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Plissken

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Metallica had taken it as far they could go with "...And Justice" if they wanted to be stuck in that niche.  But they didn't, they wanted to be the biggest metal band in the world so they set their sights on that.  I just checked on Wikipedia and did over 300 gigs supporting the album - 174 shows in 15 months, immediately after release.

 

And the key thing is - no other metal band of their "level" were willing to make that kind of commitment.  I don't ever begrudge them their success, because they bloody worked hard for it.

 

Kind of funny to read back on this thread because I saw them in 2010 in Belfast and it really felt like a band that was phoning it in and had absolutely no idea what to do any more.  Whatever they did couldn't match the early 1990s and whenever they tried new stuff, it just backfired - sometimes fairly, sometimes unfairly.  For instance, I think "Load" is a great album. Whether it is a great Metallica album is an exercise for the reader.  They were becoming a punchline because they were trying too hard.  Funnily enough, I took a chance on them at Manchester Arena in 2018 (?) as part of the "Hardwired..." tour and I thought they were back to being brilliant, because they seemed relaxed and content with who they were and what they had achieved.

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I fucking love Metallica, so much so that I'm in a tribute band (I'm the drummer).

 

We haven't played together in ages, what with one thing and another, so we've made a bunch of videos instead. Now that I know there's a Metallica thread I'm going to plug them all at once here :D

 

These are in order of completion/release so far. You should be able to observe me getting gradually more competent at making videos :)

 

Fuel:

 

Master of Puppets:

 

One:

 

Sad But True:

 

The Day That Never Comes:

 

 

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Mike1812

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36 minutes ago, moosegrinder said:

There's a good album between Load and ReLoad.

Yeah, I've got a playlist of an imaginary combo of the two. Unimaginatively titled 'ShitLoad'.  I could probably even cut a couple. 

 

King

Memory

Sleeps

U2

Fuel

House

Bleeding

Carpe

Bitch

Devils

Mama

Outlaw

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So on the Black album the following are all killer tracks 

 

Sad But True

Wherever I May Roam

Don’t Tread On Me

My Friend of Misery (that bass intro :wub:)

 

The rest; it just doesn't really hit me even after a 29 year hiatus. I think with Sandman it was being played to death on release and it was such a departure from ...And Justice. The Unforgiven got on my tits with its art project promo video that came in at nearly 12 mins and just seemed so far removed from the Metallica that I loved. 

 

50% of the album I do like on revisit. 

 

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2 hours ago, idiwa said:

Don’t Tread On Me

Eh? I've never rated that song. And why is Through the Never not on your list? It's on my list!! :quote:

 

That Misery intro is all Newstead. There's a documentary of sorts that I have on DVD (yep, it's old) about the making of the Black Album, in it Newstead plays his original extended version of that intro. :)

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shirubagan

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Metallica were a huge part of my childhood and Puppets is etched in my soul, but watching them live is just painful. Lars can't play his own fucking songs, let alone keep time.

 

That ramp looks proper dangerous and slippery – fair play to them for resisting the urge to get fans up and turn it into a slip n slide.

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On 28/06/2022 at 17:11, yakumo said:

 

Its lifestyle determined its deathstyle.

 

:facepalm:

 

However, I fucking love their Whiskey in the Jar cover.

I prefer Turn The Page myself but that could be due to overexposure to Whisky

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yakumo

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My first exposure to Metallica was Load, and during that time is why I wrote them off. I heard Hero of the Day and thought it was just boring hard rock, and the rest didn't inspire me either. I admit it was narrow minded at the time, but man it was a time when buying CDs was the norm, and no one I knew were into metal so I couldn't borrow the classics. At the time I was into Sepultura, Pantera, Tool, NIN and hearing Load was a massive downgrade. Fast forward now, and I been listening to the discography during the pandemic and I admit Metallica fucking rule. I don't know why I decided to listen to the back catalogue but I think it was because I was trying to learn a riff and someone said it was similar to Metallica.

 

As for regards to Master of Puppets live video, I feel its badass, sorry the energy, and the whole crowd and it feels and looks like they're having a great time playing it together in the rain of all things and being badass.  

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Yeah, they were pretty amazing back in the 80s. And the Black album obviously did a lot to 'validate' metal.

 

Load and Reload have some decent songs, but they are bloated and self indulgent. 

 

After that, the albums are pretty poor.

 

But they are pretty crap these days, and have been for a long time.

 

One of, if not the best 'thrash' bands ever. Not sure there is a better one. Maybe Slayer, but again they are shite these days.

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On 04/09/2020 at 16:26, Plissken said:

Metallica had taken it as far they could go with "...And Justice" if they wanted to be stuck in that niche.  But they didn't, they wanted to be the biggest metal band in the world so they set their sights on that.  I just checked on Wikipedia and did over 300 gigs supporting the album - 174 shows in 15 months, immediately after release.

 

And the key thing is - no other metal band of their "level" were willing to make that kind of commitment.  I don't ever begrudge them their success, because they bloody worked hard for it.

 

Kind of funny to read back on this thread because I saw them in 2010 in Belfast and it really felt like a band that was phoning it in and had absolutely no idea what to do any more.  Whatever they did couldn't match the early 1990s and whenever they tried new stuff, it just backfired - sometimes fairly, sometimes unfairly.  For instance, I think "Load" is a great album. Whether it is a great Metallica album is an exercise for the reader.  They were becoming a punchline because they were trying too hard.  Funnily enough, I took a chance on them at Manchester Arena in 2018 (?) as part of the "Hardwired..." tour and I thought they were back to being brilliant, because they seemed relaxed and content with who they were and what they had achieved.

I saw them at the Antrim Forum in 1988, along with Danzig backing - the occasion with the infamous fire alarm cutting Danzigs set almost in half. 
 

was tragic as I much prefered Danzig!

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I lived and breathed the band in the 80s and 90s, and just as I learned to play bass along to Maiden’s back catalogue, i learned rhythm guitar to the first five Metallica albums. And yet I rarely listen to them these days; even the great stuff. Personal opinion is that they peaked creatively with AJFA, and although I literally played the Black Album to death (three tapes and two CDs) that was probably the start of my waning interest. I’ve always been a person whose long-term favourite albums are ones that have required work to get into, and although ‘Metallica’ was an instant attention grabber, the simplification of the songs meant that to me there were no real hidden depths to discover. Stuff since then has been patchy. As said, there’s a good album between Load/Reload; the in-studio live DVD of St Anger that came with my copy of the album is a better listen than the actual record, and every song could have done with two or more minutes being trimmed out. I do like some of Death Magnetic and Hardwired also. I think actually all the albums need a bloody good remix (except maybe Black/Load/Reload).

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