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That's what I've been doing, my FADCs are quick but I still can't get the MP to connect... I mean the FA is hitting right after the MP and I'm dashing out of it before the animation of the FA hit has finished. I can it hit the 2nd MP early and get nothing out, or hit it late and get a block but not once have I got it to connect. I don't usually have problems with tight links. Last night I hit loads of the st.MP FADC st.MP, varying my timing but I just could not get it. Fucking annoying. Someone want to run a clinic lobby and coach me?

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That's what I've been doing, my FADCs are quick but I still can't get the MP to connect... I mean the FA is hitting right after the MP and I'm dashing out of it before the animation of the FA hit has finished. I can it hit the 2nd MP early and get nothing out, or hit it late and get a block but not once have I got it to connect. I don't usually have problems with tight links. Last night I hit loads of the st.MP FADC st.MP, varying my timing but I just could not get it. Fucking annoying. Someone want to run a clinic lobby and coach me?

The window you have is obviously the hitstun from the first MP. In a normal link combo if the move doesn't come out you are pressing it too early, too late and it's blocked. The thing that makes it more complicated (and difficult) in this one is that you have to have recovered from the dash part of the FADC before the s.mp can come out so you can't waste many (any?) frames on the FADC, it has to be instant to give you enough of a window to connect another MP before the hitstun from the first expires.

You shouldn't see any of the focus attack animation it should just be a yellow flash and then into the dash.

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You shouldn't see any of the focus attack animation it should just be a yellow flash and then into the dash.

Thinking about it I'm confused now cos I thought that was what I was doing, I don't think I was letting the FA connect, just using it to cancel out of MP and dashing straight away to get out of the FA but without actually doing it I can't remember. Will have a bash tonight with a laptop to hand.
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Man, Yang's mix-ups are a joy to behold. I really want to try the twins out already.

I'm loving that top tier characters are more offence orientated (Yun, Yang, Makoto, Fei Long). It's just a shame Cammy has been changed as I can only imagine Sako's Cammy against Daigo and Mago's mains in AE.

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I just got back today and checked my post box. I have a package. Who could it be from? WHY ONLY BLOCKSTRINGIN' FunTime"Diago Killah"Dave! I got me a veritable trophy for my performance, and I'll be sure to try and get a couple of pics in some natural light tomorrow and post them up.

I said I'd figure out Ryu's trial 21. I lied. It's doing my head in, I've done all of his now apart from it and no. 24 (which looks OK). Not once have I even come fucking close to linking EX FA to standing medium punch. Can someone tell me how to do it? In words please. Ta.

I think you have to let the FA hit, then dash, then do the sMP during the FA hitstun. Imp will be along to confirm in a bit though.

Hi ho!

Is this the trial which is

s.MP FADC s.MP FADC s.MPxSRK ?

I think Carlito explained it right a moment ago when I was catch up scanning the thread, but I'm here to tell you about secret black arts to make the trial easier. Ridiculous as it might sound, adding in more moves makes it much easier. If you cancel the s.MPs into a Hadouken and FADC that, you have more time to hit the next s.MP than you would if you had just FADC'd the s.MP itself. So, the easier way is

s.MPxHadouken FADC s.MPxHadouken FADC s.MPxSRK

24 is a an actual bastard as well, since the Hadouken FADC Ultra 2 has very tight timing, so you might want to do c.MKxHadouken FADC SRK FADC (wait a sec) Ultra 2.

carlito, seriously, what do I do? Can I de-friend? Is that cool?

I'd say yeah. If he ever asks, say your list was full and you needed to get rid of some dead weight for more important random select friends. I wasn't impressed with his 'random is so bad to me attitude either'. The down backin' bastard.

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I just got back today and checked my post box. I have a package. Who could it be from? WHY ONLY BLOCKSTRINGIN' FunTime"Diago Killah"Dave! I got me a veritable trophy for my performance, and I'll be sure to try and get a couple of pics in some natural light tomorrow and post some pics.

Me too! It is now my official Favourite Thing Ever next to the nudie pic of Carlito's mum I bought off of him a while back. Truly excellent stuff.

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Played a few games with Carlito earlier GGS

Hope to get in a few more with the rest of the rllmukers.

That other dude in the lobby was sick no?

TKO RIMZ. Absolute monster, I was having a bit of luck against his Viper with my Sakura then he switched to Bison and it was all over. Neither Cammy or Sakura has a hope against him and my Bison is much worse than his so it feels like I am skanking it if I pick him and sneak a round.

Sorry I played a bit dry against you, I had been in that lobby with him and British Justice (who is also pretty handy) for ages so was still shellshocked into anti fun mode.

I've got a great Guy comeback from RIMZ saved that I might pop up here.

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Me too! It is now my official Favourite Thing Ever next to the nudie pic of Carlito's mum I bought off of him a while back. Truly excellent stuff.

Opps ignore the pm I sent I should have checked the thread first.

Zoo happy they arrived and apologies for the delay. They turned out better than expected, you both deserved them.

If everyone practices like jiro then you too could win a Funtime Dave prize.

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Oh man, I'm a crazy fool. Thanks Carlito, you were right.

Here's the deal - I'm both less and more stupid than I thought. Even though the combo text list the moves as EX Focus Cancel I'd got it in my head to let the FA hit. That's the stupid bit. The less stupid bit was that I was using the dash to recover from the FA quicker than you would normally so it looked like I had plenty of time to land a hit but I reckon it was a 0 frame link, e.g. I'd always get a block or no move no chance for a hit. The game confuses things (or just me) by registering the FA hit as part of the combo, I mean the 'EX Focus Cancel' text goes red if you do a Focus Attack or a FADC. I'm kind of hung up on trying to do stuff with minimal button presses at the moment, so I'm going with MP followed almost instantly with towards, then towards + MP + MK, which works for me if I'm quick enough and comes out v. fast.

Anyway, yeah I'm stupid but I can do it now, just need to bring it together in the trial. So thanks again Carlito and also imp - thanks for the advice for 24, it doesn't seem to bad but I've not linked the whole thing yet.

edit: What's my prize then Mr, Funtime Dave? I'm practising really hard.

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That other dude in the lobby was sick no?

TKO RIMZ. Absolute monster, I was having a bit of luck against his Viper with my Sakura then he switched to Bison and it was all over. Neither Cammy or Sakura has a hope against him and my Bison is much worse than his so it feels like I am skanking it if I pick him and sneak a round.

Sorry I played a bit dry against you, I had been in that lobby with him and British Justice (who is also pretty handy) for ages so was still shellshocked into anti fun mode.

I've got a great Guy comeback from RIMZ saved that I might pop up here.

Yeah, he was good. You did ok in the one match i watched, Bison mirror match.

I struggled big time with Cammy, even against Viper.

I didn't even play his Bison :unsure:

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sarge just posted famitsu info abotu SSF43DE in the 3DS thread - can play online choosing either quick match, custom match, or friend match (using friend codes but we don't know if those are game-specific or not), and do in-person multiplayer with other people using just one cart, or set arcade fight request mode to pick up either internet or local challengers... sounds pretty awesome so far.

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Has anyone been watching those Sako training videos? As dull as it might seem to watch someone in training mode, when they have execution like his it's different, particularly when you can see him trying things to see if they're possible and occasionally nailing something ridiculous.

Solar plexus strike - > close standing MK - > EX hadouken - > Ultra 1 with Ryu is just lovely.

The comments say it's been listed on SRK before or whatever so I'm late, but it was new to me and quite a cool way to set up EX fireball into Ultra, and to get an Ultra 1 set up off solar plexus strike only using one block of meter.

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Thank you for humouring me. I will take what I can get.

It's such a lovely juggle but I'm so inconsistent at it. I hit it going into the corner a few times and now I can't remember if I've only done it there.

On re-watching the video of Uryo, he actually hits the first two hits of Otoshi and then chooses to leave the third so that they land in the corner for the meaty fireball set up. If he did the third hit he'd end up cornering himself.

I've done the version I mentioned before a few times on Ryu in training, and the Otoshi only seems to work if you catch his feet by doing it as early as possible on his way down from the DP. I will hit training again later on and try to get it down because it's one of those lovely combos that's stylish before anything else, and they're the best.

Here is Uryo's fucking monstrous Sakura:

No resets either, just meaty tatsu/fireball and lots of ridiculous combos. Amazing. He does the tatsu into DP into Otoshi juggle on the first Viper player.

I must start incorporating that meaty fireball in the corner set up as well; it looks great.

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I almost picked up MK vs. DC the other day but something stopped me. It was as if a voice cried out and said "It'll be shite and you know it". I've got too many fighting games nowadays and not enough time. BlazBlue hasn't been out the box since Christmas. Every time I see the Tatsunoko friend code in my signature I feel ashamed of myself - I keep it there as a reminder of my fickleness. Tekken, Battle Fantasia (oh yeah), Soulcalibur, Dead or Alive, KoF not to mention the hordes of XBLive stuff. God I've gone and depressed myself now. So many games and all I've got is this terrible feeling of emptiness... maybe Marvel vs. Capcom 3 will fill it.

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I own a good chunk of the 360's beat'em up library, but I drew the line at Battle Fantasia. I played it, wanted to like it but just hated it.

MK vs DC I bought for £19.99, played it for a few days, then traded it to CEX for £26. It was like Blockbuster giving me six quid to rent one of their games. Good stuff.

It was fun for about an hour Jiro, as you'd expect. Joker's gun fatality is great, The Flash is horribly broken, there are infinites abound and the online is full of serious dickheads. Also the gameplay still feels like MK: Deadly Alliance and as such is clunky, unresponsive, full of canned animations that have little to do with your inputs and has a combo system that allows for no creativity of experimentation whatsoever.

MK9 is looking better than it in every conceivable way, so I'll be getting that.

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i said i wouldn't buy blazblue 2, and then i did, and i've played it for half an hour. i'm not getting MVC3 unless the rllmuk thread for it somehow exceeds 300 pages in the next few months. i'm not getting MK9 unless someone builds both a robot and a time machine and sends the robot back in time to teach nine year old me how to do fatalities before i come to hate the game forever for being seemingly impossible.

actually, i think that might serve as a useful filter for all games from now on. the 300 page thread thing, not the robot back in time thing.

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I've seen plenty of MvC3 in the last few weeks and really, if you didn't get on with MvC2, there's nothing here to change that. I find the system just too weird, like some uncanny valley street fighter (WHY IS CHUN DOING LEGS IN THE AIR ARGH). I will not be buying it unless all youse cunts jump ship in which case I will have no choice.

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