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Never played the predecessor, but I enjoyed my first night with this yesterday. I was worried that the trash mobs would be evil, but playing as a nippy thief you seem to be able to spam R1 at them and they don't get any hits in. I'm sure it'll get harder later on, and it was already getting tricky when there were multiple mobs to deal with. I did find myself running away quite a lot.

It all looks a bit ropey during the introduction, aside from the first boss thing you meet. But once you get out into the proper world it seems to look a lot nicer. I'm really enjoying the exploring side of it. I got my arse handed to me by a fat thing on a bridge, and then called it a night. Around level 14, I think, although not really sure I should have been spending all of my souls on levelling up, as it meant I couldn't buy anything from the first trader guy I met. I was in human form when I saved and switched off though, so that's a promising start for tonight's action.

So far so good. I died a few* times.

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Uh... even though Demon's Souls' joyless masochism didn't find favour with me in the end, I find myself gripped by the enthusiasm in this thread and have one foot out the door right now.

Quick asinine question: Is there any discernible difference between versions?

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Uh... even though Demon's Souls' joyless masochism didn't find favour with me in the end, I find myself gripped by the enthusiasm in this thread and have one foot out the door right now.

I don't know if this helps but I didn't get on with Demon's Souls, I really tried but in the end I had to give up. However, I fucking LOVE Dark Souls - despite it not being any easier or anything. I suspect that the exploration has something to do with it, in Demon's Souls you had to select separate levels and do them over and over, while in Dark Souls it's one big giant world. So it feels a lot more like you're exploring a single actual world, which means that exploring is not only pretty immersive this time around, but also a lot more satisfying and progress a lot more tangible. At least for me.

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Hopefully I will be playing this later today and will let you know. I'm absolutely intrigued by this game like none beforehand, and can't wait to have a go on it.

To make life even harder I'm playing thief - keeping dex high to equip a bow and learning a few spells later on to keep a a few decent ranged options on hand, and relying on fast rolling to survive and backstabbing for damage. I think I've got some idea how to play* and enough patience to chip away, but until you try you don't really know what to expect.

*Despite an unhappy experince at the Expo which I blame on the lack of explanation of controls and the mozzarella pad provided.

I would strongly suggest against choosing a Thief. Only for the fact that the Dagger, which will be your main weapon, is about 6 inches long. Meaning you have to be able to smell the Undead's breath to get a lick in. You're gonna be making it much harder than it needs to be, especially of you're not used to Demon's/Dark Souls' combat.

Why not go Hunter? They have high Dex and come equipped with a Bow from the off. ;)

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Is it possible to do well with, say, bow and sword? Or are you best of specialising in one thing?

Looks like as long as you've got the stats, the weapons don't matter too much. I'm certainly planning on picking up a bow as soon as possible anyway, the Wanderer comes with fairly high dex which suits that anyway I guess?

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So I got out of the tutorial and to the campfire in the new place. I pottered around a bit and eventually ended up finding a lift.

I took the lift down to the Ruins of Londo and took my time killing the gibbering wrecks that stood around. I walked across a rickety wooden bridge over the water and saw something shimmering in the distance. It came closer and I realised it was a ghost! Its scythe like arms extended impossibly from it's body and it embraced me in a cold hug of death. Barely managing to escape, I retreated and topped up my health. I quickly pondered whether to retreat or stand my ground, deciding to fight on and see the result. I remembered I had some bombs in my inventory and threw one into the gaping maw of the ghost as she approached for another cuddle. I quickly dashed in and thrust at her, eventually killing her.

I carried on round the walkways and was ambushed by 3 ghosts. I was standing on a thin walkway and falling off would surely mean my doom, so I raised my shield and edged backwards slowly, coaxing them out one by one. After killing one, a shiny dropped on the floor. I picked it up and was delighted to find 'Jagged Ghost Blade'; a lovely 1hander with excellent damage and extra damage against ghosts. I saw another ghost ahead of me and charged in, all confidence and derring do. Two more ghosts appeared out of the floor and as I wheeled in panic to make a hasty retreat, a fourth appeared behind me...I was trapped between 4 of them with nowhere to go!

'clever girls...' I muttered, as their blade arms extended towards me

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So I went exploring after defeating the nasty on top of the church

I picked up the gargoyle shield not an axe which I'm sure I did

and have now found far far too many options:

The Woods

- maybe my best option but it's giving me the fear

Basin - huge bloody Hydra in the distant

- no thanks but a shortcut back to the Burg above

New Londo Ruins - ghosts

...run....

Valley Of The Drakes

- Got absolutely taken apart by a

crustaceous dragon

who I creeped up on thinking/hoping/praying was made of stone (yeh right), he literally moved an inch and slaughtered me, so we didn't go back up there.

Blighttown

- grim , reminds me of the valley of defilement (shudder).

I'm genuinely worried/concerned about my next move as I seemed to get destroyed whichever way I go...

I' at pretty much the same place although I haven't found the last mentioned area. Seems to be nowhere proper to go without getting taken apart really. Thinking I might try The Catacombs although I wasn't exactly doign amazing damage the last time I poked my head in there...

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Not sure whether this is a spoiler, but i've just some across an item called the 'Bottemless Box', which basically acts as a storage chest, which you can dump all your excess crap into, but those items will only be accessible/transferable via the campfire.

Pretty handy seeing as how your max. inventory is 1984 items! lol!

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Does kindling a bonfire for more flasky goodness cost anything? I'm too scared to do it - I don't see why from would allow you to double your health reserves without taking something from you in return...

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Before I run out the door to pick up a copy, which platform is best?

I played the original game so I'm used to using the DS3 but the 360 is my main platform of choice, how does it control on the 360 pad?

I've got both and prefer the PS3 controls (used to Demons Souls on a dual shock) , although the 360 controls are perfectly fine.

If you haven't played Demon's Souls it really doesn't matter

I have loads of work to do today and out tonight so no Dark Souls till tomorrow :facepalm:

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I would strongly suggest against choosing a Thief. Only for the fact that the Dagger, which will be your main weapon, is about 6 inches long. Meaning you have to be able to smell the Undead's breath to get a lick in. You're gonna be making it much harder than it needs to be, especially of you're not used to Demon's/Dark Souls' combat.

Why not go Hunter? They have high Dex and come equipped with a Bow from the off. ;)

I realise it's a hard option - since there seems to be a high premium on player skill in this game (compared to relying on stats), I was thinking that if I realise I have to be ultra cautious at all times rather than just very cautious it wouldn't be a bad thing. If it doesn't work out well however, I will happily re-roll as maybe a wanderer or hunter. I just don't want to be one of those heavily armoured sword and shield types, or rely on magic either for that matter.

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How do you even tell if you're a human or not? I'm a thief and my costume covers up most of my body. When I restart at a bonfire I assume I should no longer be human but my health bar doesnt seem any lower.

Also last night I noticed I had the number 1 in the big circle in the top left of the screen but after I died it was zero. What does that represent?

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It costs one humanity point.

I bloody knew it. Is the effect on the bonfire permanent? I probably won't bother unless I'm in a bind anyway.

I seem to be getting humanity randomly though. Sometimes when I kill an enemy the number increases in the corner. Also, one time one of those big rats dropped one of the expendable humanity items once. R@RE DROPS!

Undead Parish spoilers

Found a hidden dude around the top of the tower and set him free. He said he'd give me a reward, so that should be cool. His armour reminds me of Ostravia of Boletaria. What an excellent wimp he was.

Also, tried to fight that headless stone motherfucker with the giant staff and thunder magic in the basement. Got about half his health down with fire magic, but then ran out. :lol: I think I'll leave him for now. Actually, I could probably just run past him...

Why is it the moment you turn these games off, all you can do is think about them!

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Before I run out the door to pick up a copy, which platform is best?

I played the original game so I'm used to using the DS3 but the 360 is my main platform of choice, how does it control on the 360 pad?

I think it's fine on the 360 pad, despite my initial reservations. Only thing is I keep pressing X rather than RB to attack, which is rage inducing but non-pad specific anyway.

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I bought it on 360 because I like chatting to my friends while I play, even if we're playing separate games. So when I got a party invite last night, I was slightly annoyed when it dumped me straight out of the game and back to the main menu as I joined the party. And then it wouldn't let me play in online mode if I wanted to talk to my mates.

Annoying.

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One of the hints said it was forward+RB but that just does the slash-and-backflip thing.

It's a little awkward really. You need to reset the stick to centre and then push forward quickly and press RB/R1 at the same time. I often miss the input when I really need it.

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I bought it on 360 because I like chatting to my friends while I play, even if we're playing separate games. So when I got a party invite last night, I was slightly annoyed when it dumped me straight out of the game and back to the main menu as I joined the party. And then it wouldn't let me play in online mode if I wanted to talk to my mates.

Annoying.

Been covered a while back. Party chat has been disabled by the developers and MS.

No friendly conversations for you, as you delve into the nightmare!

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I went for a Thief and I turned out okay! (of course I traded in my dagger for a morning star, but that is besides the point :P )

One question: Can you sell / story stuff in this game? With a lack of any Stockpile Thomas around, I'm a little confused on that front.

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It's a little awkward really. You need to reset the stick to centre and then push forward quickly and press RB/R1 at the same time. I often miss the input when I really need it.

Yeah, the same as to do the jump attack with forward+RT/R2, right? If so, then the Wanderer doesn't seem to have a kick.

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Been covered a while back. Party chat has been disabled by the developers and MS.

Did they have a valid reason for that, do you know? Surely they should have just disabled the chat if players were actually playing together, rather than just being on their Xboxes at the same time.

Oh well. Offline play it is. :(

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