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They showed a lengthy rendered video with the express and sole purpose of showing off its graphical prowess. We have a pretty good idea of its power, and it isn't exactly overwhelming.

But then Reggie is interviewed and won't say how powerful it will be... I have a feeling this system is still a PC dev kit and the console under the TV won't be the finished product either; Nintendo probably have no real idea yet at how powerful it'll be and they certainly won't be bragging about an unfinished product.

Nintendo never blab about anything.

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ras el hanout

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They showed a lengthy rendered video with the express and sole purpose of showing off its graphical prowess. We have a pretty good idea of its power, and it isn't exactly overwhelming.

No they showed off a video to show the type of games it will play host to.

Most of the third party games will look like Ps3/360 games. What in the name of FUCK did you expect. You CANNOT be so retarded that you thought third party devs would suddenly drop the 100million PS3/360 owners and plough their resources into the Wii U with its installed userbase of none. I mean you can type, you must have some function up there. I refuse to believe you are as disabled as you are pretending to be.

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But no one knows the specs of this thing yet, everyone just assumes it won't stand the test of time against Microsoft/Sony. Of course it's a possibility, but Nintendo haven't given specs and it's still doomed from this perspective for some bizarre reason: perhaps because they opted to showcase their new control method instead. There's nothing saying that it won't have this fancy new controller and awesome specs, just the assumption that with Nintendo, it's one or the other.

I suppose there is that. The fact they showcased the controller only and not the console may imply that they're possibly still hammering in more power into the damn thing.

It just lowers the tone a bit when they say "hey, it only took us a completely new console to finally be able to play current generation games."

But like I said, maybe they can add soemthing to them to make them stand out from the other versions.

It's just a bit of a mixed feeling really. Happy but at the same time underwhelmed. I'd almost rather that they not have bothered at all until they actually had something other than demos to show off the various ways to use the new controller.

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No they showed off a video to show the type of games it will play host to.

Most of the third party games will look like Ps3/360 games. What in the name of FUCK did you expect. You CANNOT be so retarded that you thought third party devs would suddenly drop the 100million PS3/360 owners and plough their resources into the Wii U with its installed userbase of none. I mean you can type, you must have some function up there. I refuse to believe you are as disabled as you are pretending to be.

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The video in question was the bird/fish one.

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No they showed off a video to show the type of games it will play host to.

Most of the third party games will look like Ps3/360 games. What in the name of FUCK did you expect. You CANNOT be so retarded that you thought third party devs would suddenly drop the 100million PS3/360 owners and plough their resources into the Wii U with its installed userbase of none. I mean you can type, you must have some function up there. I refuse to believe you are as disabled as you are pretending to be.

Thing is, when Nintendo shows renders of what might come, they are hailed. When anyone else does it, they are scum. It was fucking weird watching the conference with that happening.

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Nintendo really just did a weird showcase I guess.

"Here's a new console... but we're not even going to mention the console part."

"Here's the games it'll play host to from third parties... they're all ports of games coming out this year on other platforms."

"Here's the controller and how you use it... but we're not saying if you can use more than one at a time."

"Here's a load of controller demos... but they're not from any games currently in production."

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Weird it may be but there's one thing for sure, Nintendo have got people talking this E3.

Sony did that in 2006 and it didn't work out too well... ;)

Anyhoo, at least the 3DS stuff was good, and there's at least one game coming on the Wii this year.

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ras el hanout

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Thing is, when Nintendo shows renders of what might come, they are hailed. When anyone else does it, they are scum. It was fucking weird watching the conference with that happening.

Oh my fucking god.

Others are slated for it because they show more than what the system can actually do. You can't be saying Nintendo should be hauled over the coals for showing less than its system can do. Because that would make you a blunt trauma victim or something.

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Nintendo really just did a weird showcase I guess.

"Here's a new console... but we're not even going to mention the console part."

"Here's the games it'll play host to from third parties... they're all ports of games coming out this year on other platforms."

"Here's the controller and how you use it... but we're not saying if you can use more than one at a time."

"Here's a load of controller demos... but they're not from any games currently in production."

It's not really that odd - it's what they did for the DS and to a lesser extent the Wii. Some of of those demos will become games. The "Wii-style" game series will look a bit more shiny but not vastly different from the Wii, because that audience doesn't care and Nintendo will want to maintain a consistent brand. Hardcore games will look like the current consoles -- the key will be if they are at higher res and better framerate, indicating they'll pull away.

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Comparing it with other consoles is all well and good, but I feel the tablet controller does open up a whole bunch of other functionality which is better compared to other tablets. If you could download Apps you could use it as an eBook reader around the house, and well, anything you can use an iPad for (minus GPS stuff).

I wonder if their internet service is progressive enough to provide this sort of functionality, I feel most people were comparing it to Live or PSN.

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I'm sure Nintendo will do a fantastic job of marketing wiiu; but it's definitely going to be a harder sell and concept than the wii's controllers.

It's a much more exclusive concept than inclusive: play games while someone else watches TV in the same room, your own personal screen etc.

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Didn't even click that Nintendo's choice of name "Wii U" clashes horribily (and probably confusingly to casual gamers buying one in Xmas 2012) with the Wii uDraw shiity tack on.

By the way - as well as the ties with Gamecube/GBA link this console also goes back to that old floor demo Nintendo showed one year where you walked over a pond/bridge to get to their E3 booths and the water interacted and fish reacted. Signs that the Wii U controller will be used as a floor display in today's presentation. Its great seeing old concepts rear their head in the future! (Stage Debut/Mii's being another)

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For me it's kinda this. I like the idea of the console and that it has enough performance to adequately (seemingly) cope with the titles that everyone are bemoaning that the Wii is at the moment currently lacking.

But, what, the console has to last 5-6 years with that hardware. If sony and microsoft haven't made some inroads with a new hardware upgrade by that point I'll be mightily surprised. At which point, if their specs are higher than nintendo's machine, then you're faced with the same situation as the wii was in originally.

That said the console/controller is at least interesting enough to see where it'll lead to differentiate some of the 3rd party games likea s someone suggested earlier, the detective mode for Arkham City.

Edit: What a fairly pessimistic mind I have. All the best to them really.

I see where you're coming from, but don't think it'll be as big an issue as some think. I personally don't expect to see a new machine from Sony/Microsoft in the next couple of years. I think the hardware step-ups are going to be incrementally smaller, less frequent and more difficult to sell to the general public. Let's face it, the extra power afforded has traditionally meant that the graphics are the main thing to improve and I don't believe that we're going to see something at the next E3 or two which is *that* much of a leap that's it's going to make people want that new hardware (unless it's GTA or CoD-related). New hardware is going to have to come with something novel (or gimmicky, dare I say).

Microsoft are clearly trying to wring a bit more out of the 360 via Kinect and it looks like Sony see the PS3 having legs for a while yet.

So, I think we're going to see hardware parity for a little while, with the big releases also on WII U. This will give Nintendo a chance to re-establish their machine as a worthwhile hardcore platform, after taking their eye off that market (or taking them for granted) for a generation.

I don't see the big issue with the actual hardware - more powerful than 360 with BluRay. I think they've positioned themselves decently.

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ras el hanout

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Give that Halo 4 was being touted as "the dawn of a new trilogy for Xbox 360", I'd expect it to be around for a fair while longer.

And kinect. But ms have just started making money on the 360, launched kinect with a $500,000,000 marketing budget. If that doesn't suggest they're about to launch a new console I don't know what does.

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Well if Microsoft and Sony are going to be sticking to their current consoles for years to come, why are nintendo being so amazingly cagey about the specifications?

Sony have a ten year plan with the PS3, and may well not have the money or stomach for another generation so soon, and Microsoft have put alot of eggs into the kinnect basket, but this move by nintendo will certainly damage the status quo of the traditional multi-format 50/50 share between microsoft and sony, and I really don't think they'd be stupid enough to just watch nintendo eat away their market share and not do anything.

Microsoft are by far the most likely to decide to leave the 360/kinnect market to the traditional casuals market (as already clear from the rather limited, wii-orientated software) and then begin another hardcore grab with a new console. Certainly, microsoft are already heavily invested in the tablet computer sector, and the ipad-esque capabilities of the Wii U is a direction that could kill a few birds in one for them.

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And kinect.

Maybe by 2015 they'll have worked out how to do a Kinect game that isn't on rails.

Well if Microsoft and Sony are going to be sticking to their current consoles for years to come, why are nintendo being so amazingly cagey about the specifications?

When was the last time you heard Nintendo going into detail about specifications?

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