Xbox Live unavailable 29/30 Sept

[Super Craig]

Nothing's wrong with the ps3 set up at all, this is just different and the 360's interface.

And you think it's complicated? I must be a genius, cause that looks dead simple.

Welcome- welcome to xbox

My Xbox - your xbox stuff

Inside xbox - news

Games Marketplace - buy games

Video Marketplace - i'm so confused, this is so complicated!!!!

Friends - I DON"T KNOW WHAT"S GOING ON!!!

[/brick tamlin]

Sorry i got carried away, but it really isn't complex.

Maybe complicated is the wrong word. I just think it could be simplified really. Why do we need a Welcome or Inside Xbox section at all? I also hate that the Games and Video Marketplaces aren't right next to each other, although I'll concede that it's an OCD thing.

[Philly]

Ive been loving the inside xbox news on the blades, it's the first thing i go to when i turn my 360 on. And i think the welcome is going to be for all the new adopters that MS are hoping for with this re-invention.

I suppose they COULD have put the 2 marketplaces together, you never know, it could be customisable. probably not.

[Kryptonian]

That flash demo is crap.

[Dimahoo]

ITS THE FUTURE.

[angel]

whats wrong with the ps3 menu? its a mile long left to right and its only getting bigger. its terrible.

[hughes]

Damnit, it's a bank holiday up here tomorrow and I was looking forward to vegging out with some cod4.

[Dimahoo]

I prefer the PS3 menu to the current blade system i must admit.

[layten]

I prefer the PS3 menu to the current blade system i must admit.

For sure, streamlined and as quick as fuck, compared to the achingly slow blade system.

[masterhand]

Sice the last dash update the blades have been really fucking slow. I hope this update corrects that.

[angel]

mines fine, clear your cache

[Philly]

i hope there's a secret defrag option hidden deep in the shit stained bowels of this new dash.

[mackemansj1]

apart from looks the ps3 and 360 dashs will be more or less the same. Left and right up and down on ps3, up and down left and right on 360 i dont get how people are getting confused its more or less the same thing just it has a different style.

[Philly]

The 360 is straddling the divide, with either foot on the Wii and PS3, dipping it's dick in the cooling equidistant waters of Hardcore Casual.

[Meh]

Christ.

[SaintM]

I hope they sort out the menus just having the 'working' twirly thing when the network is slow/not available.

The idiot who thought that was a good idea should not be allowed near this redesign.

[Straps]

I wasn't bothered about this downtime but I've just remembered that you aren't allowed to play your arcade games without Live. Why can I play some but not others though?

[Kryptonian]

You only need Live to play them if you switched consoles but kept the same hard drive do to the DRM restriction (you and any other tag on your 360 can play a downloaded game - or dlc - but if you use your HD on another 360 you have to be connected to Live). I assume you've then since downloaded more games to your 360 and as such you don't have to be online to play those.

[Yoshimax]

Cos it's the ones you downloaded on THAT console rather than another.

This is a longshot but do EA games (hosted on their own servers as they are) still work online or do you still need live to piggyback onto them ?

[SaintM]

You need to be logged into live still AFAIK.

[tyler]

I don't like the look of the new dash at all and the avatars are just creepy. Some of the new features are great though so assuming the guide is improved I won't be writing to Microsoft just yet.

[Kryptonian]

You just fear change. It will all be fine

[tyler]

I actually fear my TV looking like some weird Kindergarten.

'I'm the party pooper.' - Detective John Kimble

[Kryptonian]

I wasn't bothered about this downtime but I've just remembered that you aren't allowed to play your arcade games without Live. Why can I play some but not others though?

When Live is back up, go here:

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/systemus...ion/default.htm

And follow the steps. Then your games will work offline on the 360/HD that you have now.

[kerraig UK]

do we have the new dash from tomorrow, or is this just preparing an update?

[Kryptonian]

Mid November for the new dash.

[Darragh]

do we have the new dash from tomorrow, or is this just preparing an update?

Nope, this is just in preparation. Presumably so that when the time does come for the new dash, it will be a case of basically flicking a switch.

I'm really not keen on the whole avatar thing, but I'm still excited about the new dash. Installing games to the HD is huge for me, as I'm one of the unlucky ones whose new 360 sounds like a jet engine when playing a game with the disc spinning.

[Kryptonian]

I hope they don't flick the Xbox 1 switch.

[Troublegum]

Do you get a choice on whether to have an Avatar or not?

[Kryptonian]

Why?

edit - I dunno but assume you can just pick a generic one then never look at it again if you wanted

[hughes]

Maybe a dumb question but is the installing games to the hd something where all existing games have their data ripped to the hd and it just plays that or will it only be applicable to future/certain games that support it?