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I never got bored of Fawkes' combat war cry "AHHH THERE YOU ARE!" whenever we entered a hostile environment. :)

I saw the whole 'take it or leave it' part of companions a great idea - during my several playthrough I'd go through stages of having them and not having them, which is I'm sure what Bethesda had in mind. :)

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I never got bored of Fawkes' combat war cry "AHHH THERE YOU ARE!" whenever we entered a hostile environment. :)

I saw the whole 'take it or leave it' part of companions a great idea - during my several playthrough I'd go through stages of having them and not having them, which is I'm sure what Bethesda had in mind. :)

Indeed. I eventually sent Fawkes off somewhere and left him there, as I felt he got in the way. Others seemed to love him. The game is very playable either way I guess.

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ha, yeah, having fawkes around adds a whole new dimension to combat - timing how long you wait while he whittles 'em down before you step up and get the last shot in to claim the XP.

According to the Fallout wikia, you have to do a minimum of 30% of the damage to claim the XP, but it's pretty hard to get that when Fawkes is stood next to you with his laser gattling cannon!

I took him home in the end and left him in my lounge.

Feels much more like the early days now I'm back out on my own again.

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Got to say I thought all the companions were a game breaking waste of time. Much preferred playing on my own , like you I left faulkes in my house as an annoying ornament.

Yeah, having Fawkes alongside completely changes the dynamic of the game, but after 70-80hrs of mostly wandering around in fear of the beasts it was nice to be able to saunter all over the place without a care in the world for a while.

Back to solitary exploring now though I think.

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Have nearly finished with this now - level 30, almost all skills at 100 and S.P.E.C.I.A.L almost maxed out, more ammo and caps than I could ever need, and pretty much everyone dead from Tenpenny Towers to the Republic of Dave. I've stripped most major locations bare of everything not bolted down (Megaton, Rivet City, Underworld, Tenpenny Towers, Little Lamplight)and flogged as much as I could off, before distributing the rest in piles outside in the desert. I've just kept one of the roving traders alive, and a few characters I like (mainly Ghouls). I'm pretty much king of the wasteland, last night I took all my clothes and armour off and ran around the desert naked beating deathclaws and mirelurks to a pulp with my bare fists.

Think I have got all the fun out of the game that I'm going to and it's time to retire - just after I have restored my karma to the highest level I can (it's rock bottom now, obviously) by donating caps and purified water.

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A year after I bought Oblivion I've finally admitted defeat and uninstalled it, I simply couldn't get into the game and god knows I've wanted to and I've tried, Steam tells me I've played it for 120 hours on and off since I bought it last year. I've tried it 'vanilla' and with all sorts of mods but after 25-30 hours I just get bored, I've tried different classes, different guilds etc and it makes no difference nor could I figure out why I couldn't get into as I loved fallout 3.

Then last week a mate and I were reminiscing about fallout 3 and i realised all the things I loved in fallout 3 I never saw in Oblivion. I never felt any sense of danger like you do in downtown DC surrounded by Super mutants or wondering what's around the corner when sneaking through metros and ruins, I remembered all the wonderful little touches and places I'd found in fallout and realised that after 120 hours in Oblivion I had no standout quests or characters that stick in my mind and all the caves, ruins and forts I'd explored I couldn't tell apart if it wasn't for the name.

The game looks great modded up and there is a load to do and lots to explore but I've yet to come across anything that makes me go 'wow that's awesome!' like the first time I used V.A.Ts or saw Rivet city or the first time I sneaked up and slipped a grenade in someone's pocket then scarpered. for me Oblivion just lacks the x-factor that fallout 3 has in bundles.

Anyone else feel the same or maybe vice versa?

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Dear god I'd almost forgotten how good this game is, and how addictive. Like I said above there are just so many little touches to see and find which I never seemed to come across in Oblivion, I've leveled my science this time and I'm finding loads of little tidbits by hacking terminals.

I'm really tempted to try an unarmed build, apparently it's a lot more powerful than people expect. probably need some skill in big weapons to nuke behemoths though...

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A year after I bought Oblivion I've finally admitted defeat and uninstalled it, I simply couldn't get into the game and god knows I've wanted to and I've tried, Steam tells me I've played it for 120 hours on and off since I bought it last year. I've tried it 'vanilla' and with all sorts of mods but after 25-30 hours I just get bored, I've tried different classes, different guilds etc and it makes no difference nor could I figure out why I couldn't get into as I loved fallout 3.

Then last week a mate and I were reminiscing about fallout 3 and i realised all the things I loved in fallout 3 I never saw in Oblivion. I never felt any sense of danger like you do in downtown DC surrounded by Super mutants or wondering what's around the corner when sneaking through metros and ruins, I remembered all the wonderful little touches and places I'd found in fallout and realised that after 120 hours in Oblivion I had no standout quests or characters that stick in my mind and all the caves, ruins and forts I'd explored I couldn't tell apart if it wasn't for the name.

The game looks great modded up and there is a load to do and lots to explore but I've yet to come across anything that makes me go 'wow that's awesome!' like the first time I used V.A.Ts or saw Rivet city or the first time I sneaked up and slipped a grenade in someone's pocket then scarpered. for me Oblivion just lacks the x-factor that fallout 3 has in bundles.

Anyone else feel the same or maybe vice versa?

Interesting. I just came in here to post my thoughts and they're very definitely of the vice versa category. I just got a new PC and my friend told me to buy this as a matter of urgency, so away I go, pick it up and install it. Brilliant, I thought. It's the same guys who made Oblivion (which is easily in my Top 5 of all time).

Hate it. Can't say why, but it feels like a clunky, reskinned Oblivion with guns. You hate the forts in Oblivion, I'm sick of the identikit underground metro stations. I'm sick of the fact that the quests (especially the main one) all seem to be "Go to [CITY X]. You'll find it after lumping through [METRO STATION Y] for an hour. When you come out of the other side, talk to [NPC Y]. After a few lines of dialogue, he will send you to [OUTPOST Z]. To reach here, you'll need to make your way to [METRO STATION 1]. After lumping through it for an hour, you'll reach [CITY..." over and over and over. I'd find it mildly forgivable if the game had done that to me after I'd settled into it a bit - the mid-to-end-game slog you sometimes find in games such as this - but it makes you do it right from the get go. I've honestly tried to like it. Really I have. But I swear to god, I can only think of one moment (blowing someone's leg off in VATS) that's even made me go "Huh". This is compared to Oblivion, where in the first five hours of play I'd had twenty things that had blown my mind. Five hours which, incidentally, I played through in one sitting after I'd installed it for the first time. This one I've had for a week now and have just about hit the five hour mark. I'm forcing myself to play a game I don't enjoy just hoping that something will click, even though I know it won't. Hell, I enjoyed Fable III exponentially more than this game, and that was by no means great.

I think it's time to call it a day.

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Try ignoring the main story quest for a bit. Once you have a couple of health packs and a little bit of ammo then you're far better off just picking a direction and heading out and exploring than going where people are telling you. The main story lets the game down in the way it reveals the world to the player - exploring on your own initiative will almost certainly show off more of the good stuff quicker.

For what it's worth it took about 13 hours for me to realise I was actually in love with the game - five hours in I was pretty sure I didn't much like it at all. I know that's quite an investment to make though, so don't feel too bad if you give up on it.

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Try ignoring the main story quest for a bit. Once you have a couple of health packs and a little bit of ammo then you're far better off just picking a direction and heading out and exploring than going where people are telling you. The main story lets the game down in the way it reveals the world to the player - exploring on your own initiative will almost certainly show off more of the good stuff quicker.

For what it's worth it took about 13 hours for me to realise I was actually in love with the game - five hours in I was pretty sure I didn't much like it at all. I know that's quite an investment to make though, so don't feel too bad if you give up on it.

Well that's the thing - as I stated, I absolutely adore Oblivion and I loved to just go chugging around finding stuff and picking up new quests here and there. As for F3, the main quest has taken me into the city region, and for an open game it feels shockingly restricted - getting to certain areas requires going through Station X or whatever - and I can't be doing with it. That being said, I might go back to Megaton and do a bit of exploring in the Wasteland. I'd done a tad before - a few new vaults, a few deserted buildings and such - but not much in the way of quests. Yeah, I think I will actually. Although the urge to fire up Oblivion again is getting pretty strong.

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As I said New Vegas really is better structured, your path for exploration to the strip is kind of guided so you're not lost but it lets you explore. The guns and weapon mods are far more fun, Nothing beats sneaking up to a Deathclaw and blowing off his face with the Anti Material rifle.... or missing and getting a deathclaw in the face and desperately running backwards trying to wound the legs before he rearranges your intestine into balloon animals.

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Well that's the thing - as I stated, I absolutely adore Oblivion and I loved to just go chugging around finding stuff and picking up new quests here and there. As for F3, the main quest has taken me into the city region, and for an open game it feels shockingly restricted - getting to certain areas requires going through Station X or whatever - and I can't be doing with it. That being said, I might go back to Megaton and do a bit of exploring in the Wasteland. I'd done a tad before - a few new vaults, a few deserted buildings and such - but not much in the way of quests. Yeah, I think I will actually. Although the urge to fire up Oblivion again is getting pretty strong.

The city area is pretty restrictive, you're right. It's kind of satisfying in its own horrifically frustrating way when you're trying to get to some arbitrary point and just can't find your way there, but in general the best bits are found out in the middle of nowhere.

But hey, even if you take my advice you might end up not liking the game anyway and then I'd feel guilty for pushing it on you!

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BUMP!

Just got back into this, after completing Old World Blues. I've finally completed the main quest and have gone straight into Broken Steel.

But - where's Dogmeat? It's great running around with Fawkes, with Tesla Armour on, tearing the wasteland a new arsehole, but I can't find Dogmeat. I tried looking in the scrapyard, in my house in Megaton - where is the little guy?

Can anyone help?

Ta :)

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BUMP!

Just got back into this, after completing Old World Blues. I've finally completed the main quest and have gone straight into Broken Steel.

But - where's Dogmeat? It's great running around with Fawkes, with Tesla Armour on, tearing the wasteland a new arsehole, but I can't find Dogmeat. I tried looking in the scrapyard, in my house in Megaton - where is the little guy?

Can anyone help?

Ta :)

IIRC he hangs around outside the entrance to Vault101 when he's not needed.

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Well that's the thing - as I stated, I absolutely adore Oblivion and I loved to just go chugging around finding stuff and picking up new quests here and there. As for F3, the main quest has taken me into the city region, and for an open game it feels shockingly restricted - getting to certain areas requires going through Station X or whatever - and I can't be doing with it. That being said, I might go back to Megaton and do a bit of exploring in the Wasteland. I'd done a tad before - a few new vaults, a few deserted buildings and such - but not much in the way of quests. Yeah, I think I will actually. Although the urge to fire up Oblivion again is getting pretty strong.

A bit late this response, but never mind. I had basically exactly the same experience as you at this point, and tweeted about it in frustration. The thing is though, if you start exploring at random instead of trying to get somewhere, it becomes a lot less frustrating and a lot more interesting. If it doesn't matter what's at the end of a subway then it doesn't matter any more if it leads to the wrong place. If you don't know what to expect at the other end of a tunnel it's suddenly more exciting exploring through them. Just ignore the main quest, see what you stumble across, and eventually you'll be able to fast travel around the main quest easily.

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Managed to pick up the 360 GotY edition a while back and decided to get stuck into it. Am I correct in thinking the add on's are all available from the begining of the game, other than the Steel expansion? I recall playing the game when it first came out but can't quite remember if there was a point of no return in the main quest or if I could finish it but then continue all the side quests?

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Managed to pick up the 360 GotY edition a while back and decided to get stuck into it. Am I correct in thinking the add on's are all available from the begining of the game, other than the Steel expansion? I recall playing the game when it first came out but can't quite remember if there was a point of no return in the main quest or if I could finish it but then continue all the side quests?

They should be available, but if i remember rightly, stuff like poitn lookout was very high level, so i woulldnt attempt it straight out of the box.

Been replaying this lately too, playing as an evil bitch, and its great. Blew up megaton, killing innocent people, and lets jsut say Roy whatsisface the ghoul, wont be troubling tenpenny tower anytime soon :eyebrows:

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Managed to pick up the 360 GotY edition a while back and decided to get stuck into it. Am I correct in thinking the add on's are all available from the begining of the game, other than the Steel expansion? I recall playing the game when it first came out but can't quite remember if there was a point of no return in the main quest or if I could finish it but then continue all the side quests?

There isn't really a point of no return with the Broken Steel DLC installed as that lets you carry on after the main quest is over. :)

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I recently built myself a gaming PC and purchased Fallout 3 GOTY in a sale on Steam. I'm only 4 hours in but I've already suffered a ridiculous amount of crashes. I've done a bit of research and tried to sort it but nothing seems to work. I just want to know - before I dedicate what is left of my life to getting this bloody game running properly - am I expecting too much to be able to play this game on a Windows 7 PC without it crashing every 5 minutes?

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