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Even though my name is in the credits and I'll be getting a free copy at some point, I'm still buying the LE day one :D I love this game. The atmosphere, the voice acting, the handling of the cars and weapons, just love it.

*Edit* oh, how did I forget... the music!! :omg::o

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Really like everything i played (360) but the framerate is absolutely killing it for me,making aiming really awkward and it just feel wrong, like it's got pc port written all over it. What makes it worse is the end of the demo shows some great footage (presumably from the PC version) with it's super smooth gunplay :(. It's a game breaker for me, so will wait to see if the final copy is more optimised.

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I'll probably get this game, I've heard it is not too long, which is perfect because I can easily finish it before all the September releases.

Game looks fantastic on PC, not so much on the 360. PS3 version is the worst of the lot, it doesn't even have proper grass. This game might be the start of a great divide between PC and console versions, although this requires developers to actually put some effort in with the PC versions.

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Ill try out the pc demo tonight, from the sounds of it the console versions are a bit graphically gimped, i dont know if i could take playing an inferior version..

I remember my PC back in the day could only barely run mafia 1, and its a game tha tlooks like it really deserves to be played with all its bells and whistles on max. If the demo runs poorly, ill opt for 360, if it runs well, i might jsut go with PC (only problem being i dont have regular access to my PC) :(

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Well I just pre-purchased Mafia 2 on Steam :D I got a nice free copy of Mafia 1 for my troubles - it's been ages since I played some crummy yarr of the first game, so it's nice to finally have a 100% legit version. And striving to go legit fits perfectly with the theme of this game of course. Anyway, thought I'd fire up Mafia 1 and even though it has aged a lot, it holds up surprisingly well thanks to the amazing atmosphere in the game. Good stuff.

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Well I just pre-purchased Mafia 2 on Steam :D I got a nice free copy of Mafia 1 for my troubles - it's been ages since I played some crummy yarr of the first game, so it's nice to finally have a 100% legit version. And striving to go legit fits perfectly with the theme of this game of course. Anyway, thought I'd fire up Mafia 1 and even though it has aged a lot, it holds up surprisingly well thanks to the amazing atmosphere in the game. Good stuff.

I hope they included the patch to fix the impossible-to-win race car section :facepalm:

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Just tried the demo of this.

Loved the world and the music. Cutscenes and voice acting were decent. The biggest plus of this game, and by far the biggest flaw, is that it feels so familiar. Goodfellas, The Godfather, The Untouchables, Casino, all these films are burned so deep into my brain that Mafia 2 immediately feels comfortably accessible but also like I might have completed it before. Take that into consideration and it comes down to moments; tommy-gunning a car, executing a neighbourhood policeman, getting into an old style police chase, soaking up the world - and I'm not sure there will be enough of those to carry me through a plot I've already seen in my head a dozen times over.

Back to specifics. I didn't like the way the characters moved ( when running they seemed to be skating ), and the gunplay bored me a bit. I find when the Gears of War cover mechanic is used without any of the overblown machismo it feels quite anemic, crucially here it seemed to be lacking a sense of...weight, I think. I did want to play more but not in a compulsive way, it feels like the kind of thing to competently kill a few hours on a rainy day but little more for me, alas.

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Yeah, I got the feeling while playing the game yesterday that it marked the inevitable point in every console life cycle where the PC takes over again in terms of graphics, if you can afford to do a game justice.

PCs really aren't that expensive any more, I built my first PC last year for around £600 and over £200 of that was on a 1080p monitor and Windows 7 and it runs most things, including Mafia 2, at high settings at 1080p and a lot of games at ultra.

Compare that to the £1200 I spent back in the late 90s. For anyone thinking of going self build it really is very simple to do, took me less than 2 hours and this was my first home build.

Back to Mafia 2, it's amazing this game seems to be optimised best for PC yet the controls are pretty bad on the PC in all honesty, looks like I'll have to pick up a 360 pad which is something I've meant to do for a while now. Do the wireless 360 pads work on PC as well?

EDIT: just watched that side by side comparison, quite a difference isn't there

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Just played the PC demo. Bloody hell :blink:

Havent seen a game this graphically impressive in a long time. Looks absolutely staggering at times. Runs at a perfectly stable 30 fps, outdoor sections it goes up to 40 fps. PC purchase confirmed. I took a ton of screens, and a 3gb fraps movie....and then saw that for some reason they were all corrupted :facepalm:

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Downloaded the PS3 demo earlier. Love it. The detail is just breathtaking, some little moments that created a superb ambience, even in the limited time frame of the demo. As I was about to leave the house in the demo, Rock Around The Clock began playing on the radio. Changed into a swish suit with matching hat and walked out into the world. Lovely. :wub:

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Yeah, I got the feeling while playing the game yesterday that it marked the inevitable point in every console life cycle where the PC takes over again in terms of graphics, if you can afford to do a game justice.

Surely that was three or four years ago? Most multiformat games have had at least one extra step of texture and model detail, better draw distances, 2x the resolution, proper anti-aliasing, steady framerates and (for those with swanky modern GPUs) extra physics and lighting gubbins on a £500-600 PC since at least the first lot of Unreal 3.0/id Tech 4 games. Sure, the ultra top end of PC hardware doesn't really get you any benefit, but a GPU that can comfortably and noticeably outperform the 360/PS3's is under a 100 quid now. The idea that you're not getting any less of an experience with sub-30fps, blurrily scaled up tear-o-thons is a bit of an anachronism.

ANYWAY...

I was blown away by the demo. I had high expectations, but I'd forgotten just how skilled 2k Czech are at making scalable engines. It's so slick. My PC feels like its going to die running GTA4, but bounced this around at 60fps with ease. I'm sure it's doing some kind of SoTC-style trickery outdoors.

However. I'm slightly worried that they've made the game too GTA-ish just to make it accessible to a modern audience. It's good to never have to fiddle about with the controls when exploring the city, but it felt almost like Mercenaries 2 in its 'weightlessness' in some places. The first game felt really solid.

I'd like to see that city at different times and in different weather (remembering how atmospheric the night sections of the first game were).

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The video it plays you when you exit the demo has some very impressive looking day/night cycle and weather effects.

By SoTC-style trickery, you mean LOD? It's does it *really* well - it's very hard to notice.

I still maintain you should be able to climb through the damn windows, grr. And I still have no idea how to escape fist fights without pulling my gun. Otherwise, i'm very tempted to get this.

Is everyone switching driving to 'simulation' in the options? It's a lot more satisfying IMO.

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The PS3 demo for this is pretty horrible, and from what I can gather there's no point in my downloading the 360 version as they're just as bad as each other. There's tearing all over the place, the framerate fluctuates a lot and I'm surprised all the jaggies aren't tearing through my LCD. In terms of assets it might be nice, but all of that's completely undermined by the terrible performance issues.

Technical aspects aside I enjoyed the demo, I just don't think I could put up with playing the game on a console in this state. Perhaps a game to come back to should I ever get a new PC.

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Perhaps I have low standards or something, but I had no problems with any of the demo. Admittedly I haven't gone on extensive runs of it, just two playthroughs, but I thought it looked really rather lovely and flowed nicely, not an instance of a lagging framerate. If I had to pick at a niggle then I will admit that when driving, some buildings on the edges of the screen seemed a tad unfocused. Nothing major though as it was peripheral imagery, on the outskirts of the screen.

I quite like driving responsibly. :unsure:

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Perhaps I have low standards or something, but I had no problems with any of the demo. Admittedly I haven't gone on extensive runs of it, just two playthroughs, but I thought it looked really rather lovely and flowed nicely, not an instance of a lagging framerate. If I had to pick at a niggle then I will admit that when driving, some buildings on the edges of the screen seemed a tad unfocused. Nothing major though as it was peripheral imagery, on the outskirts of the screen.

I quite like driving responsibly. :unsure:

Did you not notice the horrific screen tearing in the house at the start? Once your outside it isn't too bad, I think the huge difference between PC and consoles is what is causing some of the complaints.Hopefully this demo is just an earlier build that hasn't be properly optimized for consoles.

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Did you not notice the horrific screen tearing in the house at the start? Once your outside it isn't too bad, I think the huge difference between PC and consoles is what is causing some of the complaints.Hopefully this demo is just an earlier build that hasn't be properly optimized for consoles.

Can't say I did. Probably helps that I'm not a PC gamer, so I'm not familiar with the often graphically superior versions of games. That and my eyesight is pretty poor, so without my specs everything looks like some muddy avant-garde nonsense. Thought it looked fine, exceptional even. The facial animation in the cutscenes I was pretty fond of, looked far more believable and expressive than I usually expect from games.

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Ouch, the PS3 version is very rough graphically. It's quite nice indoors, but outdoors... :o. Jaggyfest, lower quality textures. Not too impressed.

I've seen people say that this game really shows that consoles are starting to show their age and that the PC has really taken over now but I disagree.

Imo, this game is just not really optimized well for consoles. Look at what Uncharted 2 on the PS3 does, or hell even Red Dead Redemption on the 360. Both games are so crisp, sharp, high res textures etc.

IF devs really put a lot of effort in the graphics department of their game on a console then some really stunning stuff can be achieved.

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Pre ordered the PC version after playing the demo. First time this gen ive gotten a multi platform game on PC rather than 360 (which is the console i game on most frequently, PS3 is the red headed stepchild of my gaming family). But after playing the PC version there was no way i could play anything that looked worse, it just looks fucking phenomenal. Even the physics on the cars when you crash feels so realistic and has such weight. I dont care if GTA4 is more fun, and you can fling a car off a building, this feels more realistic, and even the few street gunfights i got into with the cops felt like they had more weight, and more realism than anything in GTA.

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I just wish someone could make a game in this vein where the cops aren't totally fucking stupid. I'd like to see a more ambitious crime simulation that would run its course depending on what you do, when and where. I moaned about realism earlier, but it's still very much a GTA clone.

If you pop someone in the middle of the street, the police could put up police lines, and a little microcosm of activity could occur (forensics/ambulance/bodies carted off). The police will information gather, and if everyone in the surrounding area saw you commit the crime, the police put the pieces together. Stalking people and killing them in alleyways is the key. Or at night. You could involve the disposing of weapons, or burying corpses. Maybe slinging them in the boot and sending the car into the docks, or possibly take them along to Satriale's Pork Store. ;)

This is sounding a bit Hitman I suppose...but still. :doh:

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I invested in a proper gaming PC about a year ago for the first time in my life (I'm 33 and I've been gaming since I was 8 or 9 so it was about time) and I can honestly say that Mafia 2 totally justifies that investment. I've played the demo countless times and only done the mission twice, most of the time I'm just wandering or driving around, abiding traffic rules and admiring the amazing graphics and the brilliant atmosphere. I love it :wub:

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I was interested in this game for quite a while but the 360 demo was just horrible to look at. Both GTA4 and Red Dead Redemption take a giant shit on this technically. Walking in front of the mirror of your house was one of the most hilarious things I've seen in a game in ages and when I stepped outside it felt like my eyes were going to be sliced open by the jaggies. No way I'm playing something that performs so terribly, definitely one for the PC owners.

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I invested in a proper gaming PC about a year ago for the first time in my life (I'm 33 and I've been gaming since I was 8 or 9 so it was about time) and I can honestly say that Mafia 2 totally justifies that investment. I've played the demo countless times and only done the mission twice, most of the time I'm just wandering or driving around, abiding traffic rules and admiring the amazing graphics and the brilliant atmosphere. I love it :wub:

This :wub:

I put 2 hours into the demo yesterday!! For the first time this gen ive played a game that made me think "wow...consoles definitely couldnt do this". Well, Crysis aside, obv. But it really is just an incredible looking game.

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