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sigh. You know the bit on wii fit where you stand on the balance board with you feet apart and it tells you where your centre if gravity is? Could kinect do that? Yes or no? And most yoga poses are that taken to different extremes. Yes kinect would be better at telling if your arms were in the right position, wiifit assumes they are and measures the Important stuff.

balance isn't man fitness. But for chicks that yoga stuff is what they call exercise, and that's all about balance. Something best measured with a balance board.

more trip trapping here but hey why not bite.

Simple Question

In a professional Yoga class with say 15 people all posing/exercising, how does the instructor know that your balance is correct?

Do they

a) do it by using a set of scales to determine electronically your centre of gravity?

or

b) Watch your pose and how well you hold it without wobbling?

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He could guess fairly accurately, but he'd be way more precise with a board measuring tiny movements in weight and pressure, surely.

Presumably then all decent professional Yoga instructors are embracing this new technology and all professional Yoga classes have balance boards in them?

If not then I suggest anyone in a Yoga class is getting ripped off by poor/inaccurate instruction and they should all go and buy Wiifit!

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LOL! I don't use WiiFit.

But there is no way that YOUR SHAPE can check your balance was well as the balance board. Use your brain, It's doesn't go from not putting your weight on the correct leg to falling over. There's having your weight on the wrong leg, something Kinect couldn't possibly know.

So the Wii fit board cannot tell you if your are using correct form or technique so whats you point?

sigh. You know the bit on wii fit where you stand on the balance board with you feet apart and it tells you where your centre if gravity is? Could kinect do that? Yes or no? And most yoga poses are that taken to different extremes. Yes kinect would be better at telling if your arms were in the right position, wiifit assumes they are and measures the Important stuff.

balance isn't man fitness. But for chicks that yoga stuff is what they call exercise, and that's all about balance. Something best measured with a balance board.

Serious question, do you practice yoga?

Presumably then all decent professional Yoga instructors are embracing this new technology and all professional Yoga classes have balance boards in them?

If not then I suggest anyone in a Yoga class is getting ripped off by poor/inaccurate instruction and they should all go and buy Wiifit!

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I know that we have people who work in games retail here, how has the launch gone thus far? How were the midnight openings? Are Gamestations across the country being beseiged by pensioners and housewives as we speak?

I got one from HMV this morning - it was dead.

The game a few doors down though had a queue of about 15 people all with their preorder slips.

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Isn't this just a test for the tech, so it will eventually be built into the new Xbox (whenever that appears), just like Live Arcade on the original Xbox?

I think Kinect is way too overpriced for an experiment like this, but it should work well for it's next-gen xbox respawn.

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Anecdotal ahoy...

Mine's just arrived from Argos.

The delivery man said "is this that new game, that Kinect thing?"

I agreed.

He said "ahh, we're delivering loads of them today. The whole lorry is pretty much full"

Sounds like MS have done their marketing well.

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I for one am looking forward to paying even more over the odds for the next Xbox for some motion tech I'll never use.

Ditto

The waggle stuff has its place on all 3 consoles but I believe it should be an optional peripheral for those who want the "casual/party" stuff. Just like eyetoy,buzz,singstar,guitar hero, dj hero and rockband... You dont have to fork out if you dont want to play those party style games...

If it is built in then it needs to be affordable at launch like Wii.... no premium price tags like £425 for launch please ;)

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Well shut my gob, this is selling? I'd get one if the tech really really works well and a game comes out that is unmissable.

Microsoft have definitely improved their "first thirty minutes" user experience over the ridiculousness that was the first xbox - you're instructed to put the disk in, and a bit of calibration later you're away and swaying lightly from side to side playing River Rush.

Which could be a Wii balance board game with fancy graphics.

Except you can jump. And play with more than one player.

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Not with a button you clown. I was lying earlier, I fucking love WiiFit and play it every day. There's actually a game called SKI JUMP. You jump in that. Also the excellent obstacle course in WiiFit+.

Yes yes you're not allowed to leave the balance board when you jump but it's still a jump.

By definition that is not a jump....

So you are performing an action which ISNT a jump to make the jump happen on screen...

how intuitive...

I had wiifit ... that ski jumping thing was shit because u had to do a weird action to make it jump...

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By definition that is not a jump....

So you are performing an action which ISNT a jump to make the jump happen on screen...

how intuitive...

I had wiifit ... that ski jumping thing was shit because u had to do a weird action to make it jump...

Weird action? Straightening your legs? Yeah, that is pretty tricky. I guess.

In a real Ski Jump you don't really jump. The ramp does it. I tricked you there and you fell into my trap.

Is Clipper short for Caliper Legs?

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Weird action? Straightening your legs? Yeah, that is pretty tricky. I guess.

In a real Ski Jump you don't really jump. The ramp does it. I tricked you there and you fell into my trap.

Is Clipper short for Caliper Legs?

yes it is you insensitive bastard...

in other news

- Eurogamer did not mention anywhere in their review that wiifit was better because it checked balance or weighed you

- You can't jump in wiifit all you can do is wrench your knee by crouching and straightening your legs being careful NOT to jump at any time just in case you break your expensive bathroom scales.

- All waggle games are for kids or grown men who want attract kids to play with them :)

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I sat through all the first looks on the Giant Bomb site this morning and whilst there are some really cool widgety things (like the camera being able to detect a colour from an external source and use it in game), I can't justify buying one right now. It appears that the camera works a lot better than cameras for these things in the past but that said, I don't have enough experience of the Wii (or indeed, Move) to make a direct comparison.

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Well it looks like GAME has finally sold out of standalone Kinects.

Friend just tried to buy one and their all out. Amazon and Gamestation as well.

There were a couple in Sainsburys at lunchtime. And a bit of advertising.

But no games on display.

*facepalm*

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I'm definitely interested in Child of Eden, but I await the reviews and impressions of the final product, the (early) videos of Child of Eden controlled by Kinect looked a bit messy.

Because it only has to track your hands, the final product should have the bare minimum of lag. Hopefully.

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