression on me.

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She was team leader when the girls did the kiss-o-grams, iirc.

Yep. She lead them for face painting (on a school day) and then prostitution.

She also did nothing leaderlike (it was week 3) and let Kristina lead by proxy.

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Anyone else watch the "Beyond the Boardroom" programme, talking abou the five remaining candidates, their strengths and weaknesses?

Watched it tonight on Virgin Media's Catch Up TV, and it was interesting. Tre walking again after a major car crash at 18. Kristina being a single mother at 17. Simon going to university. Katie being a cow and sleeping with the boss when she got a job at the consultancy. Lohit being organised. :lol:

Best bit were the comments from Nick and Margaret on the individuals.

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My God, it was soooo cringeworthy and funny yesterday. My brother and I were almost in tears.

Did anyone notice Simon making a really odd squeal noise (an "eeeeee!") near the beginning when he was first trying tp present those rugs? We replayed that bit over and over. The memory is actually making me snigger now.

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Anyone else watch the "Beyond the Boardroom" programme, talking abou the five remaining candidates, their strengths and weaknesses?

Watched it tonight on Virgin Media's Catch Up TV, and it was interesting. Tre walking again after a major car crash at 18. Kristina being a single mother at 17. Simon going to university. Katie being a cow and sleeping with the boss when she got a job at the consultancy. Lohit being organised. :(

Best bit were the comments from Nick and Margaret on the individuals.

I was amazed by his story, and it goes a long way to explain his aggression and general attitude. I rate him a lot higher than I did before watching the show.

As for Katie and the whole "she is the highest earner", yeah, sleeping your way to the top will often do that for you. I missed Kristina's segment though.

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