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Recommended by Campbell? I'm sure it's great and all but...eh....*squirms*

Is this anything like Polarium? I never did understand how the hell that game was played, gave up on it in the end.

Sort of. It's a bit like Polarium mixed with Minesweeper.

Campbell may be a massive bell end, but he has pretty good taste when it comes to puzzle games.

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Bullshit.

He hasn't reviewed the game, he's reviewed the puzzle that he plays every day when he opens his newspaper. He hasn't scored it based on its merits as a game, he's scored it because he likes playing slitherlink. Would you give a fucking crossword game 10/10 just because you like crosswords?

It's no technical achievement at all - the graphics are functional, the sound is shit and playing it on the screen neither adds nor detracts anything from the experience of using a pencil and a piece of paper.

It's twenty quid for a puzzle book you could have bought for £1.50. Oh, except you get looked at funny if you play this on the train. That's not a 10/10. It's not anything. Reviewing it at all is preposterous. It's like reviewing solitaire.

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Bullshit.

He hasn't reviewed the game, he's reviewed the puzzle that he plays every day when he opens his newspaper. He hasn't scored it based on its merits as a game, he's scored it because he likes playing slitherlink. Would you give a fucking crossword game 10/10 just because you like crosswords?

It's no technical achievement at all - the graphics are functional, the sound is shit and playing it on the screen neither adds nor detracts anything from the experience of using a pencil and a piece of paper.

It's twenty quid for a puzzle book you could have bought for £1.50. Oh, except you get looked at funny if you play this on the train. That's not a 10/10. It's not anything. Reviewing it at all is preposterous. It's like reviewing solitaire.

.::: I remember some references in the review towards the fact that the concept fits the DS elegantly.

And why hasn't there been a review of Solitaire yet? Or did they refuse to send gamesTM a copy? :)

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He hasn't reviewed the game, he's reviewed the puzzle that he plays every day when he opens his newspaper. He hasn't scored it based on its merits as a game, he's scored it because he likes playing slitherlink. Would you give a fucking crossword game 10/10 just because you like crosswords?

Sure, why not?

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Sure, why not?

Because it's about as valid and interesting an argument as me saying "I like it because it is good".

He's told me why the puzzle is good, sure. But why is the video game version worth 10/10 besides his love of the paper-based equivalent? Fuck knows. Go review Bumper Puzzle Monthly magazine and give that 10/10 as well.

Jumbo Puzzle Fun magazine only gets a nine because there's no hot chick in a tight sweater on the cover.

If it's a 10/10 game, I hereby award Windows Solitaire and the Yahoo crossword a 10/10. Best games ever. Why? Because I like crosswords.

Do Yahoo do a crossword? Who knows. Let's presume they do.

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Because it's about as valid and interesting an argument as me saying "I like it because it is good".

He's told me why the puzzle is good, sure. But why is the video game version worth 10/10 besides his love of the paper-based equivalent? Fuck knows.

If it's a 10/10 game, I hereby award Windows Solitaire and the Yahoo crossword a 10/10. Best games ever. Why? Because I like crosswords.

Did you miss all the stuff in the review about why it's great on the DS, then? How you can colour code stuff and undo moves?

And should you not review Gran Turismo because cars exist?

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Because it's about as valid and interesting an argument as me saying "I like it because it is good".

The review was far more comprehensive and detailed than that. Did you not read it?

He's told me why the puzzle is good, sure. But why is the video game version worth 10/10 besides his love of the paper-based equivalent? Fuck knows.

Because it's equally good or better, therefore equally deserving of praise.

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Because it's about as valid and interesting an argument as me saying "I like it because it is good".

He's told me why the puzzle is good, sure. But why is the video game version worth 10/10 besides his love of the paper-based equivalent? Fuck knows.

If it's a 10/10 game, I hereby award Windows Solitaire and the Yahoo crossword a 10/10. Best games ever. Why? Because I like crosswords.

Do Yahoo do a crossword? Who knows. Let's presume they do.

Lets assume it's a bloody good implementation. Why doesn't it deserve a 10 / 10?

Is 10 / 10 reserved only for cutting edge technical achievements with multi million dollar development budgets?

Why don't you just mark the development budget? The size of all the data on the disk? The number of artists on the team?

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Because it's about as valid and interesting an argument as me saying "I like it because it is good".

He's told me why the puzzle is good, sure. But why is the video game version worth 10/10 besides his love of the paper-based equivalent? Fuck knows. Go review Bumper Puzzle Monthly magazine and give that 10/10 as well.

Jumbo Puzzle Fun magazine only gets a nine because there's no hot chick in a tight sweater on the cover.

If it's a 10/10 game, I hereby award Windows Solitaire and the Yahoo crossword a 10/10. Best games ever. Why? Because I like crosswords.

Do Yahoo do a crossword? Who knows. Let's presume they do.

Have you read the review?

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He hasn't reviewed the game, he's reviewed the puzzle that he plays every day when he opens his newspaper. He hasn't scored it based on its merits as a game, he's scored it because he likes playing slitherlink. Would you give a fucking crossword game 10/10 just because you like crosswords?

It's no technical achievement at all - the graphics are functional, the sound is shit and playing it on the screen neither adds nor detracts anything from the experience of using a pencil and a piece of paper.

It's twenty quid for a puzzle book you could have bought for £1.50. Oh, except you get looked at funny if you play this on the train. That's not a 10/10. It's not anything. Reviewing it at all is preposterous. It's like reviewing solitaire.

I'd be inclined to think that it's like letting an 8 year old girl review barbie horse adventures. But never let it be said that Eurogamer hand out 10's both willy and nilly...

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=4547

(For reference, Halo = 8/10 http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=2628 )

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Did you miss all the stuff in the review about why it's great on the DS, then? How you can colour code stuff and undo moves?

Use a coloured pencil and a fucking rubber. OMG FUTAR.

And should you not review Gran Turismo because cars exist?

Don't be willfully ignorant.

Driving games are video games. This is identical in every possible way to a quid fifty puzzle book, except it's on a screen so you have to put up with people looking at you funny on the bus. What amazing effort must have gone into such a revolutionary product.

Like I said - he hasn't reviewed the video game, he's reviewed the puzzle. If you're going to do that, then let's give 10/10 to every video game representation of solitaire and any crossword puzzle that's ever been on a computer monitor.

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but but but...

surely it's all down to the interface as well.

I'd much rather do Soduko in Brain Training than on paper or one of those LCD things - because the interface makes it so much more accessible.

In this case, it sounds like it's a great puzzle idea combined with the perfect delivery mechanism which has resulted in such a high rating.

Right - so when's it out in English?

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This is identical in every possible way to a quid fifty puzzle book, except it's on a screen so you have to put up with people looking at you funny on the bus. What amazing effort must have gone into such a revolutionary product.

Unless he's reviewing its worth in monetary value or judging it based on how much effort went into making it, neither of these things are relevant.

Like I said - he hasn't reviewed the video game, he's reviewed the puzzle. If you're going to do that, then let's give 10/10 to every video game representation of solitaire and any crossword puzzle that's ever been on a computer monitor.

Sure, if you want; although Solitaire (the card one) is not that good anyway.

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Driving games are video games.

GT (a game which, unless I'm much mistaken, received a 10 in Edge) is a simulation of driving a car, inherently for people who love driving cars. How is a puzzle game, for people who love puzzles, different in any respect?

GT isn't for me, because I find it difficult to get that enthused about sparkly voitures, but I don't think a reviewer who happens to be from the target audience should mark it down because of that.

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A good crossword game on the DS would easily be as good as Slitherlink though.

Why are they going to review the Japanese version like they've done here?

POWNZED!!!11

I laugh at you from America!

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Have you read the review?

Yes, with my mouth agape throughout.

Lets assume it's a bloody good implementation. Why doesn't it deserve a 10 / 10?

Because it's no better an implementation than a £1.50 puzzle book. It adds nothing besides a slightly more cumbersome interface and an infinitely more stealable storage medium..

Is 10 / 10 reserved only for cutting edge technical achievements with multi million dollar development budgets?

Like everyone keeps ignoring me saying - if this is worth 10/10 then so is every video game crossword puzzle ever.

How do you not get that?

It's not a video game. It's fifty pee's worth of paper puzzles on a cartridge. Anybody could have made it, and you could do it with ANYTHING. Take any popular puzzle out of your newspaper, multiply it x 500, stick it on a cartridge and then hand it to someone who likes that [articular type of puzzle and it's an instant 10/10. That doesn't make it a great video game.

You and John want a Eurogamer 10/10? Scrap Naked War and bung a bunch of crosswords onto a DS cart with no effort made towards art or sound whatsoever. Shouldn't take more than a week. Result.

That's the problem. You make something that takes skill, smarts, creativity and effort like Naked War and what score does it get? Who fucking cares - it's not as good as the puzzle book on a cart.

I don't have any problem with the game, but I have a massive problem with awarding it 10/10 simply because it's a type of puzzle the reviewer is into.

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That doesn't make it a great video game.

Look, the Eurogamer review system is based on.....on......

I'm out. Can anyone enlighten me?

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