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It's official. This thread's analysis of the numbers is better than Eurogamers.

How is it any way informative to tell you that console sales were down in January from Christmas? But as for last January, well at least it is like for like even if it is a year ago.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/console-...-per-cent-in-us

They realize that the numbers are only of true interest to the fanboys. Thus they start of ironically, and choose the stat that makes the ps3 look best to reap the page views from the comments.

At least, that's how I read eurogamers sales figures coverage. It's either that or they're statistically illiterate.

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The street fighter 4 effect, will be interesting to see if it drops off the charts after a couple of weeks or if it will stick around for ages.

It'll probably drop. I don't think anything has a chance of staying up there for long apart from Resident Evil 5. But the PS3 should get a decent boost there these next few weeks, with Street Fighter IV now, followed by Yakuza 3 and then of course Resident Evil 5 coming out a week after that.

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Here's some more fuel for the fire:

“It [Zack & Wiki] did not sell 500K units or anywhere near it. To the best of my knowledge, the 300K figure quoted by IR included European orders from Nintendo who published the title on our behalf in that territory. Nor did it do the volume it did do at anywhere near frontline pricing (in the US anyway). And what you think was a cheap game to make, wasn’t. Great games almost never are. Lastly, Okami Wii is not on track to outsell the PS2 version. The worldwide Okami Wii number might get to the US Okami PS2 number at some point though…

I will say that the Japan VG chart number appears to be pulled straight from Media Create… which is fairly accurate. Japan’s $2M TV campaign for the title in just that territory (e.g. better marketing) did not move the bar. We could have spent more, sold more, but due to that increased spending generated less profit (more loss). Look at publicly listed publisher financials. Industry standard is a variable marketing spend of between 9-12% of forecasted gross sales. We spend at similar levels (and sometimes above that) on every title we do, in every territory we operate in, including on Z&W…

Okami has been moderately successful… due in no small part to the quality of the game and the fact that it was cost effectively produced with managed scope.” - Christian Svensson, Corporate Officer/VP of Strategic Planning & Business Development

http://www.nintendoeverything.com/?p=10513

I can't think of a single HD game that Capcom has made that hasn't hit 2 million. Next on the fail pile: Dead Rising:Chop till you Drop.

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RubberJohnny

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Why aren't Capcom bringing there A game to the Wii? Umbrella Chronicles sold well, yes? And it was a Resi spin-off built on cheaply rehashed assets.

I've never heard of anyone argue in favoured of cheap spin offs with cheaply reused assets over fresh IP with unique concepts before. Er...well done, I guess?

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I think we're going to have to wait until Monster Hunter 3 comes out before we see how well the next new, exclusive Capcom game sells on the Wii. Hopefully it'll be massive and we can all celebrate with frosty chocolate milkshakes.

Even if it fails lets still have those frosty chocolate milkshakes :)

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Word is, the PS3 might have outsold the Wii in Japan this week.

Even the 360 isn't going to be too far behind.

EuroGamer will go mad.

We can but hope.

As funny as Sony LOL was/is, it really won't do us any good if one of the strongest competitors leaves the market..

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Yes, but is it surprising?

Zack & Wiki - Fresh IP, unique concept, niche market.

Okami Wii - Fresh IP, niche market (who probably already bought the PS2 version).

Dead Rising - Fresh IP, (reportedly crippled) port of a 360 game that was widely regarded as unsuccessful compared to the Resi series.

Why aren't Capcom bringing there A game to the Wii? Umbrella Chronicles sold well, yes? And it was a Resi spin-off built on cheaply rehashed assets.

They've brought RE4.

A better question would be - "why does Capcom's Fresh IP do better on the 360 than on the Wii?"

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They've brought RE4.

A better question would be - "why does Capcom's Fresh IP do better on the 360 than on the Wii?"

or even better - why does poorly marketed IP fare badly on the Wii compared to 360 games that have a gabillion pounds spent on advertising?

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or even better - why does poorly marketed IP fare badly on the Wii compared to 360 games that have a gabillion pounds spent on advertising?

They said they spent $2 million advertising in Japan alone in that block of text - it's not in Yen.

EDIT: For comparison, that's the advertising budget of something like Lost Planet or Dead Rising in the US. They clearly thought they had a big success on their hands.

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Is anyone actually surprised that Zack and Wiki and Okami didn't sell well?

Capcom? You don't but that kind of marketing money towards a flop. This is the kind of high profile, high budget unique IP you lot are always telling third parties to make for the Wii when they moan that their games flop. Is this sort of indifferent reply to be expected?

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Is anyone actually surprised that Zack and Wiki and Okami didn't sell well?

seriously?

Now - if I HotD Overkill doesn't sell well I will cry tears of blood.

Scottcr do you really think it will sell well though? Honestly? From my brief research the top ten rated wii (non multi format) games by score on metacritic are:

Super Mario Galaxy

Zelda Twilight Princess

World of Goo

Super Smash Bros Brawl

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption

Zak and Wiki

Bomberman Blast

Tetris Party

Super Paper Mario

Maboshi's arcade

Of the non-Nintendo games there, are there any big sellers? And does making a highly thought of non-Nintendo game and putting it on the wii actually generate the deserved level of sales? By the way, no axe to grind - my favorite game in the last 2 years was easily RE4 wii.

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except Z&W was a port of a PS2 game that didn't sell well - Okami is a hard sell. You play a wolf and it's very Japanese. Most of the folks who wanted it would have been 'gamers' and would have owned it on the Wii... the people who bought it either didn't have a PS2 before (slim chance) or rebought it to try it on the Wii...

Zack and Wiki looked like a cartoon but played like the hardest of hardcore games. It didn't know who it was trying to appeal to. I love the style of it, graphically it's superb - but it's just too damn hard and drives me nuts. Games like that sell on word of mouth and word of mouth wasn't particularly positive.

Also, had a crap name and rubbish front cover.

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Capcom? You don't but that kind of marketing money towards a flop. This is the kind of high profile, high budget unique IP you lot are always telling third parties to make for the Wii when they moan that their games flop. Is this sort of indifferent reply to be expected?

But it's a glorified point and click adventure game. When was the last time one of those sold millions?

I think it's pretty obvious why Lost Planet and Dead Rising sold more than Zack and Wiki and Okami. The Wii Resident Evil games sold fine.

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Oh yeah, while it's all sunshine and rainbows in Wii land you can't help but have a laugh at the gamers, but when something goes a bit wrong, it's suddenly all their fault; them and their damned 'gamer media'.

... who probably already had it on the PS2...

what's your point?

Two games that unsurprisingly didn't sell well didn't sell well.

wow wee.

The biggest travesty of last year were poor De Blob sales... but no one knew it existed. The same will happen with Deadly Creatures.

The gaming masses out there are told what to buy by their tv and word of mouth.

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