The Apprentice - Wed BBC1 9pm

[Comrade]

I think Raef should be a character in an Ace Attorney game. He has that look about him.

[womblingfree]

Raef is definitely gay isn't he? If not then he is the best groomed heterosexual man I have ever seen.

[Hexx]

He's not pinging the old gaydar.

Kevin or Micheal seem like raging fairies to me

(Although "Away from work, Michael enjoys partying, meeting women, boxing and football. ")

[Alask]

If not then he is the best groomed heterosexual man I have ever seen.

It's called having class, a common ruffian like you has probably never met a man of breading, hence your obvious confusion.

I think Raef's my favourite. He's awesome in that, "I could be Phileas Fogg, that's how awesome I am" kind of way.

[Hexx]

It's called having class, a common ruffian like you has probably never met a man of breading, hence your obvious confusion.

I think Raef's my favourite. He's awesome in that, "I could be Phileas Fogg, that's how awesome I am" kind of way.

I think Raef's card got marked in that BR. SirA really seemed pissed about the selling Ice Cream to Ice Cream Parlors/satellite boxes to Amstrad.

[Hawkeye]

"I'm in shock how Sir Alan could miss how special I am"

Maybe she should set up a 24 hour hotline to let him know how special she is! It could also up date him on how his dry cleaning is coming along too.

Wrong team won last night, but then watching the show it was obvious what was going to happen. The team of numpties were going to get one big order to save thier arse, and more importantly the useless gobshite Claire. When the show spent so long on footage of the three muppets bragging about how great they had been and how they are the best sales team ever you just knew it was setting them up for a fall.

Lucinda actually came across well last night for the first time ever. If she had the conviction to follow her plan through to re-arrange the teams for day two I would have said she had done the role as well as could have been expected.

Classic TV moment at the end with the silence at the kitchen table though.

[Hexx]

Given how we saw Helena lie last week I'm pretty sure that Lucinda was lying about Helena being a bitch about Jenny...but even if she was...quite a good way to start to sow seeds of doubt.

Luicanda's a player

[Wickedkitten]

Given how we saw Helena lie last week I'm pretty sure that Lucinda was lying about Helena being a bitch about Jenny...but even if she was...quite a good way to start to sow seeds of doubt.

Luicanda's a player

I bet Helena did say it, she looks like the sneaky kind of bitch who wouldn't dare say something to someones face.

[sofasurfer]

I bet Helena did say it, she looks like the sneaky kind of bitch who wouldn't dare say something to someones face.

Got to agree. I don't think Lucinda would be so stupid to just come out with an outright lie. Helene was just being a bitch. Loved how they all said she was doing a great job and in the car on the way back when they thought they had won started trying to take the credit themselves.

The right person went last night. Lindi has been annoying right from the start and I would trust her to run a kid's party.

The only problem i have with this year is that I don't like many of the candidates at all and the ones I do like (Lucinda and Lee especially) don't seem Apprentice winners.

I am hoping that Sara will come more to the fore now that we are nearly half way through the series. She is the only one from past shows that I think may avtually win it.

[marcus]

I so knew that bitch Claire was going to pull off a clinching deal. Not an amazing episode like the others, I too liked the silence bit (ice queen) at the end though, said it all really.

[CurryKitten]

I have to say I felt for Lucinda's team last night. Although there were fuckups like the exclusivity deals and the appointments at ice cream parlors., they did at least arrange appointments with the right people and worked fairly well together. It was a little unfair that the other team stole that victory via a single large order at the end.

I also felt Lucinda was in a catch-22 over the team mixing up idea. She wanted to mix up the teams, but also didn't want to risk having in-team arguing after the "Non-verbal cues" she was given.

I'm also confused as why people don't stand up point back at Sir Alan and just say "You're a cunt" when they get fired, what's all this "thank-you for the opportunity" nonsense ?

[Hexx]

Am I the only one who thought it was odd that pricing (both of ingredients and "per liter" when sold) didn't come up at all?

[BossSaru]

I'm guessing the sale prices were out of their control, and ingredients may have been covered, due to the low proportional value.

It was a shame that Lucinda's team lost though. They put in the hard work, did a good job and admittedly made a few fuck ups (bitching, some poor choice of appointments, exclusivity deals), but certainly showed a more organised, co-operative and dignified approach. Claire's cider sampling, lack of market research (should have lost points from their bottom line figure for that, given that it was a task requirement) and 'door-to-door' panic selling was abysmal.

I didn't get the point of the sampling sessions, except as a nice photo opportunity for the film crews. Surely a few appointments with potential clients would have been a much better use of time for the teams.

[Hexx]

It seemed design to get them down from 3 choices (of theirs) to 2, see how the dealt with "local yokels" AND pimp the "it's all local produce" idea.

[Eats hoops and leaves]

I'm also confused as why people don't stand up point back at Sir Alan and just say "You're a cunt" when they get fired, what's all this "thank-you for the opportunity" nonsense ?

God I would love that so much. As it is though, they're all spineless, simpering suck-ups.

[Great_Sage_Equal_of_Heaven]

God I would love that so much. As it is though, they're all spineless, simpering suck-ups.

I would think that they have it in their contract that they must be nice as pie for the camera, like having to go on the after show to bitch about the others - that's the last thing I would want to have to do but I imagine it's a condition of entry.

Even if someone would go renegade and say "you can stick your job beardy, I was just here for a laugh" I'm sure it wouldn't be shown. Except perhaps if it was a set up and it makes Sugar change his mind and have someone brought back in - this shit almost writes itself I tells you

Anyway, stupid Jen with her wide-apart-fish-eyes should have gone last night, Lindi may have been a bit of a clown but she didn't grate on me as much as the Jen, although getting her cummupance at the end - the silence at the table was deafening

[SeanR]

Anyway, stupid Jen with her wide-apart-fish-eyes...

Someone else noticed, hurrah!

[Great_Sage_Equal_of_Heaven]

Someone else noticed, hurrah!

You could almost get another set of eyes in between those ones they are that far apart. Still, I'm sure having 360 vision is handy to keep an eye out for all the back-stabbing

(*groan*)

[Hexx]

Yey! Zok's here and about to post something!

[ZOK]

I'm also confused as why people don't stand up point back at Sir Alan and just say "You're a cunt" when they get fired, what's all this "thank-you for the opportunity" nonsense ?

They probably want to get jobs during the rest of their lives, or something.

[ZOK]

Yey! Zok's here and about to post something!

I haven't seen it, so you won't be getting the 'benefit' of my sage-like wisdom just yet!

[Hexx]

Well that's just boring. I might actually have to do some work then...

[merman]

To go back over a couple of points raised...

Sir Alan made it clear that the farms ARE going to fulfill the orders. They were both looking to expand into a new market, which is why he was then mad about the exclusivity deals.

One deal was exclusivity for cinemas in London. The other was for a chain of gastro-pubs in London, and the owner asked for 3 months' exclusivity himself.

Claire's team were a shambles with the preparation and not getting the tasting organised. But that big deal saved them at the last minute. And the look on Kevin's face when the cinema deal was whipped out from under their feet - priceless! (And why did they then waste time going back to ask the same question again?)

Well done to Lucinda, I have to re-evaluate her. And Jennifer was a cow - she sighed and looked so bitter when Lucinda suggested rearranging the teams, which is why the idea was dropped (even though Sir Alan pointed out he would have done it himself).

If the sales team had put less effort into congratulating themselves and more effort into appointments they could have got more. Lindi had to go, for the mistakes with the appointments and not controlling the pitches better.

[Monkichi 3.0]

Lindie has always been a pretend businesswoman from the start. All she ever contributed were vacuous "VIP" services and other childish nonsense, it was all so immature, like a child playing at being a business woman. The look on her face throuhout the boardroom scene showed she had no idea what was going on. I'm also sure that if Alan hadn't brought up the subject of the exclusivity deals she would have brought it up herself as a positive, because you know, it's EXCLUSIVE.

Claire's team was an absolute shambles and she comes across, frankly, as a cunt. Same as Alex, Helena and both Jens.

Also, Micheal has to be the WORST saleman I've EVER seen. I mean, he's so transparent it's funny, those guys at the bar utterly owned him. His haggling is also legendary

[toythatkills]

Also, Micheal has to be the WORST saleman I've EVER seen. I mean, he's so transparent it's funny, those guys at the bar utterly owned him. His haggling is also legendary

I think every episode so far has had a scene of him trying to deal with a customer and crumbing entirely at the first sign of dissent

[Hexx]

Episode 1 : Lawyers

Episode 2 : Was he involved in selling?

Episode 3 : "Half a pizza" (Also he made the unilateral decision to the price without knowing cost)

Episode 4 : Selling, but seemed pretty bad at it.

Episode 5 : Bar men.

[Hot&Spicy]

Meh. That episode was a bit disappointing. Not really much action at all.

Not sure why Sir Alan complained about Lucinda's good idea not being put through. As PM, surely it's also your responsibility to not drum home every single idea you have, have a bit of democracy and all that? I thought that was a sign of her being a good PM!

Can't be bothered to do a whole dissection on the episode. Found it a bit boring...

[Comrade]

I would think that they have it in their contract that they must be nice as pie for the camera, like having to go on the after show to bitch about the others - that's the last thing I would want to have to do but I imagine it's a condition of entry.

Even if someone would go renegade and say "you can stick your job beardy, I was just here for a laugh" I'm sure it wouldn't be shown. Except perhaps if it was a set up and it makes Sugar change his mind and have someone brought back in - this shit almost writes itself I tells you

I heavily doubt this is the case. If something like that happened it would be TV gold and there is no way the BBC wouldn't put it in. People are probably just polite to Suralan for the obvious reason that insulting such a big name to his face is a sure-fire way to destroy your own career immediately.

[Great_Sage_Equal_of_Heaven]

I heavily doubt this is the case. If something like that happened it would be TV gold and there is no way the BBC wouldn't put it in. People are probably just polite to Suralan for the obvious reason that insulting such a big name to his face is a sure-fire way to destroy your own career immediately.

I still thnk that Sugar is the kind of person who wouldn't stand for someone giving him a dressing down on his own programme and certainly wouldn't entertain being made to look stupid or being insulted.

Whilst I do agree that someone telling him where to stick it would be unmisable TV - I don't think that Sugar would allow it to be shown.

I'm not sure that they are trying to save their own career by being polite when they get binned, any future employer having watched the show would see what scheming, duplicitous, self-promoting cunts they are and whether they were nice to the bloke who just tore a strip off them and fired them at the end would be beside the point IMO. If they want to be taken seriously for a career prospect then attempting to win a job on a game show gets the red marker pen - although it might just be good manners like my mum taught me.

[Monkichi 3.0]

Episode 1 : Lawyers

Episode 2 : Was he involved in selling?

Episode 3 : "Half a pizza" (Also he made the unilateral decision to the price without knowing cost)

Episode 4 : Selling, but seemed pretty bad at it.

Episode 5 : Bar men.

He also had to be dragged away from haggling for cheap sparkling wine at the off license in episode 4. Probably because he was haggling the price UP rather than down.