Smaller "Slim" 360 - Now official

[Alex W.]

The Not Too Distant Future.

HD-DVD wins the format wars. The PS3 is on the way out. Xbox Live rules the world with its hundred-million-selling Xbox 360 Slim. Kaz Hirai, leader of the resistance, ushers in the Year of PlayStation with PlayStation Move. The network is smashed. In a last, desperate gambit, Xbox Live sends 1000 black Xbox 360 Slim consoles back in time to kill Kaz Hirai and prevent the Year of PlayStation before it can ever begin.

2004.

The Xbox 360 Slims arrive too early and malfunction due to chronotron overload. Microsoft rescues the units and places them in storage, reverse-engineering their technology to create the Xbox 360, and their design to create the Xbox 360 HD-DVD drive.

2010. Now.

Chronometric interference causes a helvetica paradox, and the Xbox 360 Slim begins wiping out its own future. Xboxes everywhere RROD. HD-DVD proves unpopular. The Year of PlayStation begins. The Xbox 360 Slim is never built.

[son_of_helvetica]

Chronometric interference causes a helvetica paradox, and the Xbox 360 Slim begins wiping out its own future. Xboxes everywhere RROD. HD-DVD proves unpopular. The Year of PlayStation begins. The Xbox 360 Slim is never built.

Don't you mean the helvetica scenario?

[Alex W.]

No, the helvetica paradox is to do with chroniton particles. Not intelligent calcium.

[JohnC]

son of helvetica doesn't know his own parents

[Alex W.]

son of helvetica is his own parents.

[bradigor]

Is the son of Son of Helvetica called Helvitica Neue?

[Greeny]

If they made the 360 reliable then i would buy one again. I've had a PS3 for a few years now and wouldn't buy anything else next gen. I owned one closer to launch and sold it right after it RROD'd but as a whole liked it, it's a great piece of kit, i just like playing games too much to own a time bomb like that.

[Hello Goaty ♥]

If they made the 360 reliable then i would buy one again. I've had a PS3 for a few years now and wouldn't buy anything else next gen. I owned one closer to launch and sold it right after it RROD'd but as a whole liked it, it's a great piece of kit, i just like playing games too much to own a time bomb like that.

[Hello Goaty ♥]

ALSO:

"It is far more likely that we will see a slim version of the Xbox 360 with a 250 GB hard drive"

Not unless they change the design of the Hard Drive you wont!

[b00dles]

That pic is clearly a fake though, it would never be that slim with the existing HDD but it seems to suggest it's the same thing.

I think the whole USB support thing will be involved and it might not even have a slot for the old HDD. Which may just be completely crazy but you never know, they could do a weird expansion thing.

It will more likely be shorter, from those motherboard pics, rather than slimmer. 360 Short doesn't quite have the same ring to it though...

[Hello Goaty ♥]

That pic is clearly a fake though,

..Its not even a mock up, silly

or was that a beard

[therealjohnpeat]

If they made the 360 reliable then i would buy one again. I've had a PS3 for a few years now and wouldn't buy anything else next gen. I owned one closer to launch and sold it right after it RROD'd but as a whole liked it, it's a great piece of kit, i just like playing games too much to own a time bomb like that.

At several points it's been possible to own TWO 360s for the price of a PS3 and the odds of 2 machines being dead at the same time are tiny - so your argument is invalid.

[Hello Goaty ♥]

.. Then there's the games. Thats a can of worms in itself.

but we must stop this nonsense!

rejoice the S-Box 360

[SeanR]

That pic is clearly a fake though, it would never be that slim with the existing HDD but it seems to suggest it's the same thing.

ohmigod! It's teh real!

[Hello Goaty ♥]

This is probably more like it:

[b00dles]

Uh, yeah... it was a beard... (Quick not paying any attention posts FTW.)

No curve though? Heathens!

[mushashi]

Pachter's at it again I see

Will be launching alongside the WiiHD in time for Xmas?

[Greeny]

At several points it's been possible to own TWO 360s for the price of a PS3 and the odds of 2 machines being dead at the same time are tiny - so your argument is invalid.

excellent...and why would i want two of the same console when i could have one that works? I can afford one console per generation (one at a time at least), i don't have the cash to throw into multiple consoles, even if i could buy two 360s for one PS3 you won't find me or anyone else in a games shop justifying console purchases like that.

the 360 is broken. If they fix it with this slim myself and many others will get one i imagine.

[Sprite Machine]

At several points it's been possible to own TWO 360s for the price of a PS3 and the odds of 2 machines being dead at the same time are tiny - so your argument is invalid.

You've assumed his reason is based on being without a working console rather than dealing with the hassle of getting it fixed/replaced. No-one wants to do that. His argument isn't invalid. Yours is rather tenuous.

[Uzi]

On the subject of reliability I fear more for my older PS3 unit (I've been getting signs that my unit has been overheating for ages now and I worry about getting the YLOD) from early 2008 than my jasper 360 from late 09. It seems older units in a consoles life are the most risky. So no I won't be upgrading the elite as the jasper units are known to be perfectly reliabe bar the standard failure rate of non fucked up consoles (fucked up being 360 pre jasper). If I had an earlier 360 though, I would definately be rid of it for a new model though.

I said in the other thread, on the insides the 360 is different enough now for lower heat, power and considerably less noise and much much more reliable- but on the outside people still associate it with the the noisy- certain to die units from earlier in its life. It needs the slim design just to convince people of the newer insides- even though the current ones are perfectly fine.

[MK-1601]

At several points it's been possible to own TWO 360s for the price of a PS3 and the odds of 2 machines being dead at the same time are tiny - so your argument is invalid.

The worst part is it's hard to tell if you're joking.

[Uzi]

The worst part is it's hard to tell if you're joking.

He's not. Thats the trjp for you

[daPing]

To be honest I don't care two hoots for a slim 360, I want a QUIET 360. I don't use mine any more because the PS3 is practically silent in comparison.

So come on M$ - stop messing around and make a console that feels like a solid piece of kit that can be seen but not heard and I'll buy another one tomorrow.

[Hello Goaty ♥]

I've never got the "silent console" argument. Even the Dreamcast transmitted a little whirrr' from its fan.

Besides, most of the noise comes from from the super fast DVD drive taking off, and not the console.

I always play cames at a high volume which drowns any of this so called noise out anyway.

Such a Weak WEAK argument.

[Hello Goaty ♥]

For me, its the games and the experience of playing them which counts. The 360 and its community are right for me.

the PS3 community members are like the Softies from The Beano. The 360 is the Bash Street Kids!

[Hello Goaty ♥]

the PS3 community members are like the Softies from The Beano. The 360 is the Bash Street Kids!

Must be true, as Google caters for it

[mushashi]

To be honest I don't care two hoots for a slim 360, I want a QUIET 360. I don't use mine any more because the PS3 is practically silent in comparison.

So come on M$ - stop messing around and make a console that feels like a solid piece of kit that can be seen but not heard and I'll buy another one tomorrow.

There used to be an article on the Microsoft site from the engineer who designed the case cooling (not sure if it's still there) but he mentioned that the reason they used smaller more noisy fans was because of the insistence that the form factor had to be the way it was, otherwise, he could of put some larger, but quieter fans in.

[Sprite Machine]

Such a Weak WEAK argument.

Who's arguing? The console is too loud for some people. This isn't an argument; it's a fact.

[Uzi]

I've never got the "silent console" argument. Even the Dreamcast transmitted a little whirrr' from its fan.

Besides, most of the noise comes from from the super fast DVD drive taking off, and not the console.

I always play cames at a high volume which drowns any of this so called noise out anyway.

Such a Weak WEAK argument.

It is not a weak argument. Noise bothers some people, especially the stupidly excessive noise from earlier 360's running games off the disc. I especially notice as now as my PS3 fans hit 100% after about 20 mins of play and it shows the difference between a quiet console (the PS3 fans before they go mental) and a loud one in sharp contrast when playing the same game. Demon souls used to somewhat lose it's atmosphere when the fans went mental!

Luckily the consoles on the shelves today are pretty good noise wise. Current 360's with games installed to the hard drive are pretty quiet and the PS3 as always (apart from some earlier models) are lovely and quiet- even with games running off the disc.

[moosegrinder]

I've never got the "silent console" argument. Even the Dreamcast transmitted a little whirrr' from its fan.

Besides, most of the noise comes from from the super fast DVD drive taking off, and not the console.

I always play cames at a high volume which drowns any of this so called noise out anyway.

Such a Weak WEAK argument.

The 360 is like a fucking jet engine, it's horrendous. Installing games to quicken loading times isn't the primary reason to do it.