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toythatkills

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But now it's not NEW SEALED R@RE.

In fairness, it was for a gift, surely people can see the problem really?

If I was giving someone a game as a present I'd want it to be sealed too, so it doesn't look like 1) you bought it for yourself and didn't like it so are fobbing it off on them or 2) cracked it open for a quick play before handing it over.

People that collect sealed games are different of course, the massive weirdos.

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squirtle

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In fairness, it was for a gift, surely people can see the problem really?

If I was giving someone a game as a present I'd want it to be sealed too, so it doesn't look like 1) you bought it for yourself and didn't like it so are fobbing it off on them or 2) cracked it open for a quick play before handing it over.

People that collect sealed games are different of course, the massive weirdos.

Sorry, but no, I don't see the problem.

If the disk and box are in pristine condition, then there's no issue here.

Some people are far too precious about stuff.

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DjSatansfur3h

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In fairness, it was for a gift, surely people can see the problem really?

If I was giving someone a game as a present I'd want it to be sealed too, so it doesn't look like 1) you bought it for yourself and didn't like it so are fobbing it off on them or 2) cracked it open for a quick play before handing it over.

People that collect sealed games are different of course, the massive weirdos.

Not really. Unless of course you were going to try and return said sealed game at some place you didnt actually buy it from...

...But that'd be another matter wouldnt it?

NTSC-UK is hardly a resources worth going off either. A lot of people on there are either collectors, or anally retentive wankpots.

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In fairness, it was for a gift, surely people can see the problem really?

If I was giving someone a game as a present I'd want it to be sealed too, so it doesn't look like 1) you bought it for yourself and didn't like it so are fobbing it off on them or 2) cracked it open for a quick play before handing it over.

People that collect sealed games are different of course, the massive weirdos.

Then again it's always best to check that said game does work before you give it to someone.

Never had a problem with ShopTo even returned a copy of MW2 I'd got from Sainsburys to get a refund on the one I had from them with no problem.

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The latest link of evidence of ShopTo being rubbish is a bit silly. The game didn't show - that's unfortunate, but it's also not necessarily their fault. Plus it was the LE so it would've been sent by courier, the guy moaning about working for Royal Mail and all that is inconsequential. Waiting 3 days before sending out another is just their policy - one we agree to whenever we order. Three days is a lot kinder than most places, anyway - who might wait until the postal service can officially declare it lost before doing anything...

Their email/text service died around the time of FFXIII release, it's true. But hey I'm not going to moan about that - my account information got updated so I knew it had been sent, and the thing arrived a day before release date.

I could moan about the fact that Game took a week to deliver my Darksiders which I pre-ordered, or the fact that they sucked me in with an EXCLUSIVE! in-game Weapon that was actually just a code anybody and their dog could use, but I won't, because I recognise that shit happens and one bad experience doesn't make them useless.

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Dimahoo

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Its the thought that counts, not if its brand new.

Bloody hell....the games not that old, and if he's that worried, show him the receipt so he can change it. He probably will anyway by the sounds of it.

If my mate asked me if it was second hand i'd tell him straight - fucking right it is ya' cunt.

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NecroMorrius

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I can just imagine it now...

"Here's your present Jimmy, I had to work double shifts down the mine to afford it!"

"Gee whiz thanks Dad!"

*Opens present*

"DAD YOU CUNT! WHERE'S MY 48 HOUR LIVE GOLD TRIAL CODE!"

"But..."

"AND THE FUCKING DISC HAS A FINGERPRINT ON IT! TAKE IT AWAY!"

All of you with various complaints, why not try buying from your local independent if you have one? Chances are once they recognise you they'll knock a few quid off anyway. Mine breaks street dates and matches online prices for me wherever he can, and he lets me nick posters and promo stuff too.

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sweet_angel

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In fairness, it was for a gift, surely people can see the problem really?

If I was giving someone a game as a present I'd want it to be sealed too, so it doesn't look like 1) you bought it for yourself and didn't like it so are fobbing it off on them or 2) cracked it open for a quick play before handing it over.

People that collect sealed games are different of course, the massive weirdos.

I could understand where the OP is coming from. Without the seal, the person receiving the gift could believe it's second hand.

But then I would have got them a better gift than Dante Inferno. Average game.

I would like to thank the above for their sound reasoning. It's not a question that it's for some private sealed collection to sell in the future, it's about giving a gift that is unsealed and thus giving a bad impression. I would have no problem with the store if in their description they said the game was unsealed but they didn't so they are misleading their customers. If they had I wouldn't of brought it and there wouldn't be a problem.

As far as shopto service I am happy to hear they have happy customers that comes to the stores defense, however that is not my case. I am not happy when I call up and the help I get is being told "they are all unsealed because we got them that way from EA" ( I suppose he meant EA distributor)

a: They don't even see the stock they have in the store it's an automated warehouse (see video at shopto website) so how could the guy know!

b: I haven't seen them unsealed anywhere else.

Clearly, the guy is lying because he didn't go down to the warehouse and look at all the copies he has and if by any chance the EA distributor said they are all unsealed they should of stated this on the website since they had the information beforehand.

It is simply a question of good customer service, there is no need for people to get too excited about this. I will appraise the store depending on the service I receive both on their website and when calling that is all.

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Dimahoo

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Look Sweet angel its like this....either you get no shrinkwrap and pay MASSIVELY LESS THEN A SHOP.

Or you want shrinkwrap and pay...i dunno...10-15 quid more on a brand new game.

EA probably know who shopto are and send them out that way knowing that they send them out in Jiffys or something anyway.

What are death verisons anyway?

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sweet_angel

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Look Sweet angel its like this....either you get no shrinkwrap and pay MASSIVELY LESS THEN A SHOP.

Or you want shrinkwrap and pay...i dunno...10-15 quid more on a brand new game.

EA probably know who shopto are and send them out that way knowing that they send them out in Jiffys or something anyway.

What are death verisons anyway?

Listen or should I say read carefully, it's not a question of money I just would of liked to have been informed beforehand that the game was unsealed. I went for shopto because they have next day delivery and I needed it for Friday. If there website would of said unsealed, no problem I go elsewhere and purchase the item for a couple of quid more it's 28 in simplygames.

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moosegrinder

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I've never understood this sealed mentality. If the disk is mint, and the instructions are mint, and the case is mint, it doesn't matter unless you're an OCD nutcase. And as some have mentioned, not all games come sealed. EA ones do, but neither here nor there really.

They are under no obligation to tell you whether they're sealed or not.

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I would like to thank the above for their sound reasoning. It's not a question that it's for some private sealed collection to sell in the future, it's about giving a gift that is unsealed and thus giving a bad impression. I would have no problem with the store if in their description they said the game was unsealed but they didn't so they are misleading their customers. If they had I wouldn't of brought it and there wouldn't be a problem.

As far as shopto service I am happy to hear they have happy customers that comes to the stores defense, however that is not my case. I am not happy when I call up and the help I get is being told "they are all unsealed because we got them that way from EA" ( I suppose he meant EA distributor)

I understand it - I even like getting a shiny new sealed game, but the reality of it is, in the vast majority of cases unless you are ordering online you WILL get an unsealed game. The major UK games retailer frequently provides unsealed games because they put the discs behind the counter - the exceptions are those games that are brand new and in the glass display case.

If the person you are giving this to is a frequent gamer they should be aware of the above, too.

a: They don't even see the stock they have in the store it's an automated warehouse (see video at shopto website) so how could the guy know!

b: I haven't seen them unsealed anywhere else.

Clearly, the guy is lying because he didn't go down to the warehouse and look at all the copies he has and if by any chance the EA distributor said they are all unsealed they should of stated this on the website since they had the information beforehand.

It is simply a question of good customer service, there is no need for people to get too excited about this. I will appraise the store depending on the service I receive both on their website and when calling that is all.

You have a valid point, but you've also opted to bring in other "problems" that people have had (like FFXIII not arriving on time, or their text messages not working on one occasion) in order to paint a wider 'bad' picture of an online retailer that is for the most part very highly regarded. Of course people will end up defending them.

You don't know the guy was lying, either. Perhaps he has been lied to - you don't know. He may well have given you all of the information he had; whether it's the truth or not is anybody's guess, he may not even know himself. There may have been a note on the system, they may have had other complaints etc. I very much doubt it's pre-owned, though.

I'd also really like to know where you buy your games if they never have unsealed games! I usually find some supermarkets will have sealed copies, again behind the desk, but they're able to do it because of limited stock. Game certainly only have a few that will be sealed, ditto Gamestation. HMV I'm not sure on these days. Argos are probably sealed, but again, limited stock, and you wouldn't really be able to 'see' their selection.

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NecroMorrius

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Listen or should I say read carefully, it's not a question of money I just would of liked to have been informed beforehand that the game was unsealed. I went for shopto because they have next day delivery and I needed it for Friday. If there website would of said unsealed, no problem I go elsewhere and purchase the item for a couple of quid more it's 28 in simplygames.

Actually, a fair number of games go out unsealed now, on all platforms. On 360 you get a sticker over the opening to see whether it's been opened or not. You get no such luck on PS3 most of the time. It's probably as much to do with the distributor as anything else I expect.

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masterhand

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How did people that make a fuss about sealed product ever buy anything in the past? VHS, CD's or magazines* they were never sealed. The mentalist thinking that the person your giving a gift to will think you might have used it? Your the one with the problem that thinks that the gift receiver would even think like that.

*SeanR: Edgeinabag.jpg

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Pochacco

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Let's analyse this:

1. You got it cheaper

2. You got it in time

3. You got the game you ordered

4. It wasn't sealed but nor was it damaged in any way

5. You ordered the once and you throw a strop vowing never to use them again because of what neogaf or ntsc-uk had to say

6. You complain to ShopTo and then you complain on here

7. No one really sympathsies with you

Apart from the one detail of it not being sealed, how hung up do you think the person you bought it for will be? They don't know where you bought it and you could have easily got it from HMV or Gamestation where the majority of games aren't sealed. They're hardly going to give you the beady eye and cry now are they?

Get over it!

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jiroczech

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In the interest of fairness we should post the following threads:

Dante's Inferno at GAME: Don't order from them because they're cunts

Dante's Inferno at Zavvi: Don't buy it, they're cheap but they're unreliable - fuck knows when you'll actually get it

Dante's Inferno at HMV: Don't buy it cos they've got a dog in their logo

Dante's Inferno: Don't buy it, it's rubbish

etc.

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CurryKitten

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Just to backup the idea of "that's how they come from EA" or whoever. Yonks ago I ordered the original BioShock from ShopTo, when I got it, it was sealed, but looked like it had been resealed using something in DCM's post. The box also had marks that looked like it had offer stickers on it before. Also the disc was a bit bashed in.

When I spoke to ShopTo they had a look and found that the whole lot of their BioShocks were like that. So my conslusion is that they'd gone out to a retailer who had put all the disks in a drawer, put price stickers on the boxes and put them on the shelves. When they didn't sell, they went back to the distributer, who re-sealed them and flogged them onto ShopTo cheap.

Not a particular problem as they were happy to refund me for the game and postage (I wouldn't have had a problem if the disk wasn't scratched up)

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