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He is back with a one off 90 minute special which airs 5th April on BBC2

 

 

 

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This 90-minute special sees Louis Theroux travel to America to investigate the story of a man who has become one of the most controversial and captivating icons of recent times: the gun-toting, self-described 'gay hillbilly' and 'Tiger King' Joe Exotic.

A decade on from when he first met Joe for the documentary America’s Most Dangerous Pets, Louis returns to Oklahoma, responding to a direct call from Joe to tell the ‘real story’ and to explore the saga of an animal hoarder turned convicted felon. Joe now resides in a federal prison, having been found guilty of a murder-for-hire plot and multiple animal cruelty charges. But rather than living as a pariah, Joe is now a media phenomenon, the object of international obsession for pundits, celebrities and viewers, with a well-funded campaign team attempting to win him a presidential pardon.

Looking back at his original documentary, Louis reflects on hours of unseen footage and sets out to understand who the real Joe Exotic is and how he used his considerable charm and wiles to assemble a vast menagerie of animals and humans, all roped into a grand project of vanity and deception. Meeting old friends and family members of Joe’s, Louis picks apart the true crime story of how Joe came to be convicted. He also tells the story of Joe’s captivating charisma and the way in which it became a key ingredient in a viral television sensation, with life-changing consequences for all those involved - most of all Carole Baskin, originally the object of Joe’s vitriol, who found herself the target of his murder-for-hire plot and a mass trolling campaign.

He digs deep into Joe’s family, unearthing the origin story of Joe’s pathology and laying bare an only-in-America saga that is part crime story, part media story, part animal rights story but ultimately a 21st-century fable of a cowboy-cum-cult leader whose very fragility became a source of power - a power which, in some respects, persists to this day.

 

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1 hour ago, Popo said:


You should watch Tiger King on its own merit!

 

Really, I'm super into documentaries and whilst TK seemed highly popular it seemed to be snubbed within my circles (i.e those into Making a Murder, Jinx, Staircase etc) Hmm, if it's not 10 episodes long I might consider it.

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So question, I know nothing about TK. Is Theroux going back there a really big deal? it feels like such a popular story that it's probably something that has been milked dry? or did the people involved completely shut down after the documentry and Theroux is one of the first to get in after?

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17 minutes ago, Capwn said:

So question, I know nothing about TK. Is Theroux going back there a really big deal? it feels like such a popular story that it's probably something that has been milked dry? or did the people involved completely shut down after the documentry and Theroux is one of the first to get in after?

 

Tiger King is an interview-to-camera documentary edited like a thriller. You get very little in terms of understanding what any of the people involved in the situation are actually like on a personal level, or what their motivations might be.

 

Theroux's approach to documentary making is almost the complete opposite, so I'm sure it'll be interesting to see him talking to some of these people.

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Tiger King starts as one thing and becomes something slightly different, but maintains its format - mostly based around interviews to camera/ talking head segments and supporting footage. Initially it's pretty much a voyeuristic look at a weird... subculture, and then a story develops from it.

 

It's a good watch, worth the time, even if feeling a little longer than it needed to be.

 

There's probably a story to be told behind the documentary, and Theroux's style is more fitting for that than the Netflix approach I think. How much new there really is, who knows.

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Is anyone watching this? :lol:  I just switched over and Louis Theroux was meeting a guy wearing a t shirt with three Louis Theroux faces on it, and Louis brings up that he thinks the guy did a nazi salute twice, the guy disagrees, and Louis insists and shows the footage and it goes downhill from there.

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That was a grim glimpse of some irredeemably awful people.

 

My take home is that every single one of those white supremecist streamers he interviewed was a massive fucking coward but I guess that was to be expected. They stream their hate, misogyny, and white power shite to an audience of incels but, when challenged, not one of them was prepared  to own their bullshit- whether it was straight denial, semantics, or the ever topical 'it's irony' or 'it was just a joke'.

 

 

 

 

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The 'baked alaska' guy apparently started online relatively liberal, became a big Trump guy, turned his back on the alt-right stuff (short clip of him reacting to the New Zealand shooting) and then seeing there was no money in it went back to the right wing grift. I love how Theroux just allows all these fucking idiots to talk themselves into a corner and stays stony-faced as they try to come out swinging.

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More than ever, these young Americans just saw an old man from the UK come over and try to intimidate them with their own words, and they where unrelenting and having none of it.

 

Louis seemed frustrated in this one, and I don't blame him, but you can't reason with these people. He gives them enough rope, but it seems to add more fuel to the fire.

 

Good TV, but I wish he'd do more home based stories these days, but I guess it's hard to resist the draw of a county seemingly full of fucking nutters

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30 minutes ago, wullie said:

The 'baked alaska' guy apparently started online relatively liberal, became a big Trump guy, turned his back on the alt-right stuff (short clip of him reacting to the New Zealand shooting) and then seeing there was no money in it went back to the right wing grift. I love how Theroux just allows all these fucking idiots to talk themselves into a corner and stays stony-faced as they try to come out swinging.

 

He was a big pro-Obama guy originally. Vic Berger made an art form out of mocking him.

 

 

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Normally whatever Louis is filming there is at least some light in the darkest of situations. This was just a series of utter cunts. 

Do we know what the next episodes are about? I just hope we get to see Louis meet someone he actually likes. 

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7 minutes ago, Stoppy2000 said:

Normally whatever Louis is filming there is at least some light in the darkest of situations. This was just a series of utter cunts. 

Do we know what the next episodes are about? I just hope we get to see Louis meet someone he actually likes. 

 

Episode two is hip hop and the third is the porn industry I believe. 

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Well that was fucking grim.

 

I've become increasingly concerned about the poisonous nature of a unregulated media source that also has the ability to support its own market, and therefore becoming a self perpetuating community that will grow.

 

I think it's safe to say the one place you might not bemoan a mass shooting next year is 'AFPAC' on that showing.

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