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22 hours ago, Nequests said:

Are we going to do this shit every time an Asian actor is hired? 

 

Well Asians were so well represented in American films in the past, weren't they? To the extent that Asian-Americans had to make their own film recently to prove to Hollywood it made financial sense to cast Asian-Americans in leading roles...

 

The only reason they bother to cast Asians in roles is to appeal to the new gold rush markets. White guys getting cast for other white guy roles is nothing notable, as they are pretty much interchangeable, just put on a accent and most people wouldn't know which country they came from most of the time.

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19 hours ago, RubberJohnny said:

 

mushashi copies all his posts from reddit and they can't stop being racist against China.

 

Didn't expect the doubling down though.

 

Yeah, I thought as much. In fairness to Mushashi, his post is far from the worst I've read on this forum in that regard. It's a racism that's pretty rife within cinema discussion these days, and one that I've lost patience with entirely. I used to enjoy RedLetterMedia's stuff but had to stop watching them due to their tendency to veer into this kind of drivel, blaming Chinese audiences for anything negative, viewing the achievement of Asian actors and directors with suspicion, etc.

 

There's much that's worthy of discussion regarding the impact China is having on cinema, particularly around the influence of the censors. That's an important thing to talk about, not cynical 'he just got hired 'cause he's Asian' bullshit, when the character's fucking surname is of Chinese origin.

 

 

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On 11/04/2019 at 20:17, monkeydog said:

Chen Chang is playing Dr Yeuh. 

 

Just Thufir Hawat to be announced from Paul's mentors.

 

The cast looks great so far.  

 

 

 

I always kinda imagined Dr Yeuh being Asian to be to fair rather being played by Al.

 

The original Dune really had some big names in it?

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12 hours ago, Nequests said:

 

Yeah, I thought as much. In fairness to Mushashi, his post is far from the worst I've read on this forum in that regard. It's a racism that's pretty rife within cinema discussion these days, and one that I've lost patience with entirely. I used to enjoy RedLetterMedia's stuff but had to stop watching them due to their tendency to veer into this kind of drivel, blaming Chinese audiences for anything negative, viewing the achievement of Asian actors and directors with suspicion, etc.

 

There's much that's worthy of discussion regarding the impact China is having on cinema, particularly around the influence of the censors. That's an important thing to talk about, not cynical 'he just got hired 'cause he's Asian' bullshit, when the character's fucking surname is of Chinese origin.

 

 

 

It's absolutely nothing to do with racism. If they wanted to hire somebody Asian to play that character, there are plenty of Asian-Americans or other actors of Asian descent from elsewhere that would have loved a chance at the role but they chose a famous actor from China instead, why is that?

 

The projection from some of the replies on here is :facepalm: (I'm not talking about you, you've been very polite, it's the other usual suspects)

 

Hollywood is all about the bottom line. If they ever manage to break Bollywood's stranglehold on the Indian film market, don't be surprised to see them begin to cast Indians a lot more than they currently do. I'm sure somebody will call that racist when people comment on that hypothetical too.

 

It's he got hired because he's a famous actor from China who is well known to Chinese audiences, not because he's Asian.

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1 hour ago, mushashi said:

 

 

It's absolutely nothing to do with racism. If they wanted to hire somebody Asian to play that character, there are plenty of Asian-Americans or other actors of Asian descent from elsewhere that would have loved a chance at the role but they chose a famous actor from China instead, why is that?

 

The projection from some of the replies on here is :facepalm: (I'm not talking about you, you've been very polite, it's the other usual suspects)

 

Hollywood is all about the bottom line. If they ever manage to break Bollywood's stranglehold on the Indian film market, don't be surprised to see them begin to cast Indians a lot more than they currently do. I'm sure somebody will call that racist when people comment on that hypothetical too.

 

It's he got hired because he's a famous actor from China who is well known to Chinese audiences, not because he's Asian.

 

I hardly think, based on Villeneuve's past films, that that is a fair accusation.

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14 hours ago, mushashi said:

 

 

It's absolutely nothing to do with racism. If they wanted to hire somebody Asian to play that character, there are plenty of Asian-Americans or other actors of Asian descent from elsewhere that would have loved a chance at the role but they chose a famous actor from China instead, why is that?

 

It's got absolutely everything to do with racism, and a whole bunch of deeply racist assumptions. There are, to my knowledge, at least two white, non-native-English-speakers signed up for roles in Dune. Not once have I seen anyone dare suggest they were hired for anything other than their suitability for the role and their talents as actors. Not once did you ask why they didn't hire an American-born actor instead of Stellan Skarsgård, or Javier Bardem, but the fucking MOMENT an Asia-born actor is hired we have people doubting the real motivations for the hiring. It suggest to me a deeply cynical, dismissive attitude towards the talents of Asian actors.

 

Chen Chang is famous in parts of Asia, but not exclusively so. He has a pretty vast list of appearances in films behind him, some of which , heaven forbid, have been popular with western audiences. He's also talented, handsome and suitable for the role.  All actors are hired to some degree based on their popularity, yet you've only felt the need to point that out for this particular actor. 

 

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1 minute ago, Harsin said:

Either that or they’ve really reworked the story and now it’s about evil space socialists who only the Kwisatz Centristerach can oppose.

 

First he must purge CHOAM of the vile scourge of anti-Fremetism.

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