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Good timing for this. The issue is hitting the mainstream isn’t the US, finally. 

 

Thought Louis did his usual very well. His ingenue approach always works best with Americans I find. Incredibly sad to see how ravaged these communities have become. 

 

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One thing with his documentaries is they humanise the people - instead of just thinking of them as junkies, you realise they're a human who's fucked up along the line, and it could happen to anyone.  I felt so sorry for that woman at the end going off with her man just because he keeps her in heroin, and the shit he's putting her through.  The dealer in the tent was pretty sad too.

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Any news on what the next two episodes are about?

 

Never mind, found it:

 

 

Trafficking Sex

Louis Theroux,Dark States Episode 2 of 3

Houston, the fourth largest city in the US, is widely considered to be the number one hub for human trafficking in North America. The US Department of Justice estimates that at least one in five of all thecountry's victims are trafficked through the city, and most of these people will be forced to work in the sex industry.

In Dark States - Trafficking Sex, Louis spends time with American women working in the city's illegal sex industry and explores the often complex dynamic between prostitute and pimp. He discovers a subculture that plays by rules that are morally challenging to most people and seeks to understand what stops these women breaking free. Louis also embeds with law enforcement on undercover operations and meets Vice Division officers tasked with persuading the working women to speak out against their pimps.

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14 hours ago, jeebus said:

and it could happen to anyone.

 

That was the most heart-breaking thing. All the people he talked to got hooked on pain killers, and then that was it. Totally dependent. The man's speech at the end was brutal, saying he could try and battle it, but that would mean dealing with the intense pain, and being high all day made him forget that.

 

It was so tough to watch.

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So much sadness in this episode. Just like in Drinking To Oblivion, we get to see people involved in abusive relationships, because they have no where else to go. Considering it's America, its strange that there hasn't been anyone that has filed a lawsuit against politicians (?) or pharmaceutical companies thats lobbying for doctors to prescribe those drugs. And what was that about one of the drugs mentioned, 100 times stronger than heroin? There has to be someone that can be held accountable? (Edit: theres mention of a lawsuit in the making, in the end of the episode) I'm seriously considering donating to a help group, but I'm not sure it would even make a difference considering how big the problem is. I hope Theroux goes back to making documentaries about UFO hunters again.

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4 hours ago, jeebus said:

Louis spends time with American women working in the city's illegal sex industry and explores the often complex dynamic between prostitute and pimp. 

 

I'm not sure if I even want to see that. I probably will, and then regret it.

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Well that episode was an eye opener, and scared me quite a bit. I was curious when they mentioned Subutex with regards the pregnant woman. I googled it and discovered it is actually the pain killer I have been on for the past 15 years or so!

 

 Thankfully I seem to handle it rather well as I can often take less than I'm allowed and have never felt the need to increase my dosage. But still, to find out it is used as substitute for heroin is a bit of a shock.

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I'm finding his newer shows very voyeuristic, almost like some kind of high end misery porn which he gets away with because of his history of being popular.

 

I know he's not responsible for the situations, and he'll argue as a documentary maker he's just documenting, but I'm uneasy that he is essentially being very well paid and profiting from other people's misery, whilst offering nothing back in return.

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I've thought a bit on why I'm so uncomfortable and basically I think its Louis himself. 

 

If you stick Ross Kemp in the middle of the biggest shit holes on earth he goes all glassy eyed, clenches his jaw and does the humanly decent thing in getting angry and appearing concerned, expressing such opinions directly to camera after most encounters.

 

Louis has that very awkward persona which comes across as taking the piss and not caring, even if he cares deeply and isn't ripping it out of them.

 

He's just not really suited to making documentaries about such dark subjects, as sticks out far too much himself in the stories he's trying to tell.

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9 minutes ago, Gotters said:

 

Louis has that very awkward persona which comes across as taking the piss and not caring, even if he cares deeply and isn't ripping it out of them.

 

 

 

I think that's just his detached 'born to rule persona, void of outward compassion, drilled into him by the English public school/Oxbridge system' face. But sometimes he does come across as a visitor to the sub culture, working class zoo that so fascinates people of his privileged background.

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I think I read it on Reddit,  this guy who met Theroux at the London metro. He talked to him for bit and said that he was the nicest, most down to earth person ever. I even think he said that they ended up discussing music after hello-Im-a-big-fan-nice-to-meet-you was out of the way. His awkward persona has more to do with him coming off as very beta, rather than upper class. 

 

 

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Even though I'm a bit tired of louis covering similar issues in recent years I still like his style. It's really not just him going around to talking to victims, his skill (and his teams) is finding the right people to show refreshing interesting angles in the story that you might not have otherwise considered.

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8 minutes ago, marsh said:

That was very good. I don't get the negativity towards his interview style.

 

Perhaps his awkward ways are a bit confusing, so people perhaps misread him in one way or another? What I like about Louis is his gentle nature, and just the way he talks. I also like how he eases into questions at times.

 

Typical example: 

 

Louis: ...but Jamie..you dont think that....perhaps...some people might think that...

Jamie: What Louis?

Louis: I mean some people might think...

Jamie: What?

Louis: that its a bit too much...perhaps?

*camera focuses on a smiling Jamie in an otherwise slightly tense situation*

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He’s one of the best people-focused documentary makers around because of his unintrusive/non-judgemental style. He leaves it to viewers to form opinions and allows the people in his documentary to breathe and tell their story. Sometimes they’re aresholes, sometimes they’re victims and frequently a mixture but he always brings out the human side. I’ve always felt that he’s able to get even the most difficult person who’s putting on a front to crack a window into their soul. 

 

He’s also clearly matured. Weird Weekends often trod a very fine line between taking the piss and a genuine interest. His later, more serious topics I feel have always treated the subject with respect. 

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I hope Louis didn't give that pro the $250 she claimed to have lost and saying her pimp will punish her for doing so.

 

It was as obvious as the day is long that it was a fictional sob story she came up with to get money out of him..

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I don't enjoy the recent programmes as much as the older ones, they always seem to be along the lines of drugs/ prisons/ prostitutes in America these days. In the last series there was that episode about alcoholics in the UK, and I felt much more sympathetic towards those people. I suppose the ghettos of America just don't stir anything in me.

 

When I think about the most memorable Louis shows the ones that come to mind are the female bodybuilding (possibly my favourite episode), porn, and brothel episodes. Something a bit unusual for a documentary. I can see America's most dangerous prisons on a multitude of channels, but nothing like those I mentioned.

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8 hours ago, marsh said:

That was brutal, Louis at his best. It points perfectly at why America has a gun problem, when the raper pulled out the AR15 I was just stunned. There is no value on human life, and an endless supply of devices to take it.

 

they let rapists have guns?

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Yeah that was brutal, America seems really fucked up. The mother he spent a lot of time with seemed reasonable and intelligent enough yet she had a fucking arsenal in her home. I find it so hard to understand the mindset of guns protect us, such a massive difference in culture to ours.

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