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The New and Improved

Rllmuk Thief Trilogy Patch & Mod Guide

 

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Thief Gold

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Available from GOG and Steam, both work perfectly on modern PC's but I do recommend installing the GOG version as admin (right-click on the gog installer and select 'run as administrator') and you have to install either version somewhere else than your Program Files folder (or any protected Windows folder) to avoid problems, and to be able to use the mod which makes it widescreen and all nice. Mine is installed on E:\ for example and I haven't had a single problem using Win 7 64-bit. When you install a game on Steam nowadays, you can select to install on somewhere other than C:\

TTLG forum user voodoo47 gives us TFix, all the mod you need for Thief Gold which incorporates NewDark, the new amazing patch for dark engine based games.

What's in TFix:

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-EP: http://www.ttlg.com/...ad.php?t=118999

-improved textures&limbs: http://thief-thecirc...oad.asp?fid=590

-improved textures&surfaces: http://thief-thecirc...oad.asp?fid=597

-T2 water: http://www.ttlg.com/...ad.php?t=131984

-TGsky

-patch 1.19

-fixes to way too many textures, models and objects to count, by way too many modders to list. thanks again, everybody!

If you've already modified Thief Gold previously, I recommend a clean install. As I said, don't install in Program Files. Steam users need to disable the automatic updating: right-click on game title->properties->updates-.Always keep this game up to date [change to] Do not automatically update this game

For the first two Thief games games you need Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 SP1 Redistributable Package (x86) and DirectX End-User Runtimes (June 2010) if you don't already have them.

Download the latest TFix here

Run the TFix_exe as Admin (right-click, run as admin). In the Choose Components Screen select everything except the Dromed Editor (unless you want to make mods and levels yourself) and then point it towards your Thief Gold install folder, for Steam users this is [...]:\Steam\steamapps\common\thief_gold\

Steam users will note that the Steam Overlay now works with the game. There are also modern keybindings provided with the mod, try them out and modify whichever one is closest to what feels right for you.

Update 11 February 2014: there's a new HD texture mod out which is compatible with the most recent versions of TFix and looks really nice. If you have an old TFix install, update to the most recent one and then follow the instructions below:

Before we install the Thief Gold HD Texture Mod, we're going to take advantage of the improved objects and textures from Thief Enhancement Pack 2.0. You can find the latest version here. Download it and drop the single 'ep2.crf' file into your Thief Gold install folder (the one which also contains THIEF.EXE).

Then you can get the Thief Gold HD Texture Mod here, the most recent version is at the one at the top with 'full version' in the title. Download it, run the installer and point it towards your Thief Gold install folder. Let it run and then you're almost done.

At the time of writing the HD Texture mod is at full version 0.9.1 and there's a patch to update it to 0.9.2. Until there's a full version of 0.9.2 or higher available, you'll have to install the full version first and then the patch on top of it. Version 0.9.2 brings with it a 'NewDark graphics settings tool', you'll find a shortcut called 'NewDark Graphics Settings' in your Thief Gold install folder. Run it, and then you'll see a handy menu which allows you to set the AA, turn post-processing on or off etc. There's even a few colour+bloom configurations, I recommend clicking on the previews to the left before deciding. Config 2+bloom is nice imho.

In the Thief Gold install folder you'll also find a 'Water_Mod_Tool' shortcut now. Run it and you'll be able to choose a water type from a total of five different version after playing a demo clip. I chose water type 3 for now btw.

That's it! The game should now work flawlessly and look all nice and beautified. To go back to vanilla TFix, just delete the 'ep2.crf' file, run Tfix again and delete the 'HDMOD' folder.

Thief 2: The Metal Age

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The best stealth game ever made, in gameplay and ambition it's still unsurpassed even after 13 years and it's as playable and atmospheric as it ever was. I can't recommend this game enough. Available from GOG and Steam, same as with Thief Gold I recommend installing the GOG version by right-clicking and selecting 'run as administrator'. Install either version, GOG or Steam, somewhere other than in the Program Files folder on C:\.

What you need for Thief 2 is Tafferpatcher, made by the lovely people of the Thief fan community over at the Looking Glass forums, nowadays it also incorporates the NewDark patch, bringing the game up to v1.19.

Included patches:

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- Patch 1.19 which eliminates all issues with modern hardware, widescreen resolutions, multi-core systems, etc.

- Various mission, gamesys, model and texture fixes.

- t2skies and t2water mod by Jermi

- Enhancement Pack by Nameless Voice

- NTEX texture pack by thief_gotcha

If you've already modified Thief 2: The Metal Age previously, I recommend a clean install. As I said, don't install in Program Files. Steam users need to disable the automatic updating: right-click on game title->properties->updates-.Always keep this game up to date [change to] Do not automatically update this game

For the first two Thief games games you need Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 SP1 Redistributable Package (x86) and DirectX End-User Runtimes (June 2010) if you don't already have them, but unlike TFix for Thief Gold, Tafferpatcher checks whether they are installed correctly when running the patch.

Download Tafferpatcher from the first download link here

Run TafferPatcher_TMA_207_beta.exe as Admin (right-click, run as admin). Point it towards your Thief 2 install folder, for Steam users this is [...]:\Steam\steamapps\common\thief_2, you can ignore the options below that - those are for installing from a disc (disc? Pfft bwhaha). Select Full Installation on the Select Component screen and the uncheck Dromed Mission Editor (unless you;re going to mod yourself). Next you can select whether you need shortcuts, but you can ignore the registry options if you're following this guide and therefore aren't moving folders about.

That's it! The game should now work flawlessly and look all nice and beautified, just select your desired resolution in the in-game options. Like with TFix the Steam Overlay now works, but unlike TFix it doesn't come with handy bindings.

Thief: Deadly Shadows

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The third game, Thief: Deadly Shadows is available on Steam and GOG. It was not made by Looking Glass and it shows. It's still enjoyable for what it is and it has a few outstanding moments (The Cradle) but it's nowhere close to the first two games and it hasn't aged as well. If you follow this guide I can help you out with that last one however.

You can tell Deadly Shadows isn't as popular by the available mods not being quite as user-friendly or all-encompassing. There is however the Sneaky Upgrade which we will combine with John P.'s Collective Texture Pack.

About Sneaky Upgrade:

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A consolidation of previous community fixes for Thief 3, with added support for the FMSel fan mission frontend from the NewDark patch, and some GUI tweaks:

  • All resolutions reported by the system, plus an optional custom display mode, are available from the options screen. The aspect ratio is shown as well
  • No issues with 16:9 modes
  • The horizontal view is extended with wider aspect ratio (i.e. 'hor+'), instead of cropping off the top and bottom
  • The field-of-view can be specified by the user. The setting will work with both the original game and fanmissions, with existing savegames and with missions which use scripted FOV changes
  • The HUD and menus are shown correctly, regardless of resolution and aspect ratio. In 3-monitor modes, the HUD can be constricted to the center monitor
  • Also includes a fix for multicore machines
  • Easy-to-use installer
Additionally some tweaks have been incorporated:
  • Options to mirror and/or scale down the main HUD
  • Minor HUD tweaks: Options to remove "Nothing" texts, remove junk item flashing and hide the lockpicking HUD
  • Option to remove loading screen tips
  • Option to hide the annoying main menu version text

Again, I recommend a clean install. If you've already got the texture pack, uninstall that first (Start Menu->All Programs->Eidos->Thief - Deadly Shadows->Collective Texture Pack) because if you don't the pack refuses to install again unless you fiddle with registry settings - and nobody wants to do that. Steam users need to disable the automatic updating: right-click on game title->properties->updates-.Always keep this game up to date [change to] Do not automatically update this game

Download the current version of Sneaky Upgrade here

Run Setup_T3SneakyUpgrade_1.1.1.1.exe as Admin (right-click, run as admin). Point it towards your Deadly Shadows install folder, for Steam users this is [...]:\Steam\steamapps\common\Thief Deadly Shadows. In the Select Additional Tasks screen, select the top three options:

  • Extra multicore fix for T3.exe: This will set T3 to run on core 0. There has been one report of this being necessary, and it cannot hurt...
  • Disable Alt-Tab while playing: For some reason the GUI text can grow large or disappear if the Thief 3 window loses focus temporarily. Even with this enabled you can still reach the desktop using Alt-Enter to switch to windowed mode
  • Disable desktop effects while playing to prevent the desktop from showing: The game restarts itself every time a level is loaded. While that is happening a full-screen window is shown to prevent the desktop from appearing in between. Desktop effects can interfere with this

You don't need: fan mission selector, Specify the path for fan mission installation, Set the game root to the chosen path, or Desktop icons. For fan missions you'll want to use The Dark Mod (see below), not this game.

After installing the Sneaky Upgrade, start the game and go to the options screen to select an appropriate resolution, but resolution changes take effect only on the next restart or reload. In the in-game graphical options select AA instead of Bloom, because the game restarts each time you go into a mission and I can't get forcing AA through the Nividia control panel to work because of this.

Unlike the first two games, modding Thief: Deadly Shadows causes the Steam Overlay to not work anymore.

Now it's time for tweaks! Go to your Deadly Shadows install folder (to be exact here: [...]:\Steam\steamapps\common\Thief Deadly Shadows\save\SaveGames\User Options, GOG users - just ignore the first three paths) and open SneakyOptions.ini with Notepad. Change this:

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[Tweaks]

NoLoadingTips=false

NoJunkItemFlash=false

NoDeEquipTexts=false

HideMenuVersionText=false

HideLockpickingHUD=false

HUDMirroring=false

HUDScaleFactor=0.5

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[Tweaks]

NoLoadingTips=true

NoJunkItemFlash=true

NoDeEquipTexts=true

HideMenuVersionText=true

HideLockpickingHUD=true

HUDMirroring=false

HUDScaleFactor=0.6

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The [Tweaks]section:

  • HUDScaleFactor (default: 1.00). Scale down the HUD by this factor, valid range is 0.3-1.0
  • HUDMirroring (default: False). Mirror the HUD (weapons on the left, inventory on the right)
  • NoLoadingTips (default: False). Disable tips during level loading. 'Flavour text' is not affected
  • NoJunkItemFlash (default: False). Stop the flashing of picked-up junk items
  • NoDeEquipTexts (default: False). Remove the "Nothing" text shown when no weapon or item is selected/available
  • HideLockpickingHUD (default: False). Hide the lockpicking HUD...
  • HideMenuVersionText (default: False). Removes the version information text from the main menu

The HUD is fucking huge, so that is essential and all the other tweaks just make the game better and a little more like the old ones. The lockpicking HUD just zooms you in, which breaks immersion - you can lockpick without it and it's much better for it.

Now for John P.'s Collective Texture Pack!

Download it here

Right-click on CollectiveTexturePackv1.0.3.exe and run as admin. Point it towards your Deadly Shadows install folder, for Steam users this is [...]:\Steam\steamapps\common\Thief Deadly Shadows\. In the select options screen you can choose a face for Garrett in 'Garrett faces', large scar is the default look but choose whichever one you want, even the loading screens are adjusted accordingly.

In 'Garrett outfits' you can choose 'equipment & weapons' in combination with one of the other three options (bare arms, clothed arms, thief 1 inspired). For 'N.P.C.s', 'Menu and gameplay specific',and 'environment' - just select everything.

That's it! The game should now work better and look a lot nicer.

Extra: The Dark Mod

Dark Mod uses the Doom 3 engine and makes a Thief game out of it. It's standalone and completely free! You can download and play lots of different missions from within the main menu and some of them are truly mindblowing. It looks great, has all the advanced physics you expect of modern games plus all the gameplay mechanics of Thief 1 and 2 - some of them even improved, like the lockpicking which now requires you to listen whilst poking around inside a lock. Get it now!

The recommended mission that comes with The Dark Mod, 'Tears of St. Lucia', has basically everything you want from a modern Thief game. 'A Score to Settle' is also really good, but just try them all out yourself!

Anyone interested in this: website is here and the download link is here

Handy links

Links to all the recommended Thief sites in one handy list!

Official Thief 4 website

Thief: The Dark Wiki

All things Thief on the TTLG forum

T2X: Shadows of the Metal Age

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Original post:

This rumour I just saw on videogaming247 has gotten me more excited than any GTA or Halo hype ever could.

Apparently Eidos Montreal is working on a "big new game" that "starts with the letter T", and now it seems that "If you check the Facebook profile pic of Stephane D'Astous, the general manager at Eidos Montreal, you'll see that the letter 'T' Thief logo is displayed."

Oh man, I know there are other Thief fans on this forum, and although part 3 was a bit disappointing, a new Thief game is something to really look forward to. I just hope Eidos Montreal doesn't fuck it up.

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...is this for real? What kind of rumour is that!

It's not much, but for me Thief is gaming at its finest. The possibility, however small, of a new Thief game is reason enough to get a bit excited and start hoping that the rumours are true.

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Well, much to my geeky shame I've not played Thief 1 or 2 properly, did the first level on both, but my PC was never up to it.

I absolutely loved Thief 3, even the shitty Xbox conversion (which apparently had twice as many load zones!!), the world was amazing, even if the storyline was a bit shit.. so shit that I can't even remember any of it, pretty much. But it did have some some excellent ideas and very memorable locations ;) and some hatty hats.

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Please god no! After thief 3 I can't take seeing Garret get raped again.

I was waiting for your reaction. ;)

I understand what you're saying, and I'm also afraid that a different dev team won't 'get' Thief, but there's also a chance it will be a worthy follow-up to the brilliant first two games. As disappointing as Thief 3 was, it had some outstanding moments (the cradle) and ideas that had potential but were handled completely wrong (the whole walking around the city thing).

Like I said, Thief is gaming at its finest for me, and I would love a worthy follow-up to the first two games. If it turns out to be crap, I will be just as angry and disappointed as you.

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Well, much to my geeky shame I've not played Thief 1 or 2 properly, did the first level on both, but my PC was never up to it.

I absolutely loved Thief 3, even the shitty Xbox conversion (which apparently had twice as many load zones!!), the world was amazing, even if the storyline was a bit shit.. so shit that I can't even remember any of it, pretty much. But it did have some some excellent ideas and very memorable locations ;)

You would love the first two games, but I never managed to get them working properly in XP. The cut-scenes use some weird codec that doesn't sit well with XP iirc.

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Um, Thief 3 was great. It was flawed, and a compromised vision relative to the first two, but it was fucking great to play and had a "swallow me" atmosphere right from the off. Best medieval videogame world ever. Better than Assassins Creed, if you ask me.

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You would love the first two games, but I never managed to get them working properly in XP. The cut-scenes use some weird codec that doesn't sit well with XP iirc.

Check the forums at Through the Looking Glass, they've got loads of troubleshooting guides.

I got Thief 2 working on XP easily after following those, and I didn't regret it. One of my favourite games ever.

Also, Thief 3 was great. Far from perfect but it had some excellent stuff in it. The Widow's Mansion, the Hammerite Cathedral, and the infamous Cradle especially.

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Um, Thief 3 was great. It was flawed, and a compromised vision relative to the first two, but it was fucking great to play and had a "swallow me" atmosphere right from the off. Best medieval videogame world ever. Better than Assassins Creed, if you ask me.

Ageed 110%

Okay so it wasnt as good as Thief 1 and 2, but 3 was by no means a bad game.. it had plenty of outstanding levels and had me totally hooked till the end.

A Thief 4 simply HAD to happen..it was only a matter of time.

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My only request for Thief 4 (should it ever happen), is to excise a few of the awful American accents. Now don't get me wrong, whilst some of the anachronistic voice work held a certain appeal (in what is a pseudo-medieval setting), when a shopkeeper talks like Mae West, it's a bit too much.

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It's just a rumour for now, like it says in the first post. We don't even know for sure if there's really going to be a Thief 4, let alone what platforms it's going to be released for.

I get that it's just a rumour, the white and coloured balls on the front of my face confirmed that for me- but you show a link in your first post which I could not access. The link may have stated which platform it is rumoured to be on. Hence my question :D

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I get that it's just a rumour, the white and coloured balls on the front of my face confirmed that for me- but you show a link in your first post which I could not access. The link may have stated which platform it is rumoured to be on. Hence my question :D

I didn't mean anything by it, I was just trying to say that the link gives no additional info (all the relevant points are quoted in the first post) and there's no platform rumoured yet. No need to roll your eyes.

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I didn't mean anything by it, I was just trying to say that the link gives no additional info (all the relevant points are quoted in the first post) and there's no platform rumoured yet. No need to roll your eyes.

Sorry Yo, wasn't having a dig - was just trying to be funny in reply. Perhaps I should be paying more attention to work matters but the boss is out for the day and I'm caning the boards.

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But videogames starting with T? Turok, Terminator, Toejam & Earl...

Eh? What are you trying to say? That games starting with T are shit? What about Turrican, Taxi, Terminal Velocity, Test Drive Unlimited, Tetris, The Elder Scrolls series, The Thing, Throne of Baal, Tiger Woods, TOCA series, Tomb Raider series, Tony Hawk series, Top Spin series, Total Annihilation, Trackmania series, Transport Tycoon deluxe...need I go on? Games starting with T are ace.

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THI4F

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After a long silence, some new and rather worrisome bit of news emerged today courtesy of The Sarge. From the Deus Ex 3 (pffft) thread:

Square Enix's Tokyo developers are to work on the cinematics for Eidos Montreal's upcoming Deus Ex sequel, the studio's general manager Stephane D'Astous told us.

"Deus Ex 3 is going to be the first project which will be a concrete product of joint effort between Square Enix and Eidos," said D'Astous. "The cinematics—by which I mean any CGI pre-rendered cinematics — are going to be done in Tokyo by Square Enix, and that's going to be amazing."

Explaining the background for this announcement, D'Astous said, "It was in April when Square Enix acquired us, and by June, July I was trying to think of a project we could do together. One morning I woke up and I said, we'll, they're known for their cinematics, so why not get them involved with those?"

Though the level of cinematic sequences in Deus Ex 3 is currently un-announced, D'Astous claimed Square Enix would at least be working on the trailers and the introduction cinematic.

"We already have some pre-visualisations," continued D'Astous. "The people in Tokyo are just so glad to work on it; this is the first project for them that's a non-Final Fantasy title— they even want to work on Thief 4 too, so everyone is really excited."

On the one hand I'm all excited and overjoyed to hear again from Thief 4, even if the announcement is for some other game. On the other hand the thought of a Thief game with wank anime cutscenes fills me with dread and nausea. Still, the game is alive! Alive!

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Well, so far we know two things about Thief 4:

1) THI4F (allegedly pronounced thee-aff)

2)Possible Squeenix cutscenes

Not the most encouraging info to work with tbh. They've basically announced nothing except it's existence, but if they've been working on it ever since the rumours, surely there's a proper reveal coming in 2010, at E3 for example? Man, if both Thief 4 and Hitman 5 were announced for a 2010 release my brain will probably not be able to cope with the amount of happiness that would overwhelm me and just melt or something. Assuming that Thief 4 is any good of course, but I always tend to think in terms of the first two games and automatically assume that any sequel would build on those brilliant foundations.

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