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Thanks. :P

Well, at the end of the day, the only real difference (that I, with my limited experience noticed) is that the paint takes waaay longer to dry. On the plus side this allows you to blend colours on the canvas as you go, you can go away and come back and the paint you mixed on the pallete is still wet, and you can get away with not cleaning your brushes so often as they remain wet. You can paint very much the same as you do with acrylic, it's just a case of needing longer periods to allow it to dry. I was plonking it on the radiator to help it along near the end.

To be honest there was quite a few times when I thought, "Why didn't I just use acrylic??" ;)

Oils only take around 6 months to fully cure. However, they are touch dry much quicker depending on how fat or lean the paint layer is, and what pigment is used. I've been using oils for about 2 years now, and I've found white takes the longest to dry. Fat blue's and white pigments can take up to about 4 days to able to add another workable layer onto. Cooler, more earthy colors take slightly less.

Also, under no circumstances should you ever try to speed up the drying process by adding heat or sitting it on a radiator. The linseed doesn't take too well to that method. Often the pigment will either separate or underlying layers may crack. The process of fat over lean is essential as the fat layers (more oil) supply the lean layer underneath with moisture to stop it from cracking over time, or at least prolonging it. You can achieve some startling and beautiful results with oil once you understand their properties. Acrylics are OK for quick illustration work, but some results and effects are impossible to achieve with them that would otherwise be possible with oils. Perfect glazes is one example, and the depth you can get with the transparency of oils is another matter and more complicated.

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Hmm, well, i've not experienced any cracking. I imagine it's more of a problem if you paint like larry here, laying it on really thick. I shouldn't have such a problem as I never lay it on as thick as that. The old masters worked in the baking heat of Italy before AC was invented, and oil paint is a lot more sophisticated and resilient now... because it's not like, made of blood and horse shit and stuff. I reckon it'll be fine anyhoo.

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I'd love to sort you and others out with some cool stuff. Any idea what size you'd be wanting?

I do have a slight concern though. I've been told I could be part of an exhibition somewhere (by someone capable of setting one up) but I actually need some stuff to show... Not sure what to do. Hmmm.

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The one you've shown here looks nice and large, about A1 size I guess is it? I appreciate it'd cost more for a larger one. I could take some photos of my flat if that would help.

Could you do the painting, show it at exhibition and I'd buy it afterwards? Got a birthday coming up, that would be a good present to myself :lol:

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18*14 is a lovely size, I think. That better photo makes it look a lot nicer, reveals more detail and the tones are a lot more subtle. You been watching LW&C?

I've seen the first two. Really liking them. ;)

I actually sketched out a still from the first film on my canvas, then after seeing the second film, I realised it's a bit boring. It's got to be a close up of his contorted face splattered with blood after facing those ninja-women-bitches from hell on the paddy fields...much better. :D

Tis a shame rubbing pencil marks off a canvas is such a bitch. :lol:

Morcs, i'm confused. What size would you be interested in? :D

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I actually sketched out a still from the first film on my canvas, then after seeing the second film, I realised it's a bit boring. It's got to be a close up of his contorted face splattered with blood after facing those ninja-women-bitches from hell on the paddy fields...much better. :D

Yeah, see :(

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Yeah I meant A2!

Unfortunately though I've just found out my bank account isn't as healthy as I thought, and I'm going to have to pull out for the time being. Sorry about that, I'm sure it won't be hard to find other commissioners (if the word can be used that way) with the quality of work that you're showing here!

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Hmm, well, i've not experienced any cracking. I imagine it's more of a problem if you paint like larry here, laying it on really thick. I shouldn't have such a problem as I never lay it on as thick as that. The old masters worked in the baking heat of Italy before AC was invented, and oil paint is a lot more sophisticated and resilient now... because it's not like, made of blood and horse shit and stuff. I reckon it'll be fine anyhoo.

If you're putting a layer down at the top that hasn't had a solution added and is just more or less directly out of the tube then it's regarded as impasto. You may have never experienced any cracking in oils because, as you've stated, you've only just started using them. I haven't had any cracking either. However, none of my paintings have to stand the course of time. It's a fact that a painting will crack no matter what, but the extend is down to how you follow the rule of "fat over lean". If you want to make sure a painting lasts a life time and beyond, then it's paramount that this rule is followed correctly. The same principle applied hundreds of years ago as it does today, regardless of the quality of the medium.

Anyway, back to a painting I'm working on now. It's doing my fucking head in. I can't seem to get the tone and coloring right for an under-layer so that the layer on top displays the correct color. I've taken a cloth to it three times now.

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Well, I pretty much always thin down the paint with sansodor. If I don't, the paint doesn't tend to flow on the canvas, and i'd never get smooth lines that way. Also - dude, put up some work. :o

Yeah I meant A2!

Unfortunately though I've just found out my bank account isn't as healthy as I thought, and I'm going to have to pull out for the time being. Sorry about that, I'm sure it won't be hard to find other commissioners (if the word can be used that way) with the quality of work that you're showing here!

Don't worry about it chap, it's nice simply to receive the interest. I'm encouraged to make a real go of it. Anyway, one at a time is plenty. :(

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Well, I pretty much always thin down the paint with sansodor. If I don't, the paint doesn't tend to flow on the canvas, and i'd never get smooth lines that way. Also - dude, put up some work. :o

I'll need a good digi cam for that, and most of my work is commissioned or sold; but I do have some digital work with Photoshop on Youtube

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Nah, I deleted her and everyone after one of her friends told me to get lost out of the blue, but it seems they all feel that way. This was just after I booked a flight to go see them. Oh well, fuck 'em. Not worth my time any more.

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