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On 06/04/2022 at 22:52, Sarlaccfood said:


Why do you say that? Have they alluded to anything?

 


Mayo’s been dicked around by them for ages. His successful drive time show was turned to shite when they dumped Jo Whiley in as a Co-host, only to scrap the whole show shortly after when it became apparent Mayo and Whiley had as much chemistry as a lettuce leaf and a brick.

 

Still, Mayo’s had a pretty amazing run at the Beeb, but it does seem he’s rather bitter now.

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31 minutes ago, womblingfree said:


Mayo’s been dicked around by them for ages. His successful drive time show was turned to shite when they dumped Jo Whiley in as a Co-host, only to scrap the whole show shortly after when it became apparent Myo and Whiley had as much chemistry as a lettuce leaf and a brick.

 

Still, Mayo’s had a pretty amazing run at the Been, but it does seem he’s rather bitter now.

 

There's been quite a few comments over the years about being constantly shoved out of the way for cricket and so on. Also recording in variable quality studios with dodgy headphones and mics quite a lot too. I think in terms of how popular their podcast is they felt they deserved a bit more respect.

 

But the BBC is a weird place. I doubt worldwide popularity washes much with the lifer execs who have a stuffy attitude towards the internet generally and an idea of serving the public that's rooted in the 50's - half public service, half do what we say. I remember about a decade ago there was a weird kerfuffle about not making the podcast available worldwide briefly - can't remember the details though.

 

I always got the impression their success with the show wasn't anticipated and therefore never had the approval from up above in terms of 'you weren't our choice lined up for success' that you get in calcified orgs like the BBC.

 

It's a bit like Nintendo's line up suddenly had a breakout worldwide hit with Birdo as the star. Except Nintendo would have the nous to capitalise on it. The Beeb'd rather compromise it.

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33 minutes ago, womblingfree said:


Mayo’s been dicked around by them for ages. His successful drive time show was turned to shite when they dumped Jo Whiley in as a Co-host, only to scrap the whole show shortly after when it became apparent Myo and Whiley had as much chemistry as a lettuce leaf and a brick.

 

Still, Mayo’s had a pretty amazing run at the Been, but it does seem he’s rather bitter now.


Ah right. Well they should have got the film show off Jonathan Ross and not given it to Claudia fucking Winkleman for one thing.

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2 minutes ago, Sarlaccfood said:


Ah right. Well they should have got the film show off Jonathan Ross and not given it to Claudia fucking Winkleman for one thing.

 

That's the BBC Roster of Stars thing. Shows have to go to one of the Roster Of Stars. Winkleman not available? Whiley then? No? Call Edith Bowman, etc.

 

Mayo may have once been on it, but not now. Kermode is like Channel 4 incarnate to them, I'd imagine.

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16 hours ago, Sarlaccfood said:


Why do you say that? Have they alluded to anything?

 

 

Two middle-aged middle-class university educated white men, one a liberal lefty and the other an outright socialist.  They're neither going to 'tick the boxes' for modern BBC diversity, nor be approved by the forces trying to make the BBC "less woke" (i.e. more Tory).  I can quite imagine that in such circumstances they could've been surprisingly short of friends higher up, despite their success.

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Will the BBC film review on tv also stop? I will miss that if so, it was great. Just 10-15mins briefly going over a selection of the weeks biggest releases. Although it was a bit jarring to see him alongside new anchors who were previously see talking about the atrocities of the Russian invasion suddenly giggling along to Kermode's impression of Jim Carrey or Jared Leto.

 

What's with the Jared Leto thing btw, kermode absolutely HATES Leto and rips into his acting all the time.

 

 

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Leto also has his own creepy cult island. And is an absolute nightmare to work with on sets.

 

With Morbius for example he ALWAYS used the crutches to get round because he's a method acting weirdo, which resulted in 45 minute bathroom breaks.

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  • 4 weeks later...

Will find time to read that later but

 

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MK: The genius thing about the show is, I talk to Simon, and Simon talks to the audience. The joy and the optimism, that all comes from Simon. I don’t really understand how it works. I just say the first thing that comes into my head. A lot of the time they have to birdsong it.

 

Joy and optimism from Mayo? Never got that. 

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19 hours ago, Loik V credern said:

Will find time to read that later but

 

 

Joy and optimism from Mayo? Never got that. 

 

In recent times the main thing I take from Mayo's contribution is boredom and disdain.

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On 02/05/2022 at 09:10, Hanzo the Razor said:

 

In recent times the main thing I take from Mayo's contribution is boredom and disdain.

 

For me it seems like he hasn't lost his love or enthusiasm for the subject matter but he's been absolutely done with the BBC for a long time. 

 

Again as I think I said upthread, Kermode is still doing work for the BBC so if he feels the same, he still must have to mask it a lot better. 

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Episode 1 of Kermode & Mayo's Take is now out.

 

Only listened to a bit of it and it's basically the same show, but I do sense their excitement to be doing something new. Mayo for one seems less grumpy.

 

It's also two hours! This time without the weather/news/traffic/cricket scores. So a lot beefier than I was expecting.

 

 

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Listened to the first hour and a quarter and am shocked and disgusted by the lack of a top 10 so far, always been my favourite part of the show. There’s also some very weird editing in places where it doesn’t flow from one section to the next properly. Other than that, business as usual. I’ve signed up for the months free trial of Take 2 to see if it’s worth it.

 

Edit: top 10 still intact, just at the end of the show now. Phew.

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Yeah the editing is a bit amateur, which is surprising seeing as they seemingly brought along the whole production crew from the BBC as well. One part in particular Mayo didn't even finish speaking the sentence before it cut to a new segment.

 

It is, however, more of the same which is what I wanted. Not enough to pay for the "Second Take" though. 

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1 hour ago, Bazjam said:

Yeah, more of the same. About half way through, but may stop there to spare myself from Tom Hiddleston.

 

It sorta staggers me that most British actors are all poshos.

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1 hour ago, Festoon said:

 

It sorta staggers me that most British actors are all poshos.

I think it’s a very real problem within our arts at the moment. Good elocution often gets mistaken for good acting these days, and Tom Hiddleston is a prime example of that. Working class actors so rarely break through these days. 

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12 minutes ago, Bazjam said:

I think it’s a very real problem within our arts at the moment. Good elocution often gets mistaken for good acting these days, and Tom Hiddleston is a prime example of that. Working class actors so rarely break through these days. 

 

I'm trying to think of some. Paddy Considine?

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15 minutes ago, Bazjam said:

I think it’s a very real problem within our arts at the moment. Good elocution often gets mistaken for good acting these days, and Tom Hiddleston is a prime example of that. Working class actors so rarely break through these days. 

 

I think it used to be that, and it's something Michael Caine complained about in the past. I think it's more now, with the continued erosion of the welfare state, that only actors (or artists, musicians etc) from a privileged background can support themselves until they make it.

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John Boyega?

 

Theres a good article here where in an interview Daisy Ridley seemed oblivious to the benefits her upbringing had to her career, equating herself somewhat stupidly to John Boyega growing up on s council estate to immigrant parents.

 

https://www.nme.com/news/film/daisy-ridley-denies-she-is-privileged-says-her-co-star-john-boyegas-situation-is-similar-to-hers-2584943

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