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Many people on UK Based gaming forums and disgruntled GS staff all claiming to be the ones that caused it. In fact I think the OFT requires a certain amount of complaints before they will investigate.

I'm sure someone on another forum wrote an email of complaint and got a reply saying that they can only respond to complaints made by businesses who might be effected, not customers. So it must have been HMV!

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Many people on UK Based gaming forums and disgruntled GS staff all claiming to be the ones that caused it. In fact I think the OFT requires a certain amount of complaints before they will investigate.

No, they just need to be pointed to the case in a certain way.

It helps to go out for drinks with someone who works there.

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I'm sure someone on another forum wrote an email of complaint and got a reply saying that they can only respond to complaints made by businesses who might be effected, not customers. So it must have been HMV!

Makes sense as their new focus(this second) is games so might actually be true.

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This is just a rubber-stamping exercise. I can't see that any competition laws have been broken, since so many shops now sell videogames. It's a shit merger from a customer point of view, but "you're not allowed to be shit" isn't part of the law!

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I'm sure someone on another forum wrote an email of complaint and got a reply saying that they can only respond to complaints made by businesses who might be effected, not customers. So it must have been HMV!

Which would be deeply ironic given what happened to Ottakar's last year.

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This is just a rubber-stamping exercise. I can't see that any competition laws have been broken, since so many shops now sell videogames.

It's not necessarily about the number of other shops, but it's about the market power. The Competition Commission will want to run an SMP (significant market power) test on the industry to see if a Game and Gamestation merger would lead to other firms losing any ability to compete.

I believe that the outcome will be that they will have non-negligible but not significant market power.

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  • 3 months later...
Probably not worth starting a new topic about, but MCV says that Gamestation are opening "a dozen or so" shops before Christmas.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/28335/Gamestatio...e-opening-drive

Hull vs Birmingham. :(

12?!

12!

In 2 months. Absolutely mental idea. You might as well throw money into a well for all the good it'll do.

And this:

The GAME-owned specialist retailer

Since when was the acquisition made formal? The last I heard the Monopolies commission was about to reject the buy with Gamestop waiting to step in.

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Since when was the acquisition made formal? The last I heard the Monopolies commission was about to reject the buy with Gamestop waiting to step in.

The acquisition was already made; the Competition Commission can reverse it. No decision on that has been made yet.

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I have to say the last four times I have on impulse gone to buy a new game, I've gone to Game, Gamestation, Woolworths and HMV, and in every instance HMV has proven to be the cheapest so they've had my business.

I kid myself Gamestation is a nice place to browse because it has older consoles, but in reality it's revoltingly overpriced & just as badly run as Game. Good riddance.

My sentiments exactly except i use play.

'Would you like a strategy guide with that title sir', 'you'll need it' (half hearted laugh and shoulder movement). 'Would you like me to asphixiate you with your own stupid wide tie ? Patronising c***s

Seriously though last time i was in game i wanted test drive unlimited for the p.c. i opened the box and there was a keycode on a sticky label inside the box. So cheers for that anyway, even though the game was still shit

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My sentiments exactly except i use play.

'Would you like a strategy guide with that title sir', 'you'll need it' (half hearted laugh and shoulder movement). 'Would you like me to asphixiate you with your own stupid wide tie ? Patronising c***s

Seriously though last time i was in game i wanted test drive unlimited for the p.c. i opened the box and there was a keycode on a sticky label inside the box. So cheers for that anyway, even though the game was still shit

So last time you were in GAME you stole a game? Great.

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Anyone watching the programme on ITV about shoplifting?

Apparently the Virgin store on Oxford Street suffers around £200k of theft every year. Makes you realise why Game gut stuff. Staggering figures.

I wouldn't mind them gutting games if they put the discs and manuals in decent boxes. Gamestation put the discs in cardboard sleeves and the manuals go in plastic bags :(

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......and it's been given the green light (well, provisionally, at least). By the skin of its teeth too, by the sounds of it.

Ummm, yay, or something. From Gamesindustry

Second-hand sales proved to be the real sticking point of inquiry

The merger of High Street specialists GAME and Gamestation has been given the all clear by the UK's Competition Commission.

However, the sticking point for the inquiry was the subject of second-hand software sales, with the body revealing that the inquiry Chairman had to use her casting vote to give the merger the go ahead.

"There are fewer alternative retailers engaged in trade-ins and the sale of pre-owned [games]. However, we see that several competitors are expanding rapidly and customers are increasingly making use of alternative retail channels," noted Diane Coyle, chairman of the inquiry.

"We also found that competition for new gaming products effectively sets a cap on prices for pre-owned products, as customers could easily switch to new products sold elsewhere were the merged company to increase pre-owned prices.

"Two members of the Group disagreed with the conclusion in relation to the potential for a substantial lessening of competition with regard to the trade-in and sale of pre-owned gaming software. As this meant a split 2:2 verdict, the Chairman has exercised her casting vote in favour of a provisional clearance," said Coyle.

The amount and variety of retailers taking advantage of the lucrative game business was another reason for the provisional greenlight, with the Commission noting that there isn't a great deal of customer loyalty for retail brands.

"Even though customers view GAME and Gamestation as the next best alternative for each other, if the merged company was to raise prices, for example, we think it is likely that customers could move a significant amount of their business to alternative retailers such as independents, high-street retailers, supermarkets and Internet retailers.

"Customers appear to switch between different types of retailers to look around for the best deals," said Coyle.

The Competition Commission carried out research by speaking to various retailers – from specialist games stores to electrical, online and entertainment retailers.

Although the merger has been provisionally cleared, the final report is expected to be published by late January 2008.

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On the contrary, Poet. The issue was raised by consumers, who pressured the CC to investigate, which they did. Just because the CC decided not to move against the merger does not mean nothing was done about it.

I think you'll find that at the time I meant that nothing would be done about it by the OFT after their investigation. And nothing was done.

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I think you'll find that at the time I meant that nothing would be done about it by the OFT after their investigation. And nothing was done.

The OFT passed it onto the Competition Commission - which the maximum that they are able to do. The CC has carried out a full investigation, and has narrowly decided that there looks to be sufficient competition growing in the market. However, the fact hat this has been through the CC means that the market will be monitored for the foreseeable future, with any potential abuse of power dealt with.

So quite a lot has been done.

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I think they've missed the point when they say customers can buy new games elsewhere if Game puts pre-owned prices up - a lot of customers subsidise the price of the games they buy from Game with trade-ins, which they can't do at HMV, Woolies or online. The choice isn't between spending £30 cash on a new game at HMV or £30 cash on a second hand copy at Game. The alternative is trading in a few old games and spending much less or even no cash at all.

In other words, I don't agree that the price of new games elsewhere will "effectively set a cap on prices for pre-owned products."

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The OFT passed it onto the Competition Commission - which the maximum that they are able to do. The CC has carried out a full investigation, and has narrowly decided that there looks to be sufficient competition growing in the market. However, the fact hat this has been through the CC means that the market will be monitored for the foreseeable future, with any potential abuse of power dealt with.

So quite a lot has been done.

Amazing.

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The OFT passed it onto the Competition Commission - which the maximum that they are able to do. The CC has carried out a full investigation, and has narrowly decided that there looks to be sufficient competition growing in the market. However, the fact hat this has been through the CC means that the market will be monitored for the foreseeable future, with any potential abuse of power dealt with.

So quite a lot has been done.

Okay fine we moved from the OFT to the CC. That was done.

And yet nothing has been changed. The merger went ahead with no amendments. Hell, they didn't even have to sell off any branches to any competition! This was the (very obvious) point I was making.

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"Even though customers view GAME and Gamestation as the next best alternative for each other, if the merged company was to raise prices, for example, we think it is likely that customers could move a significant amount of their business to alternative retailers such as independents,

Hah! As if GAME/Gamestation 2nd-hand prices will ever be as high as those of independents.

(At least in my experience...)

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Okay fine we moved from the OFT to the CC. That was done.

And yet nothing has been changed. The merger went ahead with no amendments. Hell, they didn't even have to sell off any branches to any competition! This was the (very obvious) point I was making.

You didn't make your point very well. What you ought to have said, rather than "nothing will be done", is "lots will be done but in the end the merger will be allowed". Pretty much as I did weeks ago.

What it appears to say is that there was a problem with the 2nd hand sales. But due to the fact that the 2nd hand prices are near to brand new there was competition there.

So the acquisition was fine because the 2nd hand prices are shite...

That's not what it says at all.

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