Team Fortress 2

[toonfool]

I haven't got a handle on the controls yet, completely useless. Leading me to have literally no fun at all tonight. Oh well, need to practise.

[chris on the moon]

i don't know how you can be so shit garry. never played a pc fps before? you are using wasd right? does your mouse have a scroll wheel? do you know you can press Q to switch to last weapon?

[Sirloin]

It took me ages to be comfortable with TF2, first real online FPS I've played.

And I think it helps I have a silly amount of time played now.

[Tom*]

nice sniping Rudi

I suck bad but it was pretty good fun

[toonfool]

i don't know how you can be so shit garry. never played a pc fps before? you are using wasd right? does your mouse have a scroll wheel? do you know you can press Q to switch to last weapon?

I used to play CS:S, where I was only useful as a radio man. Telling my team where the enemy was just before I died. With all talk on, I'm just baggage.

[Rudi von Starnberg]

A relevant tip - keep moving all the time. Never stand still if you can help it - that just makes you a target for filthy sniping whores like me. At the very least, step from side to side.

[toonfool]

I've played it loads on the 360, pretty handy on it. I just can't control it with KB/M.

Yet.

[Rudi von Starnberg]

If you've got a wired 360 pad then you can play with that. But you'll be at a rather big disadvantage compared to the mouse and keyboard players, as there's no aim assist or the like and you won't be able to manoeuvre as quickly.

Best to learn. It's really not that hard.

[toonfool]

There's no aim assist on the 360. Though I appreciate that KB/M is a more accurate control system.

[toonfool]

Digital walk controls are shit, mind. Twin sticks win there, I think.

[chris on the moon]

more control?

i'm just surprised as it's not like PC FPSes are a new thing. maybe you should just play half life 2 over and over and over again.

[giant_frying_pan]

Yeah. KB/M has more control so is harder to learn.

I've got a wired 360 pad but no driver. I suppose I could find that on the internet somewhere.

I should try that out for some game or other.

http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/download...category=Gaming

(can't link direct because you need to choose OS and stuff)

[Dalvado]

Digital walk controls are shit, mind. Twin sticks win there, I think.

Yes, absolutley, been saying that myself for ages now. Analogue sticks win on that count. Shame they can't incorporate it into PC games somehow along with the advantages of mouse aiming. It's all fine and well having so many keys on a keyboard but there's only so many keys within a comfortable range (for some) of WSAD and having those taken up by sprint and walk don't help (not an issue on TF2 as much though).

Sorry to anyone who got caught up in my bouts of "tangled hand panic syndrome" tonight. It's the reason I go quiet, use the voice presets or type that much. Cheers for the games.

[toonfool]

http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/download...category=Gaming

(can't link direct because you need to choose OS and stuff)

Right. I've installed that. How do I set it up to work with TF2?

[Dalvado]

Go through these articles.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article...=1445-TKCN-0831

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article...=6292-PQMG-6828

I tried the 360 pad on HL2 and it partly worked first time (some issues were apparent though) so they may have changed the games since the article was written.

EDIT: I'm an idiot, best ignore this post.

[Dalvado]

Actually, I've found this:

Type into the console "exec 360controller". It remaps all the buttons and also apparently makes the UI change too. To revert back simply enter "exec undo360controller" in the console.

[toonfool]

One of those (the 360 one) said at the end...

If you would like to use the typical Xbox controller setup, copy the following lines into the top of the config.cfg file for the proper game using notepad. The config.cfg file can be found in the same location referenced above - or enter each line manually into the developers console.

bind "JOY1" "+jump"

bind "JOY2" "+reload"

bind "JOY3" "+speed"

bind "JOY4" "+use"

bind "AUX5" "+attack2"

bind "AUX6" "+attack"

bind "AUX7" "impulse 100"

bind "AUX9" "+duck"

bind "AUX10" "+zoom"

bind "AUX29" "lastinv"

bind "AUX30" "invnext"

bind "AUX31" "phys_swap"

bind "AUX32" "invprev"

but the first line in the config file is...

unbindall bind "0"

...surely that's going to undo the config? I'll try it out.

[Dalvado]

Sorry toony, was too quick to post that. I found the "exec 360controller" method later on after doing that most vital of things; reading the whole page that I found the original links on.

Seems like using that method would be better as it changes the UI to the 360 UI.

http://ev3nt.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!...3!845.entry

[toonfool]

Thanks Dave, worked a treat.

[Simmy]

Enjoyed the games last night guys, same again tonight?

[Rudi von Starnberg]

I'm definitely up for it.

[daveodeth]

Digital walk controls are shit, mind. Twin sticks win there, I think.

In TF2 if you ain't walking fast as fuck your a sitting duck.

[Rudi von Starnberg]

Yeah, TF2 is definitely a game where the set movement speeds are part and parcel of the whole thing.

[chris on the moon]

yeah. tf2 is one of the first games where i've been totally satisfied with the mouse and keyboard controls and are probably actually better with them.

particularly being a scout.

[toonfool]

Oh, I wasn't suggesting a slow walk is the good part of analogue controls. It's the 360° directional control that's better. Clearly analogue is better than 8-direction.

Mind, I admit that I'm using an inferior system. But in my hands, it's better than my fucked up KB/M antics.

[toonfool]

Right, on to improvements. What level did we just end up playing one round on? And what kind of level was it? I'll try to sort out the settings.

[Rudi von Starnberg]

We only played one round of pl_goldrush. Payload maps are great fun and so it's good to let each team have a go at both attack and defence.

[Vimster]

Sorry I ducked out after a couple of games, my PC was playing up

[Sirloin]

I'll be about tonight I expect. I'll keep an eye on the server and pop on if I see it fill up.

[giant_frying_pan]

I couldn't make last night unfortunately, but I should be on today, if I don't fall asleep from the heat. I'll keep an eye on the server from 18:00 onwards-ish.