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On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 00:46, Hellcock said:

Anyone seen the UFC singapore card? Fucking joke. They're not winning Asian fans with that line up. One crushes them every time out here

Dos Anjos vs Tarec Saffedine has been added, dunno how you feel about that, its good but not stellar. Dos Anjos lives/trains in Singapore doesnt he?

 

Cerrone vs Lawler set for UFC 213 in julyv:omg:

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On 4/3/2017 at 08:10, Yobo Ahoy said:

I thought Bellator was decent, unfortunately that was the way the main event was gonna go, Mo was both too quick for the barge-like Rampage to hit but also too small to do any real damage (as an aside, he looked tiny next to Bader!).

 

I'm curious to see how Rampage's return to UFC plays out, I can't see them giving him anyone top 5 but they probably don't want to make it too easy for him. Maybe Struve or someone like that. 

 

 

Rampage vs Derrick Lewis would be insane! 

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40 minutes ago, Yobo Ahoy said:

I didn't realise it was Mousasi's final fight on his UFC contract this weekend. He is exactly the sort of guy they are sleeping on at the mo and it's criminal, hopefully Bellator go all out to get him. Love that guy! 

Schaub was talking about this on his show, Mousassi is seriously upset regarding pay and how shit it is but it just how the ufc are.

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These guys all keep signing crap deals then moan about them after the event, Mousasi may well be an excellent top 10 fighter but he's very replaceable in a roster, nobody would really bat an eyelid if he left as he's pretty anonymous to the UFC wider fan base.

 

I think the UFC realise their strength has been in numbers and depth of fighters (not in all divisions but overall) and that is why they were so anti a fighters union, as 1 decent top 10 guy leaving over pay isn't an issue if they others stay 'in line' - the UFC's problems come when the fighters start negotiating en masse and can't all be picked off as individuals, like they are at present.

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I suspect that Conor McGregor's method of seemingly renegotiating his terms before every fight is the cause for the 'moaning'. It's been shown to work by the sport's most successful fighter.

 

If they've opened the floodgates to better fighter leverage by letting him get away with it, it's a good thing. 

 

On a more specific note, they're running the risk of offending most of their top MWs. Jacare's unhappy, Rockhold's unhappy, Romero's unhappy, and they've all appeared in other prominent orgs. So they're not necessarily UFC for life. Bellator definitely have an opportunity to steal the 185 division, but they'll need deep pockets.

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Thats true i almost always go and do a few sets of pull-ups after watching countdown cos im so psyched.

I get why fighters are aggrieved about the disparity of pay it just sad to see money becoming such an issue now.

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I actually like Bellator presentation. It's flashy but old-school (the SD showings on Spike weirdly add to the atmosphere a bit, like old WWF). I generally don't watch much build-up from either organisation but I think Bellator are improving in that regard.

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2 hours ago, McFly said:

I get why fighters are aggrieved about the disparity of pay it just sad to see money becoming such an issue now.

 

Guess if you see the company sold for $4.2b it's automatic to wonder when your piece of the pie is going to get served. Clearly it's not as straightforward as that, and some fighters need to understand about the value of being a draw vs not being a draw.

 

I wonder how many that are currently dissatisfied are still on the best contract they're ever likely to have? I mean, MMA is clearly lucrative for those at the top but I imagine the disparity for the mid-to-low card rosters at UFC and those on smaller promotions is still substantial. Saying that at the very least the UFC could allow fighters to once again subsidise their fight pay with in-Octagon sponsorship, especially when the Octagon itself usually has a half-dozen sponsors per event in addition to the Reebok deal.

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24 minutes ago, glb said:

I wonder how many that are currently dissatisfied are still on the best contract they're ever likely to have? I mean, MMA is clearly lucrative for those at the top but I imagine the disparity for the mid-to-low card rosters at UFC and those on smaller promotions is still substantial. Saying that at the very least the UFC could allow fighters to once again subsidise their fight pay with in-Octagon sponsorship, especially when the Octagon itself usually has a half-dozen sponsors per event in addition to the Reebok deal.

 

Yeah, it's a hard one to gauge. There's often a lot of nostalgia for the Fertittas in here, but there were paying some horrendously low show money to new names. The new era has definitely increased the purses on average. That being said, the Reebok deal has obviously caused untold damage. 

 

They give, and they taketh away.

 

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Its the no sponsorship thats the killer for sure.  If fighter is getting 10k + 10k for win that could be bumped up to 50k or 60k with sponsors probably instead of an extra 1k from Reebok. Something thatd be good is a decent ( 20k or so) bonus for a ko/sub for every fight not just event bonuses

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10 hours ago, Yobo Ahoy said:

I didn't realise it was Mousasi's final fight on his UFC contract this weekend. He is exactly the sort of guy they are sleeping on at the mo and it's criminal, hopefully Bellator go all out to get him. Love that guy! 

 

Beats Weidman and goes to Bellator. That would be glorious! 

 

2 hours ago, McFly said:

Its the no sponsorship thats the killer for sure.  If fighter is getting 10k + 10k for win that could be bumped up to 50k or 60k with sponsors probably instead of an extra 1k from Reebok. Something thatd be good is a decent ( 20k or so) bonus for a ko/sub for every fight not just event bonuses

 

Bloody Elbow did an off the record article ages ago. I think everyone hates the reebok deal. Even the worst fighters were getting decent money through sponsorships - schaub was getting 150k and he was a c level heavyweight. 

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I always thought you could write a thesis on the UFC and how they built a fantastic company and sport. Now you could do that and add in how they fucked it up. But they did sell for $4b so its hard to say they really fucked it up that bad from the owners p.o.v.

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4 hours ago, Hellcock said:

Humble rumble seems like such a nice bloke. I really hope he knocks DCs head off

 

Watching the first ep of Embedded, Rumble's dog, also called Rumble, is an absolute winner. Makes him a good man in my books.

 

 

 

 

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Just "in competition", so most likely before, seeing as Nate Diaz got off with a slap on the wrist for vaping it after a fight.

 

Watched the first 4 embeddeds, I cannot stand Cormier in promo mode, he's just a prick. Hope AJ merks him.  Ditto Weidman, he's such a jock asshole, I can't root for him either, especially not against the moose. Again, hope we get a sweet KO in that one.

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