Wii Fit + Wii Fit Plus

[Leneux]

Oh god, imagine that bag kicking game with this controller

That's the only one I remember being any good at. That would be quite hot.

[therearerules]

Okay, what is the separation?

And why will most gamers dislike it? Most gamers I know love things like Singstar, Buzz, Guitar Heroes and DDR.

What's the seperation? People who don't play games but bought a wii because it's like real tennis, and people like us.

Because those are party games or rythym action games (or both). This is something to help you keep fit and take advantage of nintendo's 'blue ocean strategy'. Can you honestly say doing a slow dance, press ups, or yoga will appeal to traditional gamers as much as those things you listed?

I'm not trying to be contentious here, and I'm not claiming people who are looking forward to this aren't gamers, just that this is clearly not aimed at us, nintendo know it and we know it. And rolling eye smilies and calling people stupid doesn't change that.

I think Nintendo are also pretty brave to make this their big showcase. They KNOW there's going to be WTFs all over the online community - and I think that's part of the point.

Gaming is no longer JUST about us... I think that was one of the key messages of the conference.

That's what I've been saying. I hope you lot go after scottcr now too.

[Rex Grossman]

So Wii Sports in 2007 and Wii Fit in 2008? As long as Nintendo knock out one of these crowd-pleasing games per calendar year most people will be happy.

[Capwn]

Oh wow yeah, another addition to my initial thoughts...

WHICH celeb will they get to promote it in the UK??

Geri? , Anthea Turner?, Vanessa Feltz?...Mr Motivator?

[milko]

"I'd rather get fit by getting on my real bike and going for a ride..."

Is I guess what we're going to hear a lot of, but in the same way a lot of people said "Wii Sports?! I'd rather play tennis for real if I have to do the actions thanks". And there's clearly space for both. I would assume there's enough 'fun' stuff as well as actually getting fit in here to make it appeal to lots of people.

[Capwn]

So Wii Sports in 2007 and Wii Fit in 2008? As long as Nintendo knock out one of these crowd-pleasing games per calendar year most people will be happy.

I was expecting it to come out end of 2007. If you think about it though it makes sense to bring it out in January...

rubbish celeb in wii fit advert "Oh, I don't know about you but I had a LITTLE too much food over xmas! Oh whats this? Wii Fit? What a GREAT idea to lose those calories gained during xmas!"

ITPRINTSMONEY.GIF

[Rex Grossman]

Is I guess what we're going to hear a lot of, but in the same way a lot of people said "Wii Sports?! I'd rather play tennis for real if I have to do the actions thanks".

People hadn't 'played' tennis in their living room before. Millions already do aerobics in front of a TV.

[milko]

So? Now they can do it a different and more interactive way. If they want. Which lots will, natch.

[Rex Grossman]

I was expecting it to come out end of 2007. If you think about it though it makes sense to bring it out in January...

rubbish celeb in wii fit advert "Oh, I don't know about you but I had a LITTLE too much food over xmas! Oh whats this? Wii Fit? What a GREAT idea to lose those calories gained during xmas!"

ITPRINTSMONEY.GIF

People want things to be cheap in January though. Their bellies might be full to bursting, but their wallets/purses aren't.

Will people forgo January sales to buy full-price exercise equipment?

[Rex Grossman]

So? Now they can do it a different and more interactive way. If they want. Which lots will, natch.

I'm saying that people can moan 'I'll play tennis FOR REAL, thanks', but it's stupid for people to say 'I'll only do exercises in front of a TV if it's not a game'.

[Rsdio]

If this comes out and actually works as a way of exercising it'll probably make me get a Wii. I don't spend enough time playing games anymore to warrant buying a new console, but with this I could probably justify it to myself.

[Jack]

Will Gamespot have the "I-refuse-to-stand-up-while-playing-Wii-Sports" video reviewers covering this when it's released?

[Mr.Jeff]

I'd like to see them actually use the board for something other than just the fitness session stuff really. Like other people have said, things like surfing and skateboarding would be quite good for it but also, if it can tell your centre of gravity would it not be possible for some kind of pilotwings game? Lean forward or backward to go up or down, lean left and right to turn in said directions then use the nunchuck for acceleration control or somesuch?

[therearerules]

It could finally solve the lack of strafe in fps games. And jump could actually be jump. And so forth.

edit it won't though will it, because it's not bundled with the machine.

[dan_tm]

Of course it's for gamers. What a stupid thing to say.

What a stupid thing to say.

Anyway, a basic description of this product would be: brain training for the body. It's aimed at a similar market and will sell millions.

[Chosty]

Interestingly, but bizarrely, the BBC have news stories on the frankly quite boring redesigned PSP and the new XBox360 model, but no news story on WiiFit other than a single photo and caption.

[Apollo]

What a stupid thing to say.

Yes, you're exactly right. It specifically excludes gamers! It was deliberately designed to only appeal to people that hate games!

[dan_tm]

Yes, you're exactly right. It specifically excludes gamers! It was deliberately designed to only appeal to people that hate games!

I didn't say that, but this obviously isn't aimed at gamers. I have no idea why they dedicated almost half their E3 presentation to showing it off.

[Rowan Morrison]

It could finally solve the lack of strafe in fps games. And jump could actually be jump. And so forth.

edit it won't though will it, because it's not bundled with the machine.

But a game that wouldn't have strafe otherwise could implement the scales if you've got them. Imagine if you loaded up RE4 and found that the scales let you strafe. Or imagine just starting the rumour.

[WesT]

After watching the video on youtube, I think this comment sums it up perfectly:-

jumpbutton (4 hours ago)

XD i like all the fat ppl saying it guy u pussy get a work out u know this will sell and give u a good ass <_ < and we all about the ass

[Apollo]

I didn't say that, but this obviously isn't aimed at gamers.

So, you do agree with my post then that it is silly to say that it is not for gamers? All the gamers in my (little) office want to play it.

[dan_tm]

So, you do agree with my post then that it is silly to say that it is not for gamers? All the gamers in my (little) office want to play it.

Yes, anyone could 'play' it, but I don't think it's aimed at the people who are most likely to be browsing this forum and watching E3. Therefore what therearerules said about the negative reaction being expected is completely right. Most of us here aren't going to care for this device.

[Apollo]

Yes, anyone could 'play' it, but I don't think it's aimed at the people who are most likely to be browsing this forum and watching E3. Therefore what therearerules said about the negative reaction being expected is completely right. Most of us here aren't going to care for this device.

Again, I don't see the point in saying that a new style of game isn't specifically aimed at people who really like old style games. It's a pretty pointless, obvious thing to say. Out of the 3 people (traditional gamers, as you lot like to say) that read this board in this office all 3 want to play this game.

Of course, those people aren't drama queens proclaiming the end of Nintendo, nigh gaming itself, as we know it.

[Zathras]

I didn't say that, but this obviously isn't aimed at gamers. I have no idea why they dedicated almost half their E3 presentation to showing it off.

Well it's a fun interactive thing to do with your TV, so in that sense it's a videogame. It could be one of Nintendo's most important releases - so it makes perfect sense to give it so much attention at E3.

[therearerules]

Again, I don't see the point in saying that a new style of game isn't specifically aimed at people who really like old style games. It's a pretty pointless, obvious thing to say. Out of the 3 people (traditional gamers, as you lot like to say) that read this board in this office all 3 want to play this game.

Of course, those people aren't drama queens proclaiming the end of Nintendo, nigh gaming itself, as we know it.

Apollo, nobody here is saying this will be the downfall of nintendo, in fact we all agree it will sell amazing numbers. All we are saying is it's clearly not aimed at us traditional gamers, something you disagreed with completely, and are now saying it's an obvious and pointless thing to say. How is it obvious if you disagreed with it? And why is it a pointless thing to say, when it can be used to succinctly sum up and predict the varying reactions to the game?

[therearerules]

Well it's a fun interactive thing to do with your TV, so in that sense it's a videogame. It could be one of Nintendo's most important releases - so it makes perfect sense to give it so much attention at E3.

Yeah, this encapsulates nintendo's entire plan, shows off some new hardware, and surely a massive trade event with the press would be the best place to reveal the thing.

[dan_tm]

Let me put it another way; I think this could sell more Wii's than Super Mario Galaxy. Which do you think 'gamers' are going to buy more of?

[Apollo]

Apollo, nobody here is saying this will be the downfall of nintendo, in fact we all agree it will sell amazing numbers. All we are saying is it's clearly not aimed at us traditional gamers, something you disagreed with completely, and are now saying it's an obvious and pointless thing to say.

A year off the board and within a few days I'm involved in a semantic argument. I'll never learn.

I objected to the statement "this is not for gamers". It is for gamers just as much as the 'wider' audience. In fact, there will be miles more people in the 'wider' audience that will not like this than there will be in the 'gamers' group (i.e in terms of % penetration of gamers vs 'others').

And as for the other bit, did you read the Nintendo E3 thread? They show 3 non-traditional games and around 10 traditional ones and suddenly theirturning there back on us.

[therearerules]

A year off the board and within a few days I'm involved in a semantic argument. I'll never learn.

I objected to the statement "this is not for gamers". It is for gamers just as much as the 'wider' audience. In fact, there will be miles more people in the 'wider' audience that will not like this than there will be in the 'gamers' group (i.e in terms of % penetration of gamers vs 'others').

And as for the other bit, did you read the Nintendo E3 thread? They show 3 non-traditional games and around 10 traditional ones and suddenly theirturning there back on us.

I corrected myself with regards to 'for gamers' vs 'aimed at gamers' as soon as you brought it up. http://www.rllmukforum.com/index.php?s=&am...t&p=4202347

As for tunring their backs on gamers, I haven't said, and wouldn't* say that.

*unless they actually didi do it for some reason.

[Zathras]

Let me put it another way; I think this could sell more Wii's than Super Mario Galaxy. Which do you think 'gamers' are going to buy more of?

Sure, but Nintendo's whole aim in life at the moment is to broaden the concept of what a gamer is. So it made sense to have a big song and dance about it.