Losing it

[TheSlugFormerlyKnownAsNap]

My gaming hours have gone down considerably over the last years due to a combination of spreading time across other interests, married life with children, work, etc. Still, I consider myself to be pretty much 'in the know'. I track most major releases, play the games I find interesting (although too often not to completion) and follow what's going on. Still, confronted with posts like this, I sometimes wonder if it isn't time to just reinvent myself as casual and keep to EA releases and Wii Fit or something. Is it just me or is this completely uncomprehensible lingo?

Modern Warfare 2:

I prestiged for the first time, after about 3.5 days. I only recently got into Domination for levelling up, had been almost exclusively playing mTDM and FFA before that. The chicken sound made me do it! I haven't played a game since, it was the last thing I did last night.

I also noticed my first set of Nuke boosters and went on the hunt. Another great reason to use Ninja! I spoiled their antics three times in the match on Estate and got a few tactical insertion kills to boot. They still won the round overall but no nuke! Ultra satisfying.

I don't have sound in work but what's going on with that shotgun across the map video? Is it a hack or is he using a specific set of perks/attachments?

Bayonetta:

- The powerful technique known as dodge offset lets you perform a partial string, interrupt it with up to four dodges, then resume it where you left off. And you can do this once for every attack in a string except the first (so if you have a six-hit string, that's five potential dodge offsets). The panther transformation and taunting also bear this offset effect, the former being especially useful because you can remain in panther form indefinitely. As if delaying attacks weren't useful enough, you can also use dodges or the panther to skip moves in strings. So if you want to do the powerful Wicked Weave finisher of PKP without the first two hits, you input P then immediately dodge, K then immediately dodge, P. This will produce two evasive flips that smoothly transition into a Wicked Weave.

[Kropotkin]

No, you're fine. I too have read both of these passages and have deemed them to be gibberish. I can get the gist of what they are talking about, but agree that these are the ramblings of folk who have spent a great deal of time playing these games to the point where they have invented their own terminology for how to play it. Scary really.

As for turning yourself into a 'casual gamer' and limiting yourself to 30 minute bouts of Wii-fit, I really wouldn't fret about such a possibility. You're still a gamer at heart, you know what MW2 and Bayonetta are at the very least, and that makes you a cut above those who think playing Mine Sweeper during their lunch break at work is the extent of their video game exposure.

[Danster]

Welcome to the old-core.

[Naysonymous]

To be honest, if you play a game then you pick up the lingo. If you dont, you dont. It's nothing to do with age or lifestyle, is it?

[Vimster]

Posts like that make me feel like I'm not trying hard enough, although I then realise people who play games all day every day do nothing else (other than post about it). It doesn't mean you've lost it.

I play MW2 maybe an hour a week (if that). I'm level 7 on the PC one, I think, and doubt I'll ever prestiege. There's just too much other stuff to be doing for me to sit there for 8 hours a day straight playing the same game. It's like repeating the same word over and over, it loses its original meaning and becomes something else. That's fine and all but each to their own.

[footle]

One difference between the two is that to get to the point where you've heard of Nuke Boosting takes a bit longer than the 20+ hours I've spent on CoD:MW2 multiplayer this month.

To get to the point where you've heard of Dodge Offsetting in Bayonetta - well, it's mentioned explicitly as a technique in one of the pick up books you run across. All of the terms in that quote are included in the game.

[Willei]

The Bayonetta thing is very straight forward if you've played the game, I've only played the demo and I have no problems with that explantion. Same deal with the MW2 passage, there's just more nomenclature in there. I don't have any blanks to fill in and I've played about three hours multiplayer in that game.

[TheSlugFormerlyKnownAsNap]

Welcome to the old-core.

Oh yeah, the old-core I remember that. I can live with that I suppose

[Harsin]

I think I'm on my way, if not already part of this demographic. Starting to get too old for the hardcore consoles but not yet in a nursing home and in the Wii demographic.

[Cyhwuhx]

You should try the Demon's Souls thread. It's just as steep a learning curve to start reading that as it is to play the game.

[TheSlugFormerlyKnownAsNap]

Yes, there were a couple of times that I was about to order Demon's Souls, but reading that thread (and watching the videos) put me right off. I'm absolutely 99% positive that it's one of those game I'll just not 'get'.

[smackie]

Oh yeah, the old-core I remember that. I can live with that I suppose

Yup, you can add me to that group. I've been an avid gamer since the Philips Videopac days, but now that i have a wife and a baby, i'm limited to a half hour here and there of Beatles Rock Band, Outrun Online Arcade and WiiFit

[John0]

I think games just require such a massive investment of time these days, or at least to play them to the depth and levels that we (note: massive sweeping generalisation about all our ages) grew up with and are used to. I don't even really contemplate buying things like MW2, simply because I know I'll only be able to invest a few hours a week max (quite often would be 0 hours), and there doesn't seem much point.

Like when I invested 5-6 hours in GTA:IV and precisely nothing interesting happened at all. Just didn't seem worth it. I presume it's a good game once you get really into it... but for me I couldn't get past the fact that it didn't give me that immediate rush of excitement and entertainment that, say, for example, GTA I did all those years ago...

Been enjoying a few DS games over the past year or so though, so the gamer in me hasn't completely died. Also NSMB:Wii got a fair few hours, but I felt like I was progressing and achieving all the way through...

[Pistol]

I think games are getting massively complicated these days.

I got a 360 before Christmas, and when I saw my brother playing MW2 I thought "Wow, that looks like a cool shooty game - I'll stick that on my pressie list!". Then I started reading the threads on the net about it. That was a mistake really. I am now so wholly confused about how the game works, and scared of getting my ass handed to me by people who know the game inside and out and have miles better guns and abilities than me, that I've played it about twice.

(I probably would have gritted my teeth and dived in regardless, but I'm enjoying L4D2 far too much.)

[hoot]

The games are only as complicated as you want them to be. I've completed Bayonetta on normal with never really getting past the button mashing stage, but I had fun, I'm no where near mastering it but then how many games could you honestly say you have?. As for MW2, the basics really couldn't be any simpler, everything else falls in to place over time and it is actually noob friendly in the way it teases out the new equipment / perks etc.

[Broker]

The Modern Warfare 2 one says "I'm a lonely, lonely man who spends my time desperately trying to feel important and macho by relentlessly playing shooting games olnine before logging off, beating my cock into oblivion and then crying into my jizz soaked fist."

The Bayonetta one says "I like this game because it's like playing as Eddie in Tekken, it requires no skill whatsoever but looks really flashy."

[Campfire_Burning]

You know on a synth, yeah? When your preset fails to sparkle in the mid-high frequencies, so you patch the modwheel to the resonance and the cut-off and slowly open the filter over a few bars to add some movement to the sound, and then you tweak the envelope on just the second oscillator - the saw waveform, not the square - so it has a fast attack but a slow decay. Then you add reverb and delay, and mung the whole thing through a distortion unit that adds a load of pink noise, makes it sound a little Aphex, but it still fails to pop so you add an evolving pad as a second layer with a long sample and hold LFO on the amp, and tweak the semitone panpot to move it up a fifth. Then you duplicate the first layer but de-tune both layers to phatten it up a bit, add a little chorus, and then a final fourth layer, a square wave with smooth amp and filter envelopes a few octaves down for sub-bass.

Yeah?

[Rorsach]

You know on a synth, yeah? When your preset fails to sparkle in the mid-high frequencies, so you patch the modwheel to the resonance and the cut-off and slowly open the filter over a few bars to add some movement to the sound, and then you tweak the envelope on just the second oscillator - the saw waveform, not the square - so it has a fast attack but a slow decay. Then you add reverb and delay, and mung the whole thing through a distortion unit that adds a load of pink noise, makes it sound a little Aphex, but it still fails to pop so you add an evolving pad as a second layer with a long sample and hold LFO on the amp, and tweak the semitone panpot to move it up a fifth. Then you duplicate the first layer but de-tune both layers to phatten it up a bit, add a little chorus, and then a final fourth layer, a square wave with smooth amp and filter envelopes a few octaves down for sub-bass.

Yeah?

[TheSlugFormerlyKnownAsNap]

You know on a synth, yeah? When your preset fails to sparkle in the mid-high frequencies, so you patch the modwheel to the resonance and the cut-off and slowly open the filter over a few bars to add some movement to the sound, and then you tweak the envelope on just the second oscillator - the saw waveform, not the square - so it has a fast attack but a slow decay. Then you add reverb and delay, and mung the whole thing through a distortion unit that adds a load of pink noise, makes it sound a little Aphex, but it still fails to pop so you add an evolving pad as a second layer with a long sample and hold LFO on the amp, and tweak the semitone panpot to move it up a fifth. Then you duplicate the first layer but de-tune both layers to phatten it up a bit, add a little chorus, and then a final fourth layer, a square wave with smooth amp and filter envelopes a few octaves down for sub-bass.

Yeah?

No. Never put resonance AND cutoff on your modwheel, always control them separately.

[Sergeant Squid]

Christ if you find that hard to follow, don't ever play World of Warcraft!

L4M DPS ICC, link ach + GS

Ding!

Grats!

QQ Moar Nub!

It really is like a whole new retarded language!

[DarhkFox]

the MW2 stuff made sense, but only because i proper hardcored it for a month.

Past 2 weeks have seen about 1 hour game playing time. o.0

and half of that was sitting in a lobby with some mates trying to get a match running (we managed 2 proper games in that time.. awful).

Havent had a chance to play anything else really. Oh besides a bit of smash bros brawl round a mates for an hour.

[Joyrex-J9]

Needs a 4 pole lowpass filter, plus some VCO. If you want to go all out I'd whack it through a ringmod and a bit of glassy portamento slide

[deerokus]

I think it's impossible to play MW2 multiplayer and not understand what perks or attachments are, or the names of some, and that's all that post really discusses that isn't immediately obvious. It's just cause you've not played it I suppose.

it's not a complicated game.

[Kingpin]

I posted the modern warfare one originally. To be honest, the lingo comes from reading about it here. It's also the only game I've played since November so it's not hard to pick up the terms and abbreviations in that time. Why would I bother to explain everything in the most basic terms? It's a videogames forum after all.

The original post is "I haven't played these games, I don't understand what they're talking about" - No shit? I'm sure I wouldn't know what a koopa is if I never played Mario.

I also wouldn't consider myself as into games as the majority of posters here and my time in MW2 pales in comparison to people who have spent 8+ days at it since launch. That said, it's a bit rich for other posters to be having a go at people playing games on a GAMING FORUM when I've seen other people here post about their NES collection, or Companion Cube soft toys, not to mention the Warcraft crowd.

[Sergeant Squid]

Who is having a go at anyone? And what do you mean by 'Warcraft crowd'?

[Qazimod]

I've never played Modern Warfare online so I don't follow the top one. The Bayonetta one was a bit easier to follow.

With regards to the general topic, I don't like to think that I'm "losing it"...besides, I think it's more to do with what you play rather than what you know. I don't have a Wii, own about 7 DS games and mostly enjoy reflex-based gaming; scrolling shooters, beat 'em ups, FPSes. Granted I can be a bit rubbish at the games (as anyone who sees my collection of stone medals on Bayonetta will discover), but I still prefer them to more pedestrian genres.

Mind you, I'll be pretty miffed when I'm much older and can't complete the likes of Halo 7 and Rock Band 4 on the easiest settings...

[Kingpin]

Who is having a go at anyone? And what do you mean by 'Warcraft crowd'?

Didn't mean anything derogatory about Warcraft, never been into RPGs but it's a time sink isn't it? The point was that this is a gaming forum, if you can't get into and discuss a game in depth, why bother? Just read the reviews in Maxim or something.

The original poster wasn't having a go, I didn't mean to give that impression, a few of the subsequent posts were a bit rich I thought.

[Vimster]

The Modern Warfare 2 one says "I'm a lonely, lonely man who spends my time desperately trying to feel important and macho by relentlessly playing shooting games olnine before logging off, beating my cock into oblivion and then crying into my jizz soaked fist."

I was choking on my chips laughing at that one. Fair play to whoever posted it originally but generally-speaking it just made me LOL.

[mechamonkey]

Having problems with them like all the funchions parctirily the time delay for route setting but now have 3 of them of which only 1 will drive "SEEP" motors properly. All 3 drive "PECO" green coil motors fine. for those of you electronically minded there is a big probably 1 or 5 watt resistor between one of the DC tracks and somewhere else ( havn't unscrewed a board yet to check) this is wildley differant values between the board that works properly and the one's that don't. Any ideas from anyone, spoke to Gaugemaster and they didn't even know it had changed.

Random quote from a googled Model train Forum. I don't understand that either (massive spelling mistakes aside), am I getting old?

[smackie]

The Modern Warfare 2 one says "I'm a lonely, lonely man who spends my time desperately trying to feel important and macho by relentlessly playing shooting games olnine before logging off, beating my cock into oblivion and then crying into my jizz soaked fist."

I reckon there are 3 people in close proximity to me in my office right now who fit into that category

All of them over 40