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9 hours ago, Bacon Horsemeat said:

 

exactly! there were so many pressure points and periods where she held her own and came out top. All the time I see Brits - in all sports - break down.

 

9 hours ago, choddo said:

That was a great match. Not used to Brits being so mentally composed.

Uhh... What? I'm guessing you don't watch the Olympics or Paralympics then? 

 

What odd comments.

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36 minutes ago, hmm said:

She's already set for life just from tennis and a few associated endorsements if she can maintain a top 30 level (and she has the talent to maintain top 10 at least). Since she's clearly very smart, and apparently also well advised, I'm optimistic that she won't now let herself appear on everything going, be the face of 12 different brands, and so on - I think it's unlikely that would turn out to be a good path to tread at this age and Osaka, the world's highest paid female athlete, is an all too visible example of the unhappiness that over exposure and perhaps lack of focus can bring. If Raducanu wants long term success in the sport, still with the side effect of getting rich beyond most people's dreams, she needs to look at Nadal for a role model. It does seem like she already kept a lid on it post Wimbledon, when she presumably already had offers flooding in, and hopefully that remains the case. If I was involved in advising her, I'm not sure I'd even recommend coming back to the UK for a few weeks, to let things calm down a bit.


It’s women’s tennis. Who knows what her or Fernandez’s career might be like. Unlike the men’s, it’s astonishingly flat with anyone beating anyone else on their day and multiple teen grand slam champions who then wait years for their next shot.

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10 hours ago, Mortis said:

Wow 18 and being handed $2.5 million - madness. 

 

I think it's really embarrassing that the US Open make a big deal of handing the cheque over. No other major sporting event does this.  It's so lacking in class.  They even mention JP Morgan to add a further layer of cringeworthyness.  It should be about lifting the trophy, and the cheque presentation gets in the way and distracts from it. It's not a gameshow FFS!

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12 minutes ago, feltmonkey said:

 

I think it's really embarrassing that the US Open make a big deal of handing the cheque over. No other major sporting event does this.  It's so lacking in class.  They even mention JP Morgan to add a further layer of cringeworthyness.  It should be about lifting the trophy, and the cheque presentation gets in the way and distracts from it. It's not a gameshow FFS!


You do know it was in America, right? 

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37 minutes ago, feltmonkey said:

 

I think it's really embarrassing that the US Open make a big deal of handing the cheque over. No other major sporting event does this.  It's so lacking in class.  They even mention JP Morgan to add a further layer of cringeworthyness. 

 

hahaha the thing that stuck in my head was the "Now someone from JP Morgan, head of asset management, will hand you a cheque".... like, urgh.

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It wasn't even a giant cheque! Talk about lack of class.

 

2 hours ago, footle said:

It’s women’s tennis. Who knows what her or Fernandez’s career might be like. Unlike the men’s, it’s astonishingly flat with anyone beating anyone else on their day and multiple teen grand slam champions who then wait years for their next shot.

 

True, but I was more talking about a sustained career in the top 10/20/30 rather than necessarily accumulating 20 slams. I don't think there are all that many examples of female players winning one of the major tournaments at a young age and then wholly disappearing. You don't even need to actually win much really! Sabalenka is world no. 2, and was briefly no. 1, and has been winning exactly one singles WTA 1000 title a year so far. Clearly there are always risks - obviously serious injury apart from anything else - but I do think they might be preferable to the risks involved in letting the tabloids turn her into the next Rooney. Both Raducanu and Fernandez have such ridiculously proficient all-court games that I really doubt either is going to disappear back into obscurity if they focus on their talent rather than other distractions.

 

Also, the relative competitiveness of men's and women's tennis is at least as much down to the 5 vs 3 set slams as the field. Men's ATP 1000/500 tournaments are far more open, and especially in more recent years since the traditional top 3 started to pick and choose more. Djokovic would have been knocked out of the French Open twice over this year (Musetti, Tsitsipas) if it was a 3 set event! Rublev is world #7 and hasn't won anything above an ATP 500.

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Amazing tennis on display last night from both players, it was truly brilliant. Emma is a deserving champion and instant superstar, she seems like she has a good team behind her to keep her focused, she's going to need that close support when our disgusting press decide to start publishing bullshit about her. And yeah the US Open is particularly unclassy in handing over cheques before the trophy, no other Grand Slam does that...

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17 minutes ago, Opinionated Ham Scarecrow said:

It's like Leicester winning the prem all over again but even more unbelievable. It still hasn't sunk in for me. God knows how Emma is feeling. What a star.

 

I still think Leicester was far more crazy than this. I'm not downplaying it, but that was a full squad of players who massively overachieved as opposed to one person.

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The financial reward for winning womens singles, doubles and mixed doubles at Wimbledon 1967 (just before the Open Era) was

 

Spoiler

A £45 gift voucher

At that time US women were paid $28 per diem during the US championships.  Players of other nationalities were financially supported far more generously, despite being officially amateur.

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2 hours ago, ryodi said:

Not comparable in age but Anna Kiensenhofer winning the women’s Olympic road race is comparable on a shock result level.

 

Man I was so happy for her I was screaming at the telly. I NEVER do that but an early breakaway is ALWAYS caught (almost).

 

Genuinely thought I was going to have a heart attack.

 

Amazing scenes.

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1 minute ago, Miner Willy said:

I'd like to see the data, because I don't think Medvedev is hitting his cross court rally backhand as hard as normal. 

 

Some really quite horrible shots from Djokovic at times here. 

I don’t think I’ve ever seen him hit as many unforced errors when he’s in control of the point.

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2 minutes ago, Miner Willy said:

Agree - shocking stuff. Have your ever seen him look so mentally lost?

 

Surely done now.


not since 2011 or so.

Its that he’s not able to chase balls he’d normally chase - that last point in medvedevs service game, for example.

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