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You state that 'a bad film is a bad film' - yet you also state that it's dull, overly long and irritating; which are clearly subjective issues that you have with it. Maybe the fact that not everyone finds it dull, overly long or irritating means that it's not actually that bad.

As I said earlier, I enjoyed it. Maybe I'm a bit soft. Or an idiot.

That must be it.

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Of course, I'm hoping that the movie title does not refer to the Dreamwave character of the same name. I liked the concept of a fallen angel, but he came across as a two dimensional villain that suffered from DW's need to repeatedly produce a world shattering story in six installments.

I'd be surprised if they went down that route as it would mean they would have to put in a whole new backstory for a new set of characters when they didn't develop the first bunch at all.

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I'd be surprised if they went down that route as it would mean they would have to put in a whole new backstory for a new set of characters when they didn't develop the first bunch at all.

Presumably the Fallen just refers to Megatron?

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The Fallen has a head like an EVIL Optimus Prime and is black and wreathed in FLAMES. Michael Bay probably hasn't stopped wanking furiously since he found out about him.

I don't usually but: :P

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Or possibly both? :(

Personally, I thought the movie was fantastic. I respect that everyone has an opinion, but I don't feel the need to feel validated or pay attention to anyone who disliked it.

Of course, I'm hoping that the movie title does not refer to the Dreamwave character of the same name. I liked the concept of a fallen angel, but he came across as a two dimensional villain that suffered from DW's need to repeatedly produce a world shattering story in six installments.

I don't mind people saying they don't like it, that's fine. People have described plenty of reasons that they dislike it, which are fair when you're talking about something as subjective as a film.

It's the arrogant comments like Festoon's that get my back up - and the suggestion that having a differing opinion means you're an idiot. It just makes him come across as a bit of a tit.

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Festoon

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I don't mind people saying they don't like it, that's fine. People have described plenty of reasons that they dislike it, which are fair when you're talking about something as subjective as a film.

It's the arrogant comments like Festoon's that get my back up - and the suggestion that having a differing opinion means you're an idiot. It just makes him come across as a bit of a tit.

Never my intention and i'm not one to get in forum fights generally. Most of my comments are a little tongue-in-cheek. I am genuinely baffled over the love for this film though. Still, some people liked Spiderman 3 so it takes all sorts.

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Never my intention and i'm not one to get in forum fights generally. Most of my comments are a little tongue-in-cheek. I am genuinely baffled over the love for this film though. Still, some people liked Spiderman 3 so it takes all sorts.

Fair do's. I've got Spiderman 3 to watch with the nipper at some point! ;)

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It needs to have Skywarp in it. And I wonder how amazing they could make Unicron, But without Welles to voice it, it wouldnt be the same. Can someone post pics of "The Fallen" and do we know thats whats being referenced in the title or is that just speculation?

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I was reading about this the other day, the fallen is actually

optimus primes brother :(

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.::: You mean...?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4149...L500_AA280_.jpg

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Actually, reading the Wikipedia page about The Fallen, it seems you have skim-read it and confused Primus with being Optimus Prime and The Fallen with being Unicron. Don't hit me if I'm wrong. ;P

Whatever the case, I only wish for it to have Galvatron vaporising (the ugly) Starscream.

That and Soundwave.

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:D

Haven't seen the first one but... Actually I have nothing to say. Just felt that I should so that I didn't just post a smiley face dude.

Ha, I don't remember this post at all. Don't even know what I was laughing at, it wasn't funny.

Anyway I watched Transformers last night... Two hours of total shit followed by an awesome battle at the end.

"This is 100 times cooler than Armageddon" made me feel sick.

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Trailer News -

On the DonMurphy blog, writer of the upcoming "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen," Robert Orci, answered a question about when we will see the first teaser for the film.

In the usual secretive manner, Orci replied: "Maybe -- or maybe in front of EAGLE EYE... who knows."

"Eagle Eye," also starring Shia LaBeouf and also by DreamWorks, hits theaters on September 26th, which is exactly nine months before "Transformers 2" will appear in theaters. The conclusion being here is that we probably won't see too much footage in this teaser trailer.

Looking at the first "Transformers" film, which was released on July 3rd, 2007... The first teaser trailer appeared online one year earlier, on July 3rd, 2006 and we all remember how much footage from the film we got to see... Zero.

In other news, Shia Lebeowulf's recent arrest for drinking-driving which resulted in him injuring his hand isn't expected to delay filming.

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Susan Blu (voice of Arcee) claims the internet rumour is untrue - Orson Welles finished his lines before he died.

Thats true, I saw an interview with the director who said that Welles was in a really bad state when recording his lines and that his voice had to be enhanced during the edit of the film after his death as most of it was unusable, although he did manage to record all of it before he sadly passed away.

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Trailer News -

In other news, Shia Lebeowulf's recent arrest for drinking-driving which resulted in him injuring his hand isn't expected to delay filming.

Twat! Let me guess, he was driving a yellow sports car & thought it would cover for him! :o

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Q&A done by co-scriptwriter Roberto Orci -

About Writing Shia’s hand injury into the Script: “Luckily nothing has to be reshot. Yes, we were on set last week to write it into the movie, not because it’s absolutely necessary, but more because we want to make sure Shia’s hand is protected for the remainder of the shoot…”

On the Leftovers from the First Film: “There were a a couple things we couldn’t do [in Transformers 1 due to] budget, but also because they seemed too “out there” to the studio. Some of those things we get to do in the second movie. After we see it, I’ll point out which.”

Regarding the budget for the sequel: “Yes we do get a bit more dough. Expect an upgrade. And we also know better what we can do this time to maximize the mighty buck. And we have the secret weapon that is Ian Bryce.”

Length of Transformers 2: “Going by the length of the script can be tricky because the action is longer in reality than on the page. We’re trying to keep it to two hours, but I get a feeling it’ll be about the same as movie 1.”

On the Structure of the Sequel: “[Transformers] had 3 plot lines — A boy and his car, soldiers behind enemy lines, and defense policy people — all reacting to Transformers in a somewhat multiple point of view disaster movie paradigm and structure. Part two will be a different paradigm. More like parallel stories.”

Location of the Sequel: “The story for part 2 is more global, for sure.”

Inspirations for Transformers 2: “Back to the Future, Jurassic Park, Close Encounters and Terminator 2.” “We were emulating the style of movie from the old Amblin days, like Back to the Future and Gremlins, which if you watch today are still very funny. Also, the cartoon itself was quite funny. Also, comedy makes things more accessible to a larger audience.”

On Michael Bay’s Misinformation Claims: “We knew the names of most, but [Michael Bay] was so upset by leak that he put out a bit of disinformation, even claiming that we, the writers, had no idea which characters we were writing, which as I hope is painfully obvious, is absurd on its face.”

On the difference between the first and second films: “The first movie is all about the mystery and reveal of the Transformers as a concept and a species, which means we had to hide them a lot in the first hour. In the second movie, now that everyone believes in the universe, we can jump right into the world of the Transformers.” … “The hardest aspect is that you lose the element of surprise. We got away with a lot in the first movies because for a long time, no one thought it would work, or that it was just a silly cartoon, and simply proving that wrong is all we had to do. The first movie was meant to be somewhat of a mystery. For the sequel, we need an entirely different structure and paradigm for the movie, and we can’t rely on it being the first.”

Themes in the Sequel: “One of the themes is about the responsibilities you face when being away from home — reflected by Sam going to college and by the fact that the Transformers themselves, are of course, far from Cybertron.”

Will the Sequel have any Transformers with Animal Modes like Scorponok? “All signs point to ‘probably.’”

The story of Jonah Hill: “Rumors are not exactly true. He came, he read for a while, and he left. Then days later we had a meeting with him to talk about his concerns, all of which were simple to deal with. He wanted to make sure it wasn’t too close to the character’s he’d been playing, and we told him it would be our pleasure to differentiate him. We all left the meeting smiling and laughing, and his agents and the studio started negotiating. We just couldn’t come up with a mutually satisfactory deal. Sometimes it’s s scheduling conflict, sometimes it’s that an actor only wants to agree to be in one movie at a time… etc. So all I can figure is some one who doesn’t know much saw him leave the read early, and assumed the rest. No hard feelings here.”

On the possibility of Robots with Three Alt Modes: “Two bot modes may be too much for 2. But later, who knows…”

Teaser Trailer: “Teaser will surely come out before the end of the year.”

On the Marketing: “Starting in November, you’ll start seeing the MASSIVE push…”

Film Title: “Alex Kurtzman came up with the title, and it was the only one we put up on the cover of the script.”

He also confirmed the film would be aiming for a PG-13 rating, and would be darker than the first.

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