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Tumbler - Again, the technology side works perfectly and I was impressed with the accuracy however I found the game extremely dull. I wouldn't stack blocks in real life and I don't get any fun out of it as a game. Maybe for toddlers or something, but to me this is the equivalent of playing with a child's block set. Are people really enjoying playing this? I'm surprised (unless the rest of the game has some sort of puzzle element I'm not getting).

The rest of the game has some sort of puzzle element you're not getting.

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Picked this up today.

Currys Digital seem to be doing everything at £5 off rrp.

Played around with the demo's and purchased Sports Champion, RE Gold and Eyepet (£6 in HMV, downloading the patch). Seems good and much more responsive than the Wii. Just a quick question...where do you have your camera? top or middle?

Why would you have it in the middle of your screen?

It goes either on the bottom middle and faces up, or top middle and faces straight or up (or down if your playing eyepet).

You can get brackets for the top of your TV if you want to put it at the top.

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So then!

I've played on Kinect , now own Playstation Move and of course a Wii.

the way I see it, is that PSMove is based on the Wii technology ( well.. duh! ) and works

just as well because there is a sense of interaction.

However, the games lineup have very little or no charm. Once Sony get their finger out and release some of the Everybody's series ( Golf , Tennis ... or whatever else ) then things might hot up.

At the moment I much prefer Wakeboarding around Wiisports Island, and throwing frisbees at my pet dog. ( something which could easily be done on PSMove of course )

Onto KINECT... I believe that yes, its some super duper new technology. Probably well in advance of both the Wii and PSMove. But I think its pretty crap all the same.

Why? because of the exact thing Kinect wants to sell us. " YOU! are the controller "

From what i found, unless you go and get an Umbrella to use as a wand , or a Saucepan lid to use as a steering wheel, its a pretty shitty experience so far.

Okay then .. so virtually all the PSMove games are a bit pants. but the tech works and its under 50 notes.

Its a winner I think, but if some games ( Like Everybodys Golf ) dont show up on the horizon,the controller will be sold. I dont want another Eyetoy.

- Hopefully Microsoft will keep the race going.

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I don't understand this, it it the lack of AAA games at launch that has put you off?

I think it's the fact that it's just technology with very little in the way of gaming. I love user interface technology and I'm a sucker for anything new to the market, because I see its potential. When the Eyetoy came out I bought it, and I was massively impressed. The ninja batting game was so responsive, and when me and my friends added the use of bottles/samurai sword to the mix we had hours of fun. I even played that stupid dance game on it because it was new technology and a new way to interact. Unfortunately the games never really went anywhere so after the initial excitement wore off it just died a slow death, never realising its potential.

DS came along and I bought 2 versions of that because I thought touch screen was great. Again it had that initial wow factor because it was new technology. That was the backed up with excellent games and it started to live up to its potential.

When the Wii was announced I was really excited, and once again bought it on launch and bought a bunch of games for it. I think it promised more than it was able to deliver, especially in the first year. Nintendo released some awesome stuff, don't get me wrong, but I think I fell in love more with what I thought it could do than what developers actually did.

So now we have Move. The combination of Eyetoy, which I thought had never reached its potential, with a version of the technology I had hoped for with the Wii. Once again I'm jumping on board early, but I do recognise the pattern early on. It's about the technology and potential at the moment. I can't see anything at the moment which actually seems to live up to what the system is capable of. Start the Party is basically Eyetoy level games with new gen graphics, the sports games have been done on the Wii already, the navigation on the dashboard just doesn't work as well as using the controller (which is natural, since the dashboard was designed for a controller, unlike the Wii) and Move functionality is being shoehorned into places where it doesn't add anything in a mad search for finding a use for the technology.

The technology is worth getting excited about but developers need to start thinking outside the box with it or we're going to be stuck in the same rut as Eyetoy and the many shovelware Wii titles. Generally when things work on the Wii and even DS it was the none obvious uses of the technology. Interpreting it as something new rather than the literal touchscreen/waggle. Wario Ware did a good job of making you look at the remote as something different (with the different ways you had to hold it, many of which were ways you'd never hold a traditional remote). Hotel Dusk had novel ways to use the DS too and those were the memorable bits.

At the moment the games use the camera and Move controller in the most literal way. The camera is mostly used as, well, a camera. And it's generally shit in my opinion because the image quality is poor and when you're trying to immerse yourself in a game and get away from reality for a bit all you're getting is your own untidy room projected back at you on your TV whilst your pasty, hungover self is reflected back under the harsh lighting needed to get things working properly.

Anyway, it's early days, but as I said, I would find it hard to recommend to anybody I know. I guess I'm just impatient about when we'll move past the shoehorned controls and obvious use the tech. I think there are more people like me and I think my other post just confirms what they were thinking, that this is where we are. Still.

The rest of the game has some sort of puzzle element you're not getting.

Ok I'll have to look more into it. I liked the presentation and thought the controls were perfect, I just couldn't get over the fact I was stacking blocks like a toddler and that the only reason I was doing it was because I had a new controller. Like turning the page on iBook being cool, despite the fact I can flick an actual book page whenever I want.

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Played a few of the demos over the weekend. The kids went proper mental playing Start the Party more so than anything they played on the Wii (which they used to demand a lot). I think live feed + augmented reality is really impressive, even the wife wanted to play. Which she did, we played Start the Party, Sports Champions and Echocrome ii. All of which were big hits. Going to have to go out at lunch and pickup Start the Party.

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Also if you don't have a flat surface to put you PS eye on the top of your TV you can just hang it over the top edge. Apparently this is how Richard Marks the inventor of Eye toy and Move does it and it's why the base has a flat edge. I'll see if I can find links to the exact technique...

Here it is.

http://kotaku.com/5626933/how-to-mount-that-playstation-eye-camera-with-minimal-fuss

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I agree with Monkichi. The concern I have with this is that there'll be few dedicated games for it. I imagine it'll mainly be bolt on to regular games. Tbh, this is great for 3rd person games - but why would a developer take the chance of creating dedicated games for this? They're just massively reducing their addressable market. I know a number of PS3 owners - only a few are bothering with Move.

See also - M+ for the Wii.

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Apologies in advance as I'm sure the answer will be back in this thread somewhere. I'm getting this later this week together with probably sports champions. So do I need an extra controller too as one of the pictures I've seen of archery shows two controllers being used, one as the bow and the other as the bow string/arrow?

I'm already planning on getting one of the 'nunchuck' controllers as well, although I think I can hold a six axis in my left hand can't I as a stand in half arsed nunchuck?

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Also if you don't have a flat surface to put you PS eye on the top of your TV you can just hang it over the top edge. Apparently this is how Richard Marks the inventor of Eye toy and Move does it and it's why the base has a flat edge. I'll see if I can find links to the exact technique...

Here it is.

http://kotaku.com/5626933/how-to-mount-that-playstation-eye-camera-with-minimal-fuss

That's fucking brilliant. I'm going to try to combine it with the wii sensor.

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