Far Cry 2

[McCoy]

RE5 was bad because it had racist depictions of characters - black people literally started chucking spears, Far Cry 2 did not have racist depictions of characters. Solved, also you are not too smart.

Fair enough. I must admit I never followed the controversy in detail at the time.

[Vaya.]

just started this. It seems BRILLIANT so far.

just not sure if I've broken the difficulty curve by installing the DLC from the off...

[RubberJohnny]

Yeah the DLC is kind of powerful, I stuck to the silenced shotty for most of the game. I'd recommend unlocking the Flare Gun as soon as possible.

[Vaya.]

will do. Though I am tempted to remove the DLC and start again first.

[mr_woo]

will do. Though I am tempted to remove the DLC and start again first.

Honestly, keep the DLC. It's great fun and the best thing is the choice at your disposal rather than the difficulty. Keep it and give yourself more choice

[Vulgar Monkey]

The silenced shotty is brill but you really do have to be pretty close to have any effect, as you'd expect. Within 10 metres if you want to kill in one, maybe two hits, with 6 metres to be sure.

The crossbow is nice to have just to have immediate access to a scoped weapon, but becomes redundant one you get launchers or snipers.

The omerta-style sawn off is pure shit, even at point blank.

How are you finding the controls and gunplay, btw? I got pt off by their clinkiness to start with but got used to it eventually. Took some doing though.

[Vaya.]

The silenced shotty is brill but you really do have to be pretty close to have any effect, as you'd expect. Within 10 metres if you want to kill in one, maybe two hits, with 6 metres to be sure.

The crossbow is nice to have just to have immediate access to a scoped weapon, but becomes redundant one you get launchers or snipers.

The omerta-style sawn off is pure shit, even at point blank.

How are you finding the controls and gunplay, btw? I got pt off by their clinkiness to start with but got used to it eventually. Took some doing though.

controls are pretty much standard, right? only thing weird is Q to through a grenade and H(?) to fix yourself up

[mr_woo]

The silenced shotty is brill but you really do have to be pretty close to have any effect, as you'd expect. Within 10 metres if you want to kill in one, maybe two hits, with 6 metres to be sure.

The crossbow is nice to have just to have immediate access to a scoped weapon, but becomes redundant one you get launchers or snipers.

The omerta-style sawn off is pure shit, even at point blank.

How are you finding the controls and gunplay, btw? I got pt off by their clinkiness to start with but got used to it eventually. Took some doing though.

The sawn off shotgun is what I use the most Never had a problem up close and personal using that thing, makes them fly right back. Great stuff.

I also highly recommend the explosive crossbow for all the weapon dealer missions. These are basically just blow up a convoy going round in circles. You can hide up a hill and just take it out with ease and be on your merry way. Makes unlocking things much much easier.

[Vulgar Monkey]

Sorry, didn't realise you were on pc. Probably less noticeable than console, but the aim scaling is a bit odd. Very heavy until the get to the limit of the sticks range of motion, then it suddenly ramps up the turn speed. However, after ages on bad company, I struggle with it much less.

[Untogether]

Yeah, this thread will probably take a bump or two for a little bit as FC2 was just in a Steam sale on PC for some silly amount. I completed this on 360 but it's one of the few games I double-dipped on PC because it's such a great game that a second full playthrough is more than warranted. Also, the different control scheme and included-from-the-off DLC is just enough to make it feel a new experience (plus, having the graphics turned up to 11 on PC certainly doesn't hurt).

Ah, FC2, how we love thee.

[chris on the moon]

I've recently got around to trying to start this, after I got it around christmas or sometime.

I've played about three hours, and I don't get it. I don't get this game at all. I can't see any appeal anywhere. Which bits are supposed to be fun?

I'm just spending a lot of time crouching away from enemies, then when they see me, shooting them with a rattley assault rifle. then driving to the other side of the map on some gta bollocks. idgi. Is this game for people who like stuff like call of duty? I tend not to like real world type shooters, and hate tom clancy and overly stealthy stuff.

[Spacehost]

You should be playing it stealthily as a rule; you're classic First Blood Rambo, not Maniac Killing Machine Rambo.

[mr_woo]

It really isn't a game for everyone, it's very unique in how it approaches things but I can only really speak for myself in why I love it so much so I'll try to explain. For me it's mostly about the game world, it's as much a character in the game as anything else. The atmosphere, the sound of everything in the world, the changing weather, the way it naturally shifts from one environment to another (a good example is going from a jungle area to a desert area in a way which doesn't feel forced). It's a game mostly about the journeys you have with some firefights and missions in between. The game is VERY samey in what you have to do, it's mostly kill someone or destroy a truck so you aren't playing it for mission variety. It's the approach it takes to this. It's incredibly laid back. Apart from when you are in a firefight you are never under pressure, I honestly find it very relaxing to play. If you get into it, you REALLY get into it. It's a very immersive world if you enjoy it. I would honestly prefer it over something like Crysis in terms of an actual game world.

Apart from the actual world it's about the choice you have in approaching situations. Do you

1. Get as close as you can with a silenced pistol before finishing everyone off with a silenced machine gun ?

2. Start throwing grenades and go in with a heavy machine gun ?

3. Stand atop of a hill nearby and use a sniper rifle to kill everyone ?

4. Use your flare to shoot at the grass nearby which somehow manages to engulfs everyone with flames ?

5. Stand atop of a hill with a big fucking rocket launcher killing everyone with that ?

6. Drive in with your vehicle and quickly switch to your mounted 50 cal shooting every motherfucker that moves ?

7. Go in guns blazing with your shotgun and run around like a madman ?

Every single one of these is a viable option to a situation and it just gives you a lot of freedom to fuck around. I love experimenting, I'm the sort of person who has to try every weapon and lots of combinations. I'm like a kid in a sweet shop everytime I go into the weapons room and can pick and choose. I can actually stand there and talk to myself for 5 mins on what I want to take to a mission.

Plus on the missions themselves you may have a plan and things go absolutely pear shaped making you think on the fly.

Haha you fuckers I've killed you!

Oh wait there's one left, come here you

Shit, I'm out of ammo!

You get shot and are on one bar of life left so you hide and pull the bullet from your leg. The guys still shooting at you and you're like 'fuck I need to heal'

You heal and you run looking for the closest gun you can find. You pick one up and you shoot, your gun jams and you think you're screwed. Then right in front of you the guy you were shooting at keels over dead. You thank your lucky stars you escaped with that one. This all happens under various conditions too, it could be pitch black in the middle of the night, it could be during a beautiful sunset or sunrise, it could be during a thunderstorm or when its pissing with rain or even in the moonlight.

It's very much about the emergent moment to moment gameplay you can have and all the little stories it creates unique to you. Even now, 2 years after Far Cry 2 first came out, not a single other FPS has given me the experiences that game gives me and still continues to give me even now.

I apologise for the rambling, just typing what comes into my head. It's really hard to try and explain what make it so appealing. It's also by no means a perfect game, I can list various problems it has but everything good about that overcomes it. People easily call it 'boring' or a 'load of shite' and to be honest I can see how it comes across like that. There's nothing really like it. If you need a completely directed experience you won't enjoy it at all. I still have friends on my friends list who tease me about playing it when I play some Halo with them after playing some FC2. But you give me a flawed masterpiece like this any fucking day over generic dudebro shooter 1.1 (and I like them games too!). It remains up there as one of my favourite FPS of all time and I don't regret that for one second.

[Spacehost]

I went back and reread the posts I made during my first play through. It's amazing how many emergent stories develop. It's thoroughly awesome.

[Vimster]

I bought this in 2009 and whilst I didn't play it all the way through I did enjoy the 10 or so hours I spent in the world.

Bought it on Steam for £2.50 recently and was expecting to just get back into it, but for some reason it's not clicking. My first encounter with baddies was a disaster despite trying different tactics (as excellently described by mr woo).

I'm sure once I get over the inital hurdle and settle into it it'll click just like last time. It just surprised me how unprepared I was despite having played and enjoyed the game before.

I'm looking forward to being presented with a situation and finding the best way to sort it. That's the real beauty of the game. Just a shame they won't let anyone mod this, I can imagine it would attract some committed modders (plus I want them to do a mod that reduces the patrols so they're not a pain in the neck).

[chris on the moon]

I think it may be growing on me a bit. My man's life seems to have improved now that he has a sniper rifle.

[SeanR]

rig a truck with IEDs and drive it into a compound.

remember to jump out before detonating.

[Teeohbee]

So I picked this up for £8 on Xbox from HMV. Did I do a good thing?

Any tips for a fresh start?

[AK Bell]

So I picked this up for £8 on Xbox from HMV. Did I do a good thing?

Any tips for a fresh start?

Don't play it all at once. Pace it.

Be original. Try dumb things. Make silly rules to make it harder on yourself.

[Mr Do 71]

Use your map, you don't have to go through every checkpoint, dodge around them and be sneaky.

[SeanR]

Don't play it all at once. Pace it.

Be original. Try dumb things. Make silly rules to make it harder on yourself.

if you die you have to start over.

[NecroMorrius]

if you die you have to start over.

Check this out

[Teeohbee]

Cool, sounds good, is a stealthy play through viable?

[squirtle]

It's been said before, but:

TURN OFF THE MUSIC!

[SeanR]

Check this out

downloading now

[Teeohbee]

It's been said before, but:

TURN OFF THE MUSIC!

Why?

Is it awful?

[SeanR]

Why?

Is it awful?

depends. do you have a soundtrack playing when you go out IRL?

that's why, because it breaks the immersion.

also, has anyone got that permadeath thing in a smaller format? perhaps a single column, without embedded images so I can read it on my phone on the train?

[squirtle]

Why?

Is it awful?

It's so much more immersive with just the sound effects. On top of that, the music is largely dynamic which means IT WILL kick in AT ODD times whilst YOU'RE wandering around.

Trust us on this one. If you look through the thread you'll see loads of people saying the same thing.

[Teeohbee]

It's so much more immersive with just the sound effects. On top of that, the music is largely dynamic which means IT WILL kick in AT ODD times whilst YOU'RE wandering around.

Trust us on this one. If you look through the thread you'll see loads of people saying the same thing.

Ah ok, cool, I'm all for immersion!

Cheers!

[flight]

Cool, sounds good, is a stealthy play through viable?

Yep, I rolled with the silenced mp5 and dart rifle for most of the game. I'd suggest doing the weapon dealer missions as soon as possible to unlock all the gear.