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These two gentlemen should be able to sell you on the game.

They both started dancing together. Matching up to the screen and hitting it correctly! Then fatty steps away and...oh they're still hitting it exactly to time.

So it was a video then?

Great demonstration!

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dance masters is more a pose matching game, it checks the players pose every time you see the green silhouette zoom into the 3d avatar, its not continuously reading your body, apart from when you have to do the trace motions with your hands.. the character models are prettier than dance centrals though...

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Hey, do you remember when the MS added Xbox Live! and everyone was kinda like "PAH! A subscription based online service, that's MENTAL, it'll NEVER work" and then it kinda did because MS told everyone to add Live! features but aside from the hardcore Halo players and a couple of other games it was late in the development cycle and was just a kinda cool idea that didn't really hit the mark and then BAM! it became a central part of the next generations experience and had all clearly been done as a learning experience to see what did and didn't work and to help them understand how to position their next machine?

Oh, why, hello Kinect.

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Hey, do you remember when the MS added Xbox Live! and everyone was kinda like "PAH! A subscription based online service, that's MENTAL, it'll NEVER work" and then it kinda did because MS told everyone to add Live! features but aside from the hardcore Halo players and a couple of other games it was late in the development cycle and was just a kinda cool idea that didn't really hit the mark and then BAM! it became a central part of the next generations experience and had all clearly been done as a learning experience to see what did and didn't work and to help them understand how to position their next machine?

Oh, why, hello Kinect.

BAM! There it is!

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Hey, do you remember when the MS added Xbox Live! and everyone was kinda like "PAH! A subscription based online service, that's MENTAL, it'll NEVER work" and then it kinda did because MS told everyone to add Live! features but aside from the hardcore Halo players and a couple of other games it was late in the development cycle and was just a kinda cool idea that didn't really hit the mark and then BAM! it became a central part of the next generations experience and had all clearly been done as a learning experience to see what did and didn't work and to help them understand how to position their next machine?

Oh, why, hello Kinect.

I weep for the next generation.

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Hey, do you remember when the MS added Xbox Live! and everyone was kinda like "PAH! A subscription based online service, that's MENTAL, it'll NEVER work" and then it kinda did because MS told everyone to add Live! features but aside from the hardcore Halo players and a couple of other games it was late in the development cycle and was just a kinda cool idea that didn't really hit the mark and then BAM! it became a central part of the next generations experience and had all clearly been done as a learning experience to see what did and didn't work and to help them understand how to position their next machine?

Oh, why, hello Kinect.

That was a Microsoft with it's own direction, this Microsoft is chasing a market that frankly is dwindling away.

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3m units to sell over Christmas?

At these prices?

On the XBOX of all consoles?

Oh dear.

I wouldn't rule it out - I think the thing about kinect is that with retailers pushing as hard as they are and if MS get the television marketing right plus the fact it's out far enough before Xmas for word-of-mouth and people to do the wii thing of trying it round a mates and instantly deciding they must have it it could very well happen.

Boom or Bust ? I reckon somewhere in the middle.

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Hey, do you remember when the MS added Xbox Live! and everyone was kinda like "PAH! A subscription based online service, that's MENTAL, it'll NEVER work" and then it kinda did because MS told everyone to add Live! features but aside from the hardcore Halo players and a couple of other games it was late in the development cycle and was just a kinda cool idea that didn't really hit the mark and then BAM! it became a central part of the next generations experience and had all clearly been done as a learning experience to see what did and didn't work and to help them understand how to position their next machine?

Oh, why, hello Kinect.

Yes but Live made sense to the product because people want to play shooters online (see: Counterstrike). And £40 a year is not expensive. It's not free, but it is mostly worth the money.

Kinect makes no sense to the product. The Xbox as a brand is the most hardcore gaming console. It's not a family-friendly brand.

What Microsoft should have done is develop a different device, a dedicated device with online-only games perhaps, requiring no Xbox at all. That would have allowed them to brand it properly, get its own message out etc.

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Conspiracy ahoy...

the BBC had some prof on today talking about an alternative to BMI - something called BVI, that measures the flab around your waist and this is done using a 'special 3D scanner'. The interviewer then asked when we were likely to see it available to us in the NHS and the prof said that there would be a special announcement soon.

They also had some other thing on about BVI...

Just watch - this will be MS' attempt to take on WiiFit. The only accurate way of measuring the superior BVI *in the comfort of your own home!* (game comes with free set of scales)

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Anecdotally kinect pre-orders on play.com look okayish coming in at number 17, packaged with kinect adventures and just above the collectors edition of Gran Turismo 5. Obviously collectors editions don't sell by the bucket load though, so quite whether this is much of a predictor of success or not is anybody's guess.

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Kinect makes no sense to the product. The Xbox as a brand is the most hardcore gaming console. It's not a family-friendly brand.

Yes traditionally. But for the last three years Microsoft having been pushing to be that family centric company, Avatards are slowly becoming the face of the company as a whole, they are on Windows 7 phones and I bet it won't be long until some Avatard pops up in word to give me a tutorial. It's a strange metamorphosis going on with the company and a very unnatural one. But I believe Kinect will succeed at getting big numbers for a year or so.

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Conspiracy ahoy...

the BBC had some prof on today talking about an alternative to BMI - something called BVI, that measures the flab around your waist and this is done using a 'special 3D scanner'. The interviewer then asked when we were likely to see it available to us in the NHS and the prof said that there would be a special announcement soon.

They also had some other thing on about BVI...

Just watch - this will be MS' attempt to take on WiiFit. The only accurate way of measuring the superior BVI *in the comfort of your own home!* (game comes with free set of scales)

BVI though is based on your waist/saddlebag measurements versus other bits of your body. I thought kinect tracked your skeleton rather than the flab surrounding it :)

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I wouldn't rule it out - I think the thing about kinect is that with retailers pushing as hard as they are and if MS get the television marketing right plus the fact it's out far enough before Xmas for word-of-mouth and people to do the wii thing of trying it round a mates and instantly deciding they must have it it could very well happen.

Boom or Bust ? I reckon somewhere in the middle.

In order to sell it to new customers, they have to sell Xboxes to new customers too. And xboxes are the least fam-friendly thing out there.

On the other hand, their existing customers by and large prefer Halo or indie games to casual games. So selling it to those people is also going to be hard because they'll never ever want Kinectimals.

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In order to sell it to new customers, they have to sell Xboxes to new customers too. And xboxes are the least fam-friendly thing out there.

On the other hand, their existing customers by and large prefer Halo or indie games to casual games. So selling it to those people is also going to be hard because they'll never ever want Kinectimals.

The new Slim 360s are a much more appealing than the original design. They even have the friendly Avatards on the box to welcome in the casual crowd. The price of an arcade is also spot on for an impulse purchase at the till in Tesco. Let's not forget that games like COD are generally played by the casual as well as a hardcore gamer, so seeing a Kinect bundle and COD would be something for the whole family.

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