The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword

[Teeohbee.]

There's negativity, and then there's antagonistic negativity. Guess which one bcass is. There's also antagonistic positivity, like ramone in the sales thread. That one's funnier though.

Riding in on my winged Epona now, I'd say Scottcr definitely has the antagonising positivity factor.

[Darren]

Meanwhile I'm thoroughly enjoying my first play of TP. I've reached the Zoras' domain and I've got to thaw it out.

I'm loving the (seemingly) vast map, although it's a pity it isn't (or can't be?) presented as one continuous area like Shadow of the Colossus, rather than pause for loading between areas.

I'm certainly not finding it turgid, uninspired, lazy, dull etc. etc., but then again I speak as someone who completed OOT twice, so maybe my Zelda-boredom threshold is freakishly high.

[Hewson]

* nintendo defence force (childish use but not sure how else to describe them)

Yeah, it is childish and a bit weird. I didn't particularly enjoy Twilight Princess, but claiming that people posting positively about a universally well-reviewed game is a fanboy conspiracy is weak and strangely pointless.

[Joyrex-J9]

Guys, pack it in.

Less bitching and personal abuse and more Zelda...

Don't make me fire up the warnatron, not in a Zelda thread

[Stolly]

It's not. There's a dedicated topic for that game. I'm sure the search function will bring it up.

Haha.... bollocks. Those who are suggesting changes and improvements or even disinterest in the next Zelda game obviously refer to TP to make their point and those then that liked TP respond back. Are you saying its okay to criticise based on experiences playing TP but not in any way positively say how much you might in turn have enjoyed it?

My concerns with the next Zelda are more along the lines of them changing things away from what the games have always done - I get this gut feeling that bcas for example would want an on-line co-op mode or something on-liney which, for me, would kill the game dead. In its tracks

[Swallow]

Why would bcass want to play with somebody else? He'd just end up quitting all the time.

[Teeohbee.]

I think we can all agree that an online Zelda game would be a travesty.

[Sprite Machine]

Haha.... bollocks. Those who are suggesting changes and improvements or even disinterest in the next Zelda game obviously refer to TP to make their point and those then that liked TP respond back. Are you saying its okay to criticise based on experiences playing TP but not in any way positively say how much you might in turn have enjoyed it?

No, I'm saying that, for example, Darren's playthrough report on Twilight Princess is perhaps not best suited to this topic.

[scottcr]

I think we can all agree that an online Zelda game would be a travesty.

I don't think there's any danger of that.

[Stolly]

No, I'm saying that, for example, Darren's playthrough report on Twilight Princess is perhaps not best suited to this topic.

Still disagree - Darren, by playing TP as we prattle on about the next game, is providing very important reminders of the game, most of which I've long forgotten

[Broker]

No, I'm saying that, for example, Darren's playthrough report on Twilight Princess is perhaps not best suited to this topic.... here in the land of no joy.

Fixed.

[Sprite Machine]

Still disagree - Darren, by playing TP as we prattle on about the next game, is providing very important reminders of the game, most of which I've long forgotten

http://www.rllmukforum.com/index.php?showtopic=95641

[Stolly]

Watch out Dareen, the thread gestapo are onto you

[Darren]

No, I'm saying that, for example, Darren's playthrough report on Twilight Princess is perhaps not best suited to this topic.

Hmm sorry. It all started because I said in this thread that I still hadn't played TP even though I'm still looking forward to the next one. Then a few people told me to give it another go, which I did, and it sort of naturally carried on from there. I'm not trying to derail this thread.

I am guilty of trying to offer an alternative opinion to bcass' constant whinging though. Perhaps I should learn from his technique and just slip in some stealth TP comments into my posts. If he can get away with describing this thread as "a lame wankathon about the achingly average Twilight Princess", then perhaps I should start wondering whether the next Zelda will use motionplus to improve on the already excellent horseback combat from the thoroughly excellent Twilight Princess.

Still disagree - Darren, by playing TP as we prattle on about the next game, is providing very important reminders of the game, most of which I've long forgotten

But I'll take further TP playthrough comments to the TP thread if that's what people want.

[Sprite Machine]

It's just sensible, isn't it? If someone in a year's time was searching for your comments on Twilight Princess, they'd have trouble finding them in the "Legend Of Zelda: The Sword Lady" topic. That's why we have different topics for different games, y'know.

[Darren]

I doubt anybody would ever want to search for my comments on anything, but point taken.

[Sprite Machine]

Awww... don't say that; you're one of the good ones.

[Broker]

Surely the adverse effect here will be that discussion will now have two main page threads about Zelda, one of which is about a game which is years old, when the minor comments on TP could easily have fitted in here?

[Sprite Machine]

Surely the adverse effect here will be that discussion will now have two main page threads about Zelda, one of which is about a game which is years old...

Why is that an adverse effect? Darren's playing it now, so the topic is relevant now.

[Darren]

No I think Sprite's point is fair enough - this is the wrong thread for TP playthrough chat but as I said it started out as a natural development from this discussion.

If I find I'm talking to myself in the other thread I'll bring it back here though!

[Broker]

Not to anyone else. I'm reading this topic anyway and his comments on TP were in context in that this is a non-specific Zelda thread with no real focus yet because the game hasn't been properly shown.

[Sprite Machine]

this is a non-specific Zelda thread

It's not. It's a thread specifically for the new Wii Zelda game.

[Broker]

Which there is no information about and everyone is just suggesting flying horses?

[Joyrex-J9]

I can always close the thread until there is more information available.

Actually the way things are going that's not a bad idea

[Sprite Machine]

No point locking it. Speculation and ideas are still relevant to the topic. Otherwise just let it drop down the page.

[Joyrex-J9]

No point locking it. Speculation and ideas are still relevant to the topic. Otherwise just let it drop down the page.

I wasn't being serious.

[Stolly]

Is sprite machine in danger of turning this into a 'wankathon' of politically correct thread posting?

I for one find Darren's posts about twilight princess far more relevant to this thread than SM's posts asking Darren not to post on this thread about actually playing TP (not allowed) rather than generically using TP experiences to add to the conversation regarding the next Zelda game (allowable with care).

[Sprite Machine]

Is sprite machine in danger of turning this into a 'wankathon' of politically correct thread posting?

I don't know. What's a 'wankathon', and how is it political?

Is Stolly in danger or asking rhetorical questions?

I for one find Darren's posts about twilight princess far more relevant to this thread than SM's posts asking Darren not to post on this thread about actually playing TP (not allowed) rather than generically using TP experiences to add to the conversation regarding the next Zelda game (allowable with care).

Finding one thing more relevant than another doesn't make either actually relevant.

If you were making a point about derailing a topic by commenting on the the derailing of the topic, then I fear the irony has been lost on you.

[Stolly]

I don't know. What's a 'wankathon', and how is it political?

Is Stolly in danger or asking rhetorical questions?

Finding one thing more relevant than another doesn't make either actually relevant.

If you were making a point about derailing a topic by commenting on the the derailing of the topic, then I fear the irony has been lost on you.

Okay my last 'ironic' derail on this thread. Sprite machine, do you also make sure all your jam jars face the same way in your kitchen cupboard and iron your socks?

Its a gaming forum and just let your hair down and chill from time to time

[bcass]

My concerns with the next Zelda are more along the lines of them changing things away from what the games have always done - I get this gut feeling that bcas for example would want an on-line co-op mode or something on-liney which, for me, would kill the game dead. In its tracks

Wow, you couldn't be more wrong. You won't find a single pro-co-op post by me on this forum. That's not to say that there isn't room for some online elements though. Have a look at Demon's Souls for one interesting development in that area that could suit Zelda.

Still disagree - Darren, by playing TP as we prattle on about the next game, is providing very important reminders of the game, most of which I've long forgotten

That's because it's so eminently forgettable. I played the game through to completion, and I can barely remember anything about it, which can't be said for the superior Zeldas that pre-date it.

Watch out Dareen, the thread gestapo are onto you

The biggest gestapo on this forum are the nintendo-herd who never *ever* take criticism of nintendo or their products with any grace whatsoever. I find it amazing that people would take it so personally, to the extent that they start hurling personal insults. And yes, I'm fully aware that I called scott a Dick, but that was a play on words based on him calling me a Tim (which I thought was obvious, but obviously needed explaining to some who took it the wrong way).