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They are clearly mocking me. I'm just having a little dig back. Not having a go at them are you? Didn't think so.

Have you ever considered that you might have a persecution complex? As it appears that you think everyone is mocking you, ironically they mostly are, but not for the reasons you think.

Probably says a great deal about the person reading it.

This is why people are mocking you, because of what your posts say about you.

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Before anybody says anything about the National Anthem commenting on the media and social networking...........

...........I think social networking is all a huge waste of time, its utterly mindless and totally pointless. Full of people posting random bollocks, people who've got far too much time on their hands. Many of these people haven't even developed proper social skills, they'll blindly believe anything as if they're simple, and explode at anything they even remotely disagree with. I enjoy just going on stuff like Twitter to wind these idiots up. I laugh at their reactions. I find it interesting, just how strangely weird some people are.

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Before anybody says anything about the National Anthem commenting on the media and social networking...........

...........I think social networking is all a huge waste of time, its utterly mindless and totally pointless. Full of people posting random bollocks, people who've got far too much time on their hands. Many of these people haven't even developed proper social skills, they'll blindly believe anything as if they're simple, and explode at anything they even remotely disagree with. I enjoy just going on stuff like Twitter to wind these idiots up. I laugh at their reactions. I find it interesting, just how strangely weird some people are.

I would just like to point out that the above views are not my own. They're the general gist of Charlie Brooker's views, taken from a few interviews with him that i've read.

He's actually admitted he goes on Twitter and stuff, and purposefully winds people up. People he clearly deems himself to be above. He then laughs at their reactions and how odd they are. Is that not called "trolling" and exactly what you're accusing me of doing?

Don't forget he also thinks Twitter is a mindless waste of time, and has a dig at people who use. Oh hold on, he uses it though. Yeah, that's not hypocritical at all.

Oh hold on, its obviously some really witty artistic statement he's making. Yeah, that's it.

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Have you ever considered that you might have a persecution complex? As it appears that you think everyone is mocking you, ironically they mostly are, but not for the reasons you think.

This is why people are mocking you, because of what your posts say about you.

Have you ever considered, that i really couldn't give 2 shits what some random internet avenger thinks about me?

I think the main problem that i've encountered whilst posting on this forum is one Charlie Brooker mentions in an interview. Its something he gets spot on. When posting on the net certain people suddenly lose their social skills, assuming they have any in the first place that is.

Someone wouldn't just jog up to somebody in real life, and start insulting or rubbishing them at the drop of a hat would they? No, that person would get knocked spark out. Seems to be ok on here to do that though, but only for certain people. Not figured out why yet. Bum chums? Post count? Herd mentality? Who knows? It all seems a bit random.

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Have you ever considered, that i really couldn't give 2 shits what some random internet avenger thinks about me?

I think the main problem that i've encountered whilst posting on this forum is one Charlie Brooker mentions in an interview. Its something he gets spot on. When posting on the net certain people suddenly lose their social skills, assuming they have any in the first place that is.

Someone wouldn't just jog up to somebody in real life, and start insulting or rubbishing them at the drop of a hat would they? No, that person would get knocked spark out. Seems to be ok on here to do that though, but only for certain people. Not figured out why yet. Bum chums? Post count? Herd mentality? Who knows? It all seems a bit random.

Can you really not see the irony in what you've posted and why that is utterly hilarious?

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Like you were looking down on them or something?

Can you really not see the irony in what you've posted and why that is utterly hilarious?

Firstly, i wasn't looking down on anybody. The post in question was the gist of Charlie Brooker's own views taken from interviews. Just backing up a point i'd made. I agree with Brooker that Twitter and stuff is pointless bollocks, so i don't use it. I don't like hypocrites, i like things to be fair and straight down the line. If other people enjoy it and get something out of it though, then great.

I don't understand your other comment. I've only started posting on the net/here recently, out of curiosity more than anything else. It all seems really random. Some people can pretty much get away with saying what they like, others can openly insult people, for some reason this seems ok. At the same time i can post my views on something, i'm not insulting folk, i'm not acting like a dick, and people throw a shit fit and call me a twat, tell me to fuck off etc. One youth even went nuts at me for asking if Mario Kart 7 had a mission mode. Its more than a little bit odd.

For example, on this thread, people before me mentioned 1984 and BNW. Nothing. I mentioned them and people took it as i'm an elitist, who's talking down to them and trying to make them look daft, even when i make it clear i'm not at all like that. Someone then later makes a post detailing the ins and outs of a book written by an intellectual, in a very "look how fucking clever i am" type way, and name drops a few great philosophers and its suddenly a cracking post Gromit. Again, bit odd.

I see 1984 as a love story, and say its down to how the reader interprets it. I'm in the wrong. People have a pop without really thinking what i'm saying through. Someone else says the same. Nothing.

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That must be why you've made 25 posts in this thread responding to people calling you out on your stupidity.

I swear you've only posted about twice in this thread. Both times just to insult me. On the other hand i've posted a fair bit because people were asking me questions, and i was replying, and discussing various things. Ya know, like you're supposed to do on a forum. Did it without insulting anybody too. Well not until Mr Mongoloid a few posts up.

Is this were i'm supposed to call you The Grand PissAnt or something, and you reply with your rapier like internet warrior wit, and then i go off physically and emotionally destroyed by you, my life changed forever more?

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This is painful. Hurry up episode three!

Here's a tip youth. If you don't start chucking insults about, when somebody is clearly seriously discussing something, then this doesn't happen. If you don't agree with somebody, how about intelligently discussing why not, or just leaving it.

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There was a program on bbc 2 a while ago where they tried to power a house with cycliepower. They had 80 people continously cycling and they just about managed it, albeit at one point the draw was too much and everything failed. They replicated a standard detached house with 2 adults and 2 kids. So it's not vastly out of the realms of possibility. Arguably the cycling could be extrapolated as a visual metaphor for the 10% idea/rat race/ daily grind.

This is why we have megadonts now.

Anyway, this Black Mirror? It was like ITV's The Cube, 1 VS 100, Prop Glider, The Fades, Grange Hill and Network all in one. Graphics in the future will be shit, but our bedroom porn screens will be massive. It was pretty unrealistic though, who the fuck skips actual porn?

I also loved Bing, when he was talking to Abi about giving her the credits saying this:

''It's stuff, it's all just...stuff''

That was another powerful bit.

Brooker confirmed for stalking Smitty in the 'Riots' thread :)

Because they've become so obsessed with screens, and so catered for, that they don't exercise anymore. So it solves two problems with one stone - pedal for fitness and to power all those screens they've become obsessed with.

This is what I had a little trouble with, the guy pedalling-like-fuck for his porn and fatty-prodding comedy looked well out of shape.

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Just out of interest, does anyone have an example from 15 Million Merits of a totalitarian state oppressing its people?

I can only think of one vague one, which is where you're asked to choose to drink a compliancy drug in order to enter a competition. And I suppose making fat people clean up after everyone else. But aside from that it seems to be an entirely voluntary dystopia

(Sorry. I haven't read the thread and I've just noticed all the posts above mine are part of an argument. Feel free to ignore this and carry on!)

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From the back of 2 of my copies of 1984 -

"Winston finds hope when he falls in love with Julia".

"A forbidden love affair".

From the trailer for the 1984 film (which is brilliant, The National Anthem of Oceania is fucking incredible, one of my favourite pieces of music) -

"One man and one woman dare to love"

From the back of the film -

"A forbidden love affair".

Apparently there are also numerous papers, written by various intellectuals, on Winston's love for Julia and how its an integral part of the books narrative and meaning.

Just thought i'd post that for the comedy geniuses and supposed intellectuals, that took the piss and told me i was thick as shit, for posting my views on one of my favourite books and films.

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Just out of interest, does anyone have an example from 15 Million Merits of a totalitarian state oppressing its people?

I can only think of one vague one, which is where you're asked to choose to drink a compliancy drug in order to enter a competition. And I suppose making fat people clean up after everyone else. But aside from that it seems to be an entirely voluntary dystopia

(Sorry. I haven't read the thread and I've just noticed all the posts above mine are part of an argument. Feel free to ignore this and carry on!)

Isn't the compliance drink just taking the piss out of people who enter the X-Factor etc and will seemingly do anything they're told to in order to achieve fame? Its just bashing the X-Factor.

Its fashionable to do so, everyone knows its "fake music". Its not "real music". Yeah, there's chords and sound and shit, but that doesn't really count. How could it, its popular, makes money, and more than 17 people like it. And its horribly manufactured. Its not as if every single fucking band on the planet manufactures and maintains their own image. Anyway, if you don't like !ShItWaNk! the trending electro/funk/shed/fusion band, who are just so vital right now, and for the next week and a half, then you're a total shuttlecock, who knows absolutely fuck all about anything.

I see the whole show as just Charlie Brooker basically saying "look at all these mindless twats, enjoying their twatish entertainment". He's taking the piss out of people like us, who are are sat in front of a screen pointlessly wasting our time away posting on here. He's especially ripping the piss out of the people who sit clicking the + and - buttons.

I think he'd shit himself laughing if he saw people on here analysing 15 Million Credits, and reading it as a realistic vision of a possible future. For fuck's sake, people ride exercise bikes for a living, how can anybody take that seriously?!?!

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Well yeah it's very firmly a TV/new media-centric satire. But I thought it was quite an original approach to a dystopian view of the future; there's not a single occasion where The Authorities brutally clamp down on anybody bucking the trend, everybody's living in a self-imposed hell and absolutely fucking loving it. Even Bing's fight against the system only carries momentum until he gets a bigger room with less adverts.

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