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He admits to being a congenital liar and is, of course, an actor.

And we've all lied before, and shirked responsibility. He's also had a lot of time to think about what he's done. He admitted as much in the interview. Long enough to realise that if he can just ride this out, he might not be considered as being someone with a sexual interest in children anymore.

And I'm still not sure of his innocence in that respect. Nor his abuse story.

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There was an extensive interview with Langham and his wife in the Observer the other week.

I know paedophiles are accomplished liars, and it's most likely he's being disingenuous, but as a fan of his work I find myself imagining the possibility that he's telling the truth, and I can't help but feel sympathetic. What a nightmare it would be for your life to be destroyed in this way after a momentary error of judgement.

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There was an extensive interview with Langham and his wife in the Observer the other week.

I know paedophiles are accomplished liars, and it's most likely he's being disingenuous, but as a fan of his work I find myself imagining the possibility that he's telling the truth, and I can't help but feel sympathetic. What a nightmare it would be for your life to be destroyed in this way after a momentary error of judgement.

"Langham says that in January 2005 he searched for the clips in question on a free file-sharing website. He found 15 files but only looked at the first few seconds of four of them. The others continued to download on his computer, he says, without his knowledge. There were no warning banners to alert him to the nature of the videos, although their names did contain terms such as 'Lolita', 'incest', 'rape', 'whore' and 'hussy'."

I mean, come on, Graham.

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"Langham says that in January 2005 he searched for the clips in question on a free file-sharing website. He found 15 files but only looked at the first few seconds of four of them. The others continued to download on his computer, he says, without his knowledge. There were no warning banners to alert him to the nature of the videos, although their names did contain terms such as 'Lolita', 'incest', 'rape', 'whore' and 'hussy'."

I mean, come on, Graham.

Does he think Limewire has a child porn detector or something? If it did, it wouldn't be there to warn the user, put it that way...

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"Langham says that in January 2005 he searched for the clips in question on a free file-sharing website. He found 15 files but only looked at the first few seconds of four of them. The others continued to download on his computer, he says, without his knowledge. There were no warning banners to alert him to the nature of the videos, although their names did contain terms such as 'Lolita', 'incest', 'rape', 'whore' and 'hussy'."

I mean, come on, Graham.

I can imagine that being some multiple file torrent, or whatever. Anyway, he admits he was out looking for child porn, even if he's maybe not being forthcoming about his motives. But I think there is a difference between clicking one link, seeing a few seconds of a couple of files and never watching the rest, than patiently building up a hidden collection of gigabytes of material over months and years.

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How did they catch him btw?

Part of Operation Ore. I'm not sure they've said exactly how (he didn't use a credit card, apparently). I assumed ISPs / the police monitor this sort of thing now. If the file sharing site was a torrent site it's not hard to track the IP address of someone who's downloading the file, I suppose.

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What is the difference between what Langham did compared to Pete Townsend?

Didn't they both download child porn and claim it was for research purposes?

Pete Townsend plays guitar! And is in a band!

Chris Langham just looks like lanky dirty paedo scum innit! With glasses and shit.

Somthing like that...

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What is the difference between what Langham did compared to Pete Townsend?

Didn't they both download child porn and claim it was for research purposes?

Townshend only got a caution because they had no evidence he ever had any images. They found his credit card details in a website's database, but that's all the police had to go on (the website payment might not have had anything to do with child porn, but Townshend seemed to imply something different in his public statements).

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Somthing that's probably of interest...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/st...2241395,00.html

Interesting article, and it certainly has its point about discussion that doesn't center on "Lock these sick bastards" up is taboo. Not sure I'm comfortable with the suggestion that just looking is in some way more acceptable. Maybe that's not what she was trying to say, or maybe I need to re-read it, but it's a feeling I got from the article.

With regards to Chris Langham, the stuff he had must have been really, really disturbing for him to end up in prison. My friend was eventually cautioned (I think) over this, and he had many hundreds, possibly even thousands of images. He was told he was lucky not to have any further action taken against him. It was only that he had a million times more normal porn that nothing further happened. Made a mess of his life though, attempted suicide, whole family distraught. Having your house raided at 6am by the police so they can take you and your computer away must be soul destroying for a family.

Obviously its not something we talk about with him, but the naivety of some of my friends scared me. I mean, at first, I kind of thought it was maybe just a few images, downloaded by mistake or whatever. Wishful thinking, you don't like to think that you could know someone for well over 15 years and find out about that. But it dawned on me fairly quickly that the police don't raid you for a few images you accidently downloaded.

I've just realised I don't really know what my point is or where I'm going with this, so I'm just going to shut up there.

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Interesting article, and it certainly has its point about discussion that doesn't center on "Lock these sick bastards" up is taboo. Not sure I'm comfortable with the suggestion that just looking is in some way more acceptable. Maybe that's not what she was trying to say, or maybe I need to re-read it, but it's a feeling I got from the article.

With regards to Chris Langham, the stuff he had must have been really, really disturbing for him to end up in prison. My friend was eventually cautioned (I think) over this, and he had many hundreds, possibly even thousands of images. He was told he was lucky not to have any further action taken against him. It was only that he had a million times more normal porn that nothing further happened. Made a mess of his life though, attempted suicide, whole family distraught. Having your house raided at 6am by the police so they can take you and your computer away must be soul destroying for a family.

Obviously its not something we talk about with him, but the naivety of some of my friends scared me. I mean, at first, I kind of thought it was maybe just a few images, downloaded by mistake or whatever. Wishful thinking, you don't like to think that you could know someone for well over 15 years and find out about that. But it dawned on me fairly quickly that the police don't raid you for a few images you accidently downloaded.

I've just realised I don't really know what my point is or where I'm going with this, so I'm just going to shut up there.

A friend of yours got done for child porn? How did that come about? I've seen some pretty dodgy-looking results on Limewire from typing in some fairly generic sex keywords. Did he download some?

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A friend of yours got done for child porn? How did that come about? I've seen some pretty dodgy-looking results on Limewire from typing in some fairly generic sex keywords. Did he download some?

Like I said, it's not something we've discussed with him to any great extent. I don't know what he did, but I get the impression that if you want that kind of stuff, there's only certain sites that'll have it, which I suppose get monitored by the police in some way. I think he just downloaded lots of the stuff, rather than using his credit card to get access to a specific website, but I'm only guessing here. I know it was getting to be around about the 1000 images mark. Dunno if he had videos or not. Doesn't bear thinking about at times. I remember seeing one picture during my time on the internet, and I've never been able to get it out of my head. Just absolutely awful. I really could not be a police officer who has to work with this stuff. I don't think I could ever get desensitised (?) to it all.

I've seen my mate's collection of normal porn before. He really did have fucking tons of the stuff. I assume he doesn't have any of it anymore. Either the police took it all away and never gave it back to him (would they do that anyway?) or he's just chucked it all. But you know you can get those stacks of like 50 CD-Rs, no cases or anything, in places like Woolworths for a tenner? He'd have 4 or 5 of those whole stacks just filled with porn. Never seen anything like it before. All had names or descriptions on them, knew what each one was roughly (to the extent that we were asking "What's "Anal College" like?" and he'd tell you how good or bad it was.)

Unbelievable.

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