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Harsin

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Dandy Sephy will be along shortly to murder you if his reaction in the Anime thread is anything to go by.

Just read that thread you weren't kidding. -_-

"Oh no the baka gaijin have got their space marines in my precious cartoons from Glorious Nippon!"

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I've got back into the Haloverse bigtime lately so I'm really looking forward to this.

Have you ever seen the Stormtrooper, almost silent, episode of the original clone wars? I'd love to see a short like that featuring the Spartan IIIs (Ghosts of Onyx).

More Gravemind too plz.

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Horses for courses.

I like how the gravemind potentially has eons of knowledge about the Forerunners and is deliberately kept largely unexplained.

The gravemind has been shown to be decietful, plotting, patient and manipulative, theres a lot more to it than a couple of tentacles and dodgy rhymes.

I think I like the extended Halo universe from the novels more than the plots of the games really. It's no set of masterpieces but it is fun to read.

I actually like the flood too -_- Theres a great sequence in the Halo: The Flood book where a flood infected marine retains full awareness of whats happening to him even thogh he has no control of his actions.

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In all honesty I'm not expecting brilliance (remember how awesome everyone thought the Animatrix was then it came out and it wasa big pile of shite?), but it looks pretty.

I tought some of them were pretty good.

I'm not expecting brilliance either, but I do like the look (and sound) of it. Not a Halo fanboy at all (though I like the games and universe), but color me interested. -_-

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I wonder why these big American executives keep heading over to Japan to get these short films done, it's not as if there isn't a ton of animation talent on their own shores, not to mention over here in the UK and everywhere else. It'd certainly make for more interesting variety. While Animatrix had a couple of really great shorts, I thought all the Batman ones were really really weak.

As for Halo Legends, the concept sounds ridiculous but nobody can judge it from just press releases and snippets of footage.

I bet the guys at IG and Studio4C etc had themselves a good laugh at the awful Halo character designs they've been handed, though.

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That Batman was a bit shit IMHO but I did like some of the Animatrix ones, more the idea than anything else though to be fair (running so fast the chap 'broke' the matrix was quite cool).

I do like I.G. but in comparison to their Japan output (GITS etc) the western stuff is just a bit... I dunno... trying to be western? That bit in Kill Bill, which was great animation etc but I just didn't like the style in regards to looking overly pencilled (lots of 'lines' and a bit scribbled) in comparison to the second GITS film or even GITS: SAC, which were much cleaner....

I can just be thankful that they haven't got Tycho from Penny Arcade to animate any of it :blah:

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I wonder why these big American executives keep heading over to Japan to get these short films done, it's not as if there isn't a ton of animation talent on their own shores

Well, consider the studios that exist in the US and also in UK. Most of them are involved in the bread & butter work that is producing animation of kids or teen TV shows. There's still very little of an adult market for 2D or 3D animated films or TV shows. Outside of comedy, US networks won't touch it. In smaller markets like the UK, there's the same attitude plus there simply aren't the budgets to make it worthwhile.

In Japan and other parts of Asia animation that isn't targeted for children is both culturally accepted and a very well proven medium. As a result, they get the backing and the support to do some amazing stuff. Sure the narrative and needless excessive exposition can be flawed, but without a doubt: visually they produce incredible work.

Also, be thankful that the Frank O'Connor and the execs controlling the budgets within 343 are dealing with Japanese creatives. I wouldn't want to tell them how to do their jobs and micro-manage them, so hopefully neither will they.

Oh and the Animatrix wasn't perfect as a project, but I'm very glad it happened. Aside from that project and this one, when else have Japanese animation studios and directors been asked to collaborate, in making shorts films about with a entertainment property from the West?

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That Batman was a bit shit IMHO but I did like some of the Animatrix ones, more the idea than anything else though to be fair (running so fast the chap 'broke' the matrix was quite cool).

I do like I.G. but in comparison to their Japan output (GITS etc) the western stuff is just a bit... I dunno... trying to be western? That bit in Kill Bill, which was great animation etc but I just didn't like the style in regards to looking overly pencilled (lots of 'lines' and a bit scribbled) in comparison to the second GITS film or even GITS: SAC, which were much cleaner....

I can just be thankful that they haven't got Tycho from Penny Arcade to animate any of it :lol:

If you watch the trailer, it matches the studio names with brief clips of the shorts they're doing. Note that a Studio 4C and I.G. are doing two each (with one of 4C's being a two parter).

The two I.G. ones seem to be one rather overly-CGish one (in my opinion, anyway) featuring Elites in funky-looking armour (pre-covenant, possibly, as i think i read that that would be one of the scenarios covered by someone), and one featuring a female spartan with nice clean art more reminiscent of SAC (the grungy-looking bits around the edges of the first shot are thanks to the trailer framing, and are there in all the clips except the bit right at the end):

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I think I like the extended Halo universe from the novels more than the plots of the games really. It's no set of masterpieces but it is fun to read.

I would agree with you here. I think the military training and pre spartan, spartan parts are especially excellent.

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Well, consider the studios that exist in the US and also in UK. Most of them are involved in the bread & butter work that is producing animation of kids or teen TV shows. There's still very little of an adult market for 2D or 3D animated films or TV shows. Outside of comedy, US networks won't touch it. In smaller markets like the UK, there's the same attitude plus there simply aren't the budgets to make it worthwhile.

In Japan and other parts of Asia animation that isn't targeted for children is both culturally accepted and a very well proven medium. As a result, they get the backing and the support to do some amazing stuff. Sure the narrative and needless excessive exposition can be flawed, but without a doubt: visually they produce incredible work.

Also, be thankful that the Frank O'Connor and the execs controlling the budgets within 343 are dealing with Japanese creatives. I wouldn't want to tell them how to do their jobs and micro-manage them, so hopefully neither will they.

I don't think that's the reason at all, because there are plenty of US and UK directors that don't just produce kids stuff, as well as plenty of facilities to produce the work. And since they're obviously selling this to the fans, the perception of animation by massmarket western audiences isn't an issue.

As the trailer really makes a big deal of the studios involved, and knowing Microsoft's strategy in a lot of their Xbox 360 marketing, I think it's more to do with getting credibility upfront with endorsement from big names. And fair enough, if that's the case. These Japanese studios are obviously tried-and-tested hit-makers, and there's probably a reasonable amount of crossover between the core gamers Microsoft are targeting with this, and fans of Anime.

And of course, I'm sure the fact that the Japanese can work wonders with a budget half the size of something done in the US/UK, is a nice bonus.

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Lothar Hex

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I think I like the extended Halo universe from the novels more than the plots of the games really. It's no set of masterpieces but it is fun to read.

Yeah, I think Gabe from PA once said something to the effect of that they have this really interesting universe full of good characters and stories, but you see fuck all of that in the games.

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As for Halo Legends, the concept sounds ridiculous but nobody can judge it from just press releases and snippets of footage.

Well all past instances where a load of shorts have been commissioned for promotional purposes have resulted in tripe, and also Frank O'Connor is involved. A third Alien vs Predator film could theoretically be good but I wouldn't get my hopes up with that either.

The reason it's being done in Japan is cost and perceived artistic legitimacy (otherwise they'd cut out the middleman and get it done in Korea), ignoring the fact that all of these studios will do adverts for anything if the price is right.

I like the way this is coming out on Blu-Ray but they can't bring themselves to refer to it by name.

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Halo Legends Preview

Well it looks like Halo and it certainly looks like anime so... job done, I guess. Even the voice acting is exactly what you'd expect from an American anime dub. ;)

I wonder if there'll be a Japanese language option?

Edit 1: Link fixed. Embedded Youtube videos don't seem to working. Or more likely, I'm doing it wrong.

Edit 2: Hang on a second! What's this doing in Discussion?

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If McDonalds made a McSushi Sandwich it couldn't be more ill-judged than that clip.

"This sucks and you know it." Aye. After the inane anthropomorphism of Halo 2 I lost any interest I'd had in the previously schlocky-but-slick storyline of the Halo series, but if they want to flog that particular cash cow they could at least farm it out to someone with the right sort of aesthetic.

Mind you, District 9's all over and done with now. Boat: sailed.

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