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I love South Park.  Mainly for the fact that it exists...  Two people in total control of the whole thing doing what the fuck they want.  It varies in quality and has peaks and troughs, but a poor South Park is still better than most other stuff out there.

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I've only seen the Token episode so far, and wasn't really into it. It's felt like Parker and Stone haven't had anything to say - or any clarity over what they're trying to say - in a long old time.

 

That episode felt, muddled, confused, and not sure what it was taking potshots at. I'll watch some more, but there's definitely a space in the market for upstarts with righteous indignation who haven't been millionaires for three decades.

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I remember liking the “Token” episode, at least the central gag. I don’t think they were trying to say anything with that, it was just funny to follow Stan through it.

 

Russia clearly caught them off guard. That was an episode with nothing to say. I imagine they felt pressure to be timely with something but they just didn’t have it.

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They just don't take the piss effectively. They vaguely snipe, and make oblique references without any clarity. And they usually end up looking increasingly intolerant as the years go on. Like confused old men.

 

If a couple of white millionaire men want to make jokes without social commentary, that's fine. It's 100% doable. Just avoid the topics you don't understand, so we don't end up with more offensive, dunderheaded shit like this: 

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8 hours ago, makkuwata said:

I remember liking the “Token” episode, at least the central gag. I don’t think they were trying to say anything with that, it was just funny to follow Stan through it.

 

Russia clearly caught them off guard. That was an episode with nothing to say. I imagine they felt pressure to be timely with something but they just didn’t have it.

 

They've used Stan as an analogue for their own opinions a few times in the past. It seems hard to see the episode as anything other than them reappraising what they had previously thought was funny, but now they're not so sure. And yet, they're clumsy and flippant enough with it that it comes across as diminishing people who actually do try to be better than they were.

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South Park’s existential crisis is already over a decade old. :o
 


Quite a lot of the modern appeal of the show for me is that they do reappraise things they previously thought were funny. Generations have passed, there have been multiple seismic cultural shifts over the lifetime of the show and they have grown as people along with it. But it’s still South Park. There’s a value to that.

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On 07/03/2022 at 16:27, schmojo said:

They just don't take the piss effectively. They vaguely snipe, and make oblique references without any clarity. And they usually end up looking increasingly intolerant as the years go on. Like confused old men.

 

If a couple of white millionaire men want to make jokes without social commentary, that's fine. It's 100% doable. Just avoid the topics you don't understand, so we don't end up with more offensive, dunderheaded shit like this: 

image.png.16b50c66420eaba02ebbd6297a171a23.png

 

 

I actually just caught up on the last ten episodes and both were extremely poor actually. 

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I'll end up watching them when hungover, and not even registering much of a response.

 

It'd be pretty cool if they offered their giant platform, super-efficient production process and lack of network oversight to some young, hungry, angry, surreal writers. I don't think the machinery is without merit, but it can be used in a more relevant, challenging way. Like a South Park Presents... series.

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This weeks episode was just a play on generational tropes, neither challenging nor relevant. We can all agree on wholesome episodes about the boys being boys.

 

Spoiler

I’d already managed to completely forget that Cartman lives in a hotdog trailer now, which meant the cut to him walking home probably got the biggest laugh from me. But hey, he’s happy.

 

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