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I guess, but considering how long I'll have to look at his mug during the title screen, I think I can handle the trauma. I'm not a huge fan of the Sonic Rush sprite or character either, and that's possibly my favourite post-Megadrive 2D Sonic game...

Better than Sonic Advance you say? Faint praise indeed...

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NecroMorrius

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Guys, here's the thing. You're waiting for Sonic to be 'good again'. But, as much as it pains me to say it, as much as it kills the child inside of me to admit it, it was always rubbish. The first one was a moderately fun platformer-as-reaction to the infinitely superior Super Mario Bros (which I hated as a child!) Everything since then, EVERYTHING since then, has been utterly gash.

Official games involving Sonic and/or related characters

[edit] For the Sega Mega Drive/Sega Genesis

* Sonic the Hedgehog (W)

* Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (W)

* Knuckles in Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (W)

* Sonic the Hedgehog Spinball (W)

* Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine (NE)

* Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (W)

* Sonic & Knuckles (W)

* Sonic 3D: Flickies' Island/Sonic 3D Blast (NE)

* Sonic Compilation/Sonic Classics 3-in-1 (contains Sonic the Hedgehog, Sonic the Hedgehog 2, and Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine) (EN)

* Crusader of Centy (Sonic appears as a cameo on Anemone Beach) (W)

* Wacky Worlds (Sonic and Tails appear as a cameo) (N)

* Sports Talk Baseball(Sonic appears as a cameo if you hit the ball far enough) (N)

[edit] For Sega Mega-CD/Sega CD

* Sonic the Hedgehog CD (aka Sonic CD) (W)

[edit] For the Sega Meganet Modem

* Sonic Eraser (J)

[edit] For the Sega Master System

* Sonic the Hedgehog (EN)

* Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (E)

* Sonic Chaos (E)

* Sonic the Hedgehog Spinball (E)

* Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine (E)

* Sonic Blast (E)

[edit] For the Sega Game Gear

* Sonic the Hedgehog (W)

* Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (W)

* Sonic Chaos (Sonic & Tails) (W)

* Sonic the Hedgehog Spinball (NE)

* Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine (NE)

* Sonic Drift (J)

* Sonic Triple Trouble (Sonic & Tails 2) (W)

* Sonic Drift 2 (Sonic Drift Racing) (W)

* Tails Adventure (W)

* Sonic 2 In 1 (contains Sonic the Hedgehog 2 and Sonic Spinball (Game Gear version)) (E)

* Sonic Labyrinth (W)

* Tails' Skypatrol (J)

* Sonic Blast (aka G-Sonic) (W)

[edit] For the Sega Pico

* Sonic the Hedgehog's Gameworld (aka Sonic's Gameworld) (JN)

* Tails and the Music Maker (W)

[edit] For the Genesis 32X / Mega Drive 32X / Super 32X

* Knuckles' Chaotix (aka Chaotix) (cameo) (W)

[edit] For the Sega Saturn

* Gale Racer (Appeared as a keychain) (J)

* Sonic Jam (W)

* Sonic R (W)

* Sonic 3D Blast (aka Sonic 3D: Flickies' Island or Sonic 3D Blast: Flickies' Island) (W)

* Bug! Sonic is a cameo in this game and you even get to race him. (W)

* Christmas NiGHTS Into Dreams Sonic appears as an unlockable character. (W)

[edit] For the Dreamcast

* Sonic Adventure (W)

* Sonic Shuffle (W)

* Sonic Adventure 2 (w)

* Sonic the Hedgehog (Sega Smash Pack) (N)

* Shenmue (appears as a toy capsule) (W)

* Sega Gaga (Sonic is a cameo in this game) (J)

[edit] For the VMU

* Chao Adventure (W)

* Chao Adventure 2 (W)

[edit] For the LeapFrog Leapster

* Sonic X (N)

[edit] For the DVD Video Games / PC Videos

* Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog (N)

* Sonic the Hedgehog (N)

* Sonic the Hedgehog: The Movie (N)

* Sonic Underground (N)

* Sonic X (N)

[edit] For the PC

* Sonic the Hedgehog CD (aka Sonic CD) (W)

* Sonic's Schoolhouse (N)

* Sonic & Garfield Pack (N)

* Sonic & Knuckles Collection (a combination of the Sega Genesis games Sonic 3, S&K and S3&K) (W)

* Sonic 3D Blast (a port of the Sega Saturn version) (NE)

* Sega Smash Pack (N)

* Sega Smash Pack 2 (N)

* Sonic Action Pack (N)

* Sega PC Twin Pack (N)

* Sonic the Screen Saver (W)

* Sonic R (W)

* Sega PC Puzzle Pack (W)

* Sonic the Hedgehog (RealArcade) (N)

* Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (RealArcade (N), Sega Smash Pack 2 a.k.a. "SEGA Archives from USA Vol. 3" in Japan)(JN) [1]

* Sonic the Hedgehog Spinball (RealArcade (N), Sega Smash Pack a.k.a. "SEGA Archives from USA Vol. 1" in Japan) (JN) [2]

* Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine (RealArcade (N), Sega Puzzle Pack a.k.a. "SEGA Archives from USA Vol. 2" in Japan) (JN) [3]

* Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (RealArcade) (N)

* Sonic & Knuckles (RealArcade) (N)

* Sonic 3D Blast (RealArcade (port of Sega Genesis version)) (NE)

* Sonic Adventure DX: Director's Cut (W)

* Sonic Heroes (W)

* Sonic Mega Collection Plus (NE)

* Sonic Riders (NE)

* Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing

* Bug! Sonic is a cameo in this game and you even get to race him. (N)

* Sonic PC Collection (E)

[edit] For SNK Neo Geo Pocket Color / Game Boy Color

* Sonic the Hedgehog Pocket Adventure (W)

[edit] For Game Boy Advance

* Sonic Advance (W)

* Sega Smash Pack (N)

* Sonic Advance 2 (W)

* Sonic Pinball Party (W)

* Sonic Battle (W)

* Sonic X Game Boy Advance Video Volume 1 (N)

* Sonic X Game Boy Advance Video Volume 2 (N)

* Sonic Advance 3 (W)

* Sonic the Hedgehog Genesis (N)

[edit] For Nintendo GameCube

* Sonic Adventure 2: Battle (W)

* Sonic the Fighters (W)

* Sonic Mega Collection (W)

* Sonic Adventure DX (W)

* Sonic Heroes (W)

* Shadow the Hedgehog (W)

* Sonic Gems Collection (W)

* Sonic Riders (W)

* Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg (W)

[edit] For PlayStation 2

* Sonic Heroes (W)

* Sonic the Fighters (W)

* Sega Superstars (W)

* Sonic Mega Collection Plus (W)

* Sonic Gems Collection (JE)

* Shadow the Hedgehog (NW)

* Sonic Riders (W)

* Sega Genesis Collection (aka Sega Mega Drive Collection) (W)

* Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity (W)

* Sega Superstars Tennis

* Sonic Unleashed

[edit] For Nintendo DS / Nintendo DSi

* Sonic Rush (W)

* Sonic Rush Adventure (W)

* Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games (W)

* Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood

* Sega Superstars Tennis

* Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games

* Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing

* Sonic Classic Collection

[edit] For Game & Watch

* Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog (N)

[edit] For PlayStation Portable

* Sonic Rivals (NE)

* Sega Genesis Collection (W)

* Sonic Rivals 2

[edit] For Xbox

* Sonic Heroes (W)

* Sonic Mega Collection Plus (W)

* Shadow the Hedgehog (W)

* Sonic Riders (W)

[edit] For Xbox 360

* Sonic the Hedgehog (2006 game) (W)

* Sonic the Hedgehog (Xbox Live Arcade)

* Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (Xbox Live Arcade)

* Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (Xbox Live Arcade)

* Sonic the Hedgehog 4 (Xbox Live Arcade)

* Sega Superstars Tennis

* Sonic Unleashed/Sonic World Adventure

* Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing

[edit] For PlayStation 3

* Sonic the Hedgehog (2006 game) (W)

* Sega Superstars Tennis

* Sonic Unleashed/Sonic World Adventure

* Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing

* Sonic the Hedgehog 4 (Playstation Network)

[edit] For Wii

* Sonic and the Secret Rings (formerly Sonic Wildfire and Hyper Sonic) (W)

* Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games (W)

* Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity

* Sonic the Hedgehog (Virtual Console)

* Sonic Spinball (Virtual Console)

* Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (Virtual Console)

* Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (Virtual Console)

* Sonic the Hedgehog 4 (Wii Ware)

* Sonic 3D (Wii Virtual Console)

* Super Smash Bros. Brawl

* Sega Superstars Tennis

* Sonic Unleashed/Sonic World Adventure

* Sonic and the Black Knight

* Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games

* Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing

[edit] For Nokia N-Gage

* Sonic N (NE)

[edit] For Arcade

* Rad Mobile (A Sonic charm hangs from your car's rear view mirror. This is the Sonic's first appearance in a video game)

* Sonic Heroes

* Waku Waku Sonic Patrol Car (J)

* SegaSonic Cosmo Fighter Galaxy Patrol (J)

* SegaSonic the Hedgehog (J)

* Sonic the Hedgehog AWP (E)

* Sonic the Fighters (aka Sonic Championship) (JN)

* Sonic & Tails Spinner (N)

* CR Sonic (J)

* SegaSonic Popcorn Shop (J)

* Sonic's Space Tours (J)

* UFO Mini: Sega Sonic (J)

* Sonic Mini-Games

[edit] For Tiger Game.com

* Sonic Jam (N)

[edit] For Mobile Phones

* Sonic the Hedgehog (J) - For NTT DoCoMo i-mode 503 / 504

* Sonic the Hedgehog (E) - Pre-loaded on Panasonic VS2 Tri-band GSM cellphone and for some Verizon cellular phones

* Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (J)

* Sonic Casino Poker (J)

* Sonic Kart 3DX (J)

* Sonic Timing of the Train (J)

* SONIKKU GYAMON (J)

* Samba De Amigo (J)

* Eggman Panic (J)

* Flicky (J)

* Sonic Hearts (J)

* Sonic Tennis (J) - For Vodafone and NTT DoCoMo i-mode 503 / 504 / 505 / 900

* Sonic Golf 3D (J) - For NTT DoCoMo i-mode 503 / 504

* Sonic Golf (J)

* Speed (J) - For NTT DoCoMo i-mode 503 / 504

* Speed DX (J) - For Vodafone and NTT DoCoMo i-mode 505 / 900

* Sonic Fishing (J) - For NTT DoCoMo i-mode 503 / 504

* Sonic Billiards (J) - For Vodafone and NTT DoCoMo i-mode 503 / 504

* Sonic Napoleon (J)

* Sonic 7 if all (J)

* Shadow Shoot (J)

* Amy Page One (J)

* Nakayoshi Chao (J) - For NTT DoCoMo i-mode 504

* Sonic Bowling (J) - For NTT DoCoMo i-mode 503 / 504

* Sonic Jump (JN)

* Sonic No Jirai Sagashi Game (J) - For NTT DoCoMo i-mode 503 / 504

* Sonic Racing Shift Up (J) - For NTT DoCoMo i-mode 503 / 504

* Sonic Putter (J) - For NTT DoCoMo i-mode 503 / 504

* Sonic Darts (J) - For NTT DoCoMo i-mode 503 / 504

* Sonic Racing Kart (J) - For NTT DoCoMo i-mode 503 / 504 / 505 / 900

* Sonic Reversi (J) - For NTT DoCoMo i-mode 503 / 504 / 505

* Sonic Reversi Hyper (J)

* Sonic's Millionaire (J)

* Sonic Panel Puzzel (J)

* Tails No Flying Get (J) - NTT DoCoMo i-mode 504 / 505 / 900

* Sonic Cake Hopping (J) - NTT DoCoMo i-mode 503 / 504 / 505 / 900

* Sonic Hopping 2 (J) - NTT DoCoMo i-mode 503 / 504 / 505 / 900

* Sonic Jump 2 (NA)

* Sonic Unleashed (J,E,N)

* Sonic Spinball (E,NA)

* Sonic Rebirth

* Sonic at the Olympic Games

[edit] For iPod

* Sonic the Hedgehog (JN, or in any other country that has the iTunes)

That's a lot of shit.

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I love the Game Gear one very much (Suppose you could also say MS version). The whole game is enjoyable and I enjoy it more than the megadrive version. Don't get me wrong I love green hill zone, but marble zone can piss off.

Sonic 2 gamegear is decent, but stupidly hard. It took many, many weeks to finish this. Stupidly difficult first boss (on the game gear at least) and the wind gliding bit on the second level took a while to get the grips with.

Sonic 2 megadrive was a decent game, and is good fun.

I thought sonic 3 on the megadrive was decent, but i finished the game in a weekend.

Sonic adventure 1 was ok, sonic adventure 2 was good fun for me. Fully completed that game.

Mario->Sonic when coming to quality of games.

I hope sonic 4 is a return to form.

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NecroMorrius

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So why did you bother posting it then?

Um... because the point I was making was that since Sonic 1 there have been an awful lot of shit Sonic games?

Your objection doesn't even make sense. Do you punch scientists in the face every time they provide evidence for their theories?

Or maybe you can't handle the truth, that Sonic is actually shit. :(

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Um... because the point I was making was that since Sonic 1 there have been an awful lot of shit Sonic games?

Your objection doesn't even make sense. Do you punch scientists in the face every time they provide evidence for their theories?

Or maybe you can't handle the truth, that Sonic is actually shit. :(

Are you under the impression that you're the only person who has played the old Sonic games recently and therefore needs to 'inform' everybody else of what they're like? You're not. I've played them last week. They're fantastic. I'd love to play a new one of similar quality. The end.

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Are you under the impression that you're the only person who has played the old Sonic games recently and therefore needs to 'inform' everybody else of what they're like? You're not. I've played them last week. They're fantastic. I'd love to play a new one of similar quality. The end.

Couldn't agree more. The 16-bit era of Sonic was superb and one of his last successes was, in my opinion, Sonic Adventure (Dreamcast). Although the Sonic Rush-series, are pretty good as well, but only different.

I'm having good hopes for Sonic 4. Point made.

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NecroMorrius

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My point was that your "That's a lot of shit" was referring to the rest of your post. It's nowhere near as funny now I've had to explain it. Also, posting a list of games featuring Sonic isn't evidence that he's always been shit you muppet.

It is if all the games are shit. Which I suppose is subjective, some people really a lot of them, but that would make them idiots. 'The good ones', first one aside, weren't even particularly good at the time, we were just young, dumb and impressionable.

Sprite Machine, if you really thought Sonic 2 and 3 were fantastic, you're probably going to love Sonic 4. Good for you. Nevermind that Sega have effectively traded on the waning good will of ever-ageing Sonic fans for over a decade now, just don't stop believin'.

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It is if all the games are shit. Which I suppose is subjective, some people really a lot of them, but that would make them idiots. 'The good ones', first one aside, weren't even particularly good at the time, we were just young, dumb and impressionable.

You're not off to a good start when start insulting people who have a different opinion.

Sprite Machine, if you really thought Sonic 2 and 3 were fantastic, you're probably going to love Sonic 4.

That's presumptuous. I've already said it looks a bit cheap and nasty.

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NecroMorrius

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You're not off to a good start when start insulting people who have a different opinion.

That's presumptuous. I've already said it looks a bit cheap and nasty.

C'mon dude, around 90% of those games can be entirely dismissed as terrible, the rest are up for debate but remain the exclusive domain of ardent Sonic apologists looking for a guilty pleasure.

Yes, it does look cheap and nasty, I can entirely agree with you there.

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For me, Sonic 2 is the best game. I really enjoyed Sonic 3&K and I think it's very close to call indeed; especially bringing music into account.

Sonic 1 has dated the most though. Greenhill zone is basically the best looking one and the whole game in general is a little bland. I never got it though (until recently (5 years ago) as Sonic 2 came with my Megadrive and it was my first game.

I thought Sonic CD was terrible. It felt so thrown together and unfinished.

I agree with this in part; it feels like Sonic 2 in debug mode gone crazy.

EDIT: In keeping with my forum handle, Sonic Shuffle is rubbish.

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I thought Sonic CD was terrible. It felt so thrown together and unfinished.

It certainly wasn't perfect but I thought it was a step in the right direction of where Sonic should be going. Atmospherically it was brilliant and it was experimental gameplay wise without changing the core platforming. The time thing wasn't implemented as well as it could have been but it showed a little bit of thinking that wasn't the usual add more charecters and stuff. I would love to have seen a sequal where they could have fleshed out time travel a bit and maybe made it easier to to change time.

I think I like the concept more than the finished game but I get the feeling that so much stuff was left out due to time constaints and such that if a sequal would come out (by the original staff) it would probably be greatest platformer created.

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finished Sonic 3 and Knuckles finally last night,

noticed my save file was just over 3 hours to play through the whole thing. All round good but so many levels are way too long and frustrating. It may be nostalgia but Sonic 2 was a much better game with good design and more stand out moments. I prefer the visual style of the first two over 3 and Knuckles too.

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I grow less fond of Sonic 2 as more time passes. I think the visual style is a little too pixelly, a bit overly mechanical and thrown together. It's also quite buggy. It's a tough call, though; it used to be my favourite. I've probably played it so many times that it's just become a bit predictable. I almost cringe when I hear the music to Emerald Hill Zone because I must have started the game about a hundred times.

I still think it's got the best two-player mode, though.

There's a topic buried somewhere in the Retro folder about Sonic Megamix, a remixed version of Sonic 1 with loads of new graphics and characters thrown into it. Requires a MegaCD emulator/bios to run it, but it's simple enough to find. It's not bad, actually, particularly if you know the Sonic games inside out and want something new. Although it's sadly unfinished.

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I was playing Sonic 2 earlier today (no doubt as a result of this thread reminding me how awesome Sonic is) and I was amazed how difficult it was - couldn't get an emerald past the third one (not my fault admittedly, bloody Tails!) and the end boss was such a complete gimp (slightly mis-time your jump and you run into his spikey fingers) that I gave up in frustration.

Still a tops game though! I really need more practise.

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The better 2D Sonic games have always had a nice balance of careful platform negotiation and relentlessly quick sections, and tend not to bugger things up by launching you from a spring-enhanced boost into a spike trap, or by having the whole thing run on rails as you go from teleports to loops to springs and all sorts. Sonic 1 on the Megadrive arguably found a better balance than 2/3/S&K - you had stages such as Marble Zone and Labyrinth Zone that discouraged rushing through everything, but there were still moments where you could build up speed and enjoy moving really fast and getting loads of rings. I know that the speed is what defines Sonic's character, but it shouldn't be an excuse to make levels that run on autopilot...

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