ZOK Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Festoon said: Fan since the start. Loved the movie. Terrible take. There is literally no accounting for taste! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste_S Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 hours ago, ZOK said: I’m amazed that any real Dredd fan wants a sequel to this movie, the original was bad enough. If you’ve never read any Dredd, I can understand why you might think it’s good. Oh dear. 0/10 hot takes. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOK Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 I’ve been saying this since the film was in production, so it’s a very odd definition of a hot take. And I know no-one likes admitting it, but it’s true. In many ways, the original Dredd film is the better flick. It may be a hot mess from start to finish, but at least MC1 looks like MC1, and Dredd has both a visible chin and a helmet that isn’t clearly made for a man with a more capacious bean. The less said about the plot, such as it is, the better…but of course that applies to both movies. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOK Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 On 19/11/2010 at 19:13, Harsin said: He looks like a bobblehead. I'll probably be negged back to the stone age for saying this, but I think I prefer the Stallone Dredd uniform. That film had a hell of a lot of problems but production design wasn't one of them. Harsin gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Festoon Posted August 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 hours ago, ZOK said: I’ve been saying this since the film was in production, so it’s a very odd definition of a hot take. And I know no-one likes admitting it, but it’s true. In many ways, the original Dredd film is the better flick. It may be a hot mess from start to finish, but at least MC1 looks like MC1, and Dredd has both a visible chin and a helmet that isn’t clearly made for a man with a more capacious bean. The less said about the plot, such as it is, the better…but of course that applies to both movies. Utter nonsense. Particularly egrigious is the "no one likes admitting it" sneering. I don't 'admit' it because I don't agree. It's a excellent film. A tight thriller. I don't give a fuck about production design if a film is utterly terrible, which Judge Dredd is. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOK Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 You seem to forget I am the ultimate arbiter in these matters, @Festoon! My opinion is given, from the kitchen, and I ain't kidding, although nothing is written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassidy Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 @ZOK 's Uncle is Danny Cannon. That can be the only explanation. Good things about the original = Mean Machine and Hammerstein, Hershey That's it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOK Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Who is Danny Cannon? Don’t forget, I’m not saying Judge Dredd is a good film - I am saying Dredd 3D is a shit film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popo Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Nah, it’s good. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOK Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Popo said: Nah, it’s good. Loads of people think it’s good. I’m simply correctly observing they are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Dredd is good. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassidy Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, ZOK said: Who is Danny Cannon? Don’t forget, I’m not saying Judge Dredd is a good film - I am saying Dredd 3D is a shit film. He directed Judge Dredd and Dredd 3D is drokking great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festoon Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Just now, cassidy said: He directed Judge Dredd And producer of all the CSI series. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOK Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Just now, cassidy said: He directed Judge Dredd If only he’d directed Dredd 3D, we might have had a decent script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOK Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, K said: Dredd is good. I think the absolute best you can say about it is it’s coherent, as in the story plods from A to B to C in an understandable way. If it had been the same story but not about Judge Dredd at all, I might be less harsh about it. Just some dude with no chin going upstairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Er, I love both movies……. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeyboy Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 I knew you’d say that! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucci Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 4 hours ago, sandman said: Er, I love both movies……. Sorry that's not allowed. That's the kind of thinking that started atheism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 7 hours ago, ZOK said: Just some dude with no chin going upstairs. I love the film but this is an amazing description. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeK Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 All I really wanted was Clint Eastwood wandering around the Cursed Earth as Deadman. Although at 90+ I guess that isn't going to happen any time soon. However, the idea of having someone make this genuinely horrific and creepy tale (in black and white, obviously), as a prelude to entering Megacity one in full on colourful Necropolis mode would probably blow my mind. That, or a little series about the failed scams of Otto Sump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 22 hours ago, Monkeyboy said: I knew you’d say that! Judge Dredd has a a special place in my heart as I saw it in the cinema the night before my wedding with my best man so it was my last film as a single man! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanR Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 1 hour ago, sandman said: Judge Dredd has a a special place in my heart as I saw it in the cinema the night before my wedding with my best man so it was my last film as a single man! Now you’re doing life, in an isocube, perp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanzo the Razor Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 On 20/08/2021 at 19:39, sandman said: Judge Dredd has a a special place in my heart as I saw it in the cinema the night before my wedding with my best man so it was my last film as a single man! I saw it at the pics too. Christ I'm old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve McQueef Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Christ, what age is Sandman? I was 17 when it came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darwock Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 I came to 2000AD late and started with the Dredd case files, been a subscriber to the prog and meg since 2015. Modern Dredd is nothing like classic Dredd at all, but you need to go through at least some of the early stuff. It’s got a very particular vibe, with comedy being the norm rather than the rare exception that it is these days. Some of the throw away lines written by Alan Grant and John Wagner were laugh out loud funny - I can still remember a few things that stuck with me but you can’t really explain it to other people - you need to read it! I say that as someone who experienced it with a modern perspective. I think I started from Blockmania (the first ‘epic’? or was Helltrekkers/The Cursed Earth before that…). The development into what it is today probably started with the ‘America’ story - been collected many times and is a perfect little snapshot of the serious side of that universe. Always a good read for people to get interested in Dredd without a massive investment. I always felt that when we inevitably lose John Wagner should be when they retire the character. It won’t happen (I do wonder if he ever wrote Dredd’s death story like he said he wanted to, and they just won’t publish it). Wagner very rarely writes any of the weekly Dredds these days, they’ve been future proofing themselves for a while. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Pickford Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Wagner hadn't written any Dredds for the Prog for ages (years?) but he's written the last two. I do miss the comedy stories from the Grant / Wagner days. They were peak Dredd for me. In my head Dredd is still a comedy / satire strip about modern city life extrapolated into the future, starring Mega City One, with Dredd as a kind of side character. But, the strips aren't really like that these days, and are mostly serious crime stories or about the old cop reflecting on what he's done. We do get the odd story about kooky citizens, but they rarely have the cleverness or relevance of the Grant / Wagner ones. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanzo the Razor Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 10 hours ago, Steve McQueef said: Christ, what age is Sandman? I was 17 when it came out. As was I. Born in 1977. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padaxes Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 If you wanted to pick one Dredd anthology type book to buy what would it be ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 12 hours ago, Steve McQueef said: Christ, what age is Sandman? I was 17 when it came out. Yeah what. That must mean he’s older than you. That’s surely impossible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 18 hours ago, Steve McQueef said: Christ, what age is Sandman? I was 17 when it came out. Almost 51. You used to get married younger back then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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